Despite your feelings about Hillary as a candidate: how do you rate her as First Lady?

[book_worm]

How do you rate Mrs. Clinton as First Lady of the land?

[saracat]

1. The fact that I think she was a "good" first Lady has no bearing on what she would be as President.

I do not see the jobs as "related'.Just saying.

[againes654]

2. From what I have heard

in an article posted here (I will try to find it) she demanded that Bill give her more attention that the actual VP. That doesn't seem to be very admirable IMO

[aquart]

5. You do know that the VEEP has only two actual responsibilities?

To assume power when the president croaks and to preside over the Senate? How much attention does that require?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Do you know that the first lady has only no actual responsibilities?

Not that I know what this Hillary vs. Gore thing is about.

[againes654]

12. So the First Lady is more important?

The VP can't do any more than that?

[aquart]

30. Is one's wife more important than one's Veep?

Golly, that's a tough one.

The problem here is that people are still aghast that a woman married to a President could be bright enough to give him sensible advice.

That Gore was promised one thing going in and things worked out somewhat differently shouldn't be a big surprise to anyone. The Clinton administration was under assault from day one. If I wanted to spin the events (way too easy), I could say that Clinton did a kindness to Gore in giving him tasks that kept him somewhat separate from the endlessly attacked Clinton administration. Gore walked out of the White House completely clean. He was so clean they had to portray him as boring and wooden until they finally came up with the internet idiocy.

BTW, Woodward is an adulterous man who was smacked around pretty hard by the wife he cheated on. It would be wrong to imagine that he might take that injury out on another cheated-on wife.

[cali]

8. OMG

You really are deranged on the subject of Clinton. Seek help.

[againes654]

13. Ya know Cali

If what I posted is incorrect, you could tell me that. If I am wrong, then I can admit that. I know I read that, but I can't seem to find it now.

Thanks for your diagnoses, you opinion means so much to me.

[cali]

16. I apologize

my comment was out of line. And I'm glad you called me on it.

[againes654]

17. Ok,

but now I wonder if you are being sarcastic? I hope not. I apologize if I was wrong. :pals:

[cali]

18. no. not a bit sarcastic.

I was wrong. I appreciate your confronting me about it. It was a nasty thing to say. And I thank you for accepting my apology.

[againes654]

19. Well I thank you for that

not many can always have such a mature reaction. BTW if I do ever post anything incorrect (not just opinion) tell me. I don't want to promote false information about anyone.

[yardwork]

28. Yeah, and we know that the media never misrepresented the Clintons.

/sarcasm.

I can't believe that anybody believes anything they've read about the Clintons in the media. Some article (no link, I noticed) claiming that she was a selfish bitch really has no credibility without some kind of objective proof.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. I think she did an excellent job at being a spouse of a President.

And Socks gave an excellent performance as a presidential cat.

[aquart]

6. Not a bit sexist, no, indeed.

None of that stuff here. Uppity woman. How dare she?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. So you're saying she wasn't married to Bill Clinton?

I'm trying to figure out what you're talking about.

[aquart]

24. Disingenuous, much?

[aquart]

4. What crap is this?

Women should stay in their appropriate places? HOW DARE SHE RUN FOR PRESIDENT AS A TWO-TERM SENATOR OF A MAJOR ELECTORAL STATE!!! She was a First Lady! A mere wife!

[book_worm]

7. huh?

Boy you are assuming a lot from this poll. It's just asking for thoughts on how she did her job as first lady. I don't see anyplace it mentions "HOW DARE SHE RUN FOR PRESIDENT AS A TWO TERM SENATOR OF A MAJOR ELECTOAL STATE!!! She was a First Lady! A mere wife!" please take some pills and calm down.

[adigal]

26. She was a one term, and a couple of days Senator

when she declared. And we haven't seen her too much in NY since then.

Thanks, Hillary!! Plus, she is the only Dem Giuliani will beat for the presidency.

[Rhythm and Blue]

11. She did an absolutely wonderful job of being married to a President,

and successfully fulfilled her no responsibilities.

[blondeatlast]

15. The extreme talent of doing no job well is vastly underrrated in this culture.

Mrs. Clinton excellend beyond all recent holders of that position.
And for those who can't get it--I'm actually praising her very highly.

[tabasco]

14. Putting her in charge of health care reform was a disaster.

That was her major goal as First Lady and she failed miserably.

[yardwork]

29. She joins a prestigious line of other "miserable failures" in that attempt.

Heck, even Nixon couldn't get national healthcare past the interest groups. The Clinton plan was defeated by a barrage of public relations propaganda unleashed by the insurance companies and their allies (who include most of the other industries in the world, many of which the insurance companies more or less own).

[BuyingThyme]

20. She kicked ass. She dared to be a person instead of a lady.

[emilyg]

21. Amen.

[TahitiNut]

22. Many of us who actually remember Eleanor Roosevelt weren't so easily impressed.

:shrug:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. Compared to who? Eleanor Roosevelt? Dolly Madison? Eva Peron?

[adigal]

25. She was a huge distraction

So much of his presidency became about defending her: the health care debacle, Whitewater, every time I turned around, someone was going after her, and she was always tangling with them. I think President Clinton would have gotten a lot more done if she had toned it down a bit. I mean, it wasn't all about her - it was supposed to be about the country.

She is the same now - from the day she declard, "I'm in it to win!" All about Hillary, rather than, "I'm in it for all of us!!" Typical Hillary.

[yardwork]

27. Who voted failure? How can one "fail" as a First Lady, anyway?

Sheesh.

Personally, the mere idea of a First Lady is a quaint, out-moded, sexist, and ridiculous idea. Given those parameters, I think that HRC did an excellent job.

I can't imagine what she could have done to rate "failure." Too many bad hair days? Didn't serve the right brand of tea? Come on.