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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:17 PM
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On Armenian Genocide, Bush caught in another lie and hypocrisy
Friday, October 13, 2006

State of Denial

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Meantime, though, it's worth reflecting for a moment on the official stance of the United States government with respect to the Armenian genocide. If the statute being considered in France has debatable value, what are we to make of the official American position, which continues to resist using the actual term "genocide" to describe the liquidation of 1.5 million lives between 1915 and 1917. In a letter sent on 19 February 2000 to Edgar Hagopian and Vasken Setrakian of the Armenian National Committee of America, candidate George W. Bush offered the following uncontroversial observations, which he topped off with a simple pledge:

The twentieth century was marred by wars of unimaginable brutality, mass murder and genocide. History records that the Armenians were the first people of the last century to have endured these cruelties. The Armenians were subjected to a genocidal campaign that defies comprehension and commands all decent people to remember and acknowledge the facts and lessons of an awful crime in a century of bloody crimes against humanity. If elected President, I would ensure that our nation properly recognizes the tragic suffering of the Armenian people.

After his ascent to office, however, Bush carried on in the tradition of his predecessor, who had also -- after campaigning in 1992 on a similar pledge -- resorted to post-election vague phrases intended not to dismay the Turkish government. It has been 25 years now since an American president used the word "genocide" to describe the 1.5 million Armenian deaths that occurred between 1915-1917. Ronald Reagan was the last -- and in fact the only one ever -- to do so, which he did quite clearly on 22 April 1981. Every April 24, the date on which Armenians mark the commencement of the genocide, Bush has spoken of the "tragedy," the "calamity" of these "mass killings"; he has mourned the "bitter fate" and celebrated the "indomitable will" of the Armenian people. But he has carefully refused to use the proper words -- that is, the proper word -- on those days or any others.

I used to think this cowardice was merely strategic, a style of discourse calculated not to offend an important military and economic ally. I'm now convinced, though, that the vague annual rituals surrounding the Armenian "tragedy" are more than that. Genocide is in fact a legal category, with unmistakable implications for states who choose to invoke the term; by virtue of the 1948 Convention on Genocide (not ratified by the US until the mid-1980s), signatories are obliged to act to "prevent and suppress" acts of genocide. Clearly, to call the slaughter of Armenians "genocide" does nothing to alter the history of that period. The use of the term, however, does serve perhaps as a reminder that the United States knew about the events in eastern Anatolia as they were occurring -- they were widely and graphically discussed in the pages of the New York Times, for example -- and chose to remain silent. Woodrow Wilson's Secretary of State Robert Lansing even expressed his view at the time that the Ottoman policies were "more or less justifiable" given the "disloyalty" of Armenians within the realm. He did note, almost off-handedly, that the harsh treatment of the Armenian people might jeopardize the "good feeling" that existed between the Ottoman rulers and the United States.

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FLASHBACK: In 2000, Candidate Bush Called Armenian Massacre A ‘Genocidal Campaign’

Opinion Daily

The diplomat who cracked

An interview with former U.S. ambassador to Armenia John Evans, who lost his job after referring to the Armenian genocide as “genocide.”

By Matt Welch
April 24, 2007
John Marshall Evans, a career U.S. diplomat with extensive experience in Central and Eastern Europe, was sworn in as ambassador to Armenia in August 2004. In February 2005, Evans made a trip to California, the capital state of the Armenian diaspora. At three different meetings with Armenian-American groups, when asked about Washington's lack of official recognition of the 1915-23 Armenian genocide as a "genocide," Evans said some variation of the following: "I will today call it the Armenian Genocide."

Since this deviated from State Department guidelines, Evans was eventually asked to resign. Now the mild-mannered foreign service veteran is preparing a book about his "intellectual journey" that led him "rock the boat" of U.S. policy.

I caught up with Evans this March, a few days after he gave the keynote speech explaining his dissent to the second annual banquet for USC's Institute of Armenian Studies. The following is an edited transcript of our conversation.

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06/07/2006

Kerry and Kennedy Press Rice to Explain U.S. Ambassador to Armenia’s Dismissal

Today Senator John Kerry (D-Mass.) and Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) sent a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, requesting an explanation for the early dismissal of John Evans, U.S. Ambassador to Armenia.

Ambassador Evans reportedly used the term “genocide” early last year, in describing the atrocities inflicted on the Armenian people in 1915. Several American officials have used the same terminology in the past; however the Turkish government was sharply critical of the remarks.

“If history has taught us anything, it’s that when we see it we must call genocide by its name. There is no doubt about the genocide of 1.5 million Armenian men, women and children, and the United States government should be straight about this piece of world history. It’s an outrage that a respected lifelong diplomat would be fired simply for speaking the truth. In 1990 I fought alongside Senator Dole to designate April 24 as a national day of remembrance so we could learn from this dark period and honor the memories of those Armenians who suffered,” said John Kerry. “The Ambassador and his career should not be made a scapegoat for this administration’s refusal to face the facts and strengthen the ties between our countries.”

Senator Kennedy said, “What happened in Armenia was genocide. No one should lose their job for stating the plain truth.”

Below is a copy of the letter:

June 5, 2006

The Honorable Condoleezza Rice

Secretary

United States Department of State

2201 C Street, NW

Washington, DC 20520

Dear Secretary Rice,

We are writing to convey our disappointment over the apparent dismissal of the United States Ambassador to Armenia, John Evans. It is our understanding that Ambassador Evans will be leaving his post early, reportedly as a result of comments he made early last year.

In an exchange with Armenian American groups in February 2005 Ambassador Evans used the word “genocide” to describe the horrific atrocities that were committed against the Armenian people in 1915. We believe, and the reports from our diplomats at that time, make clear that genocide accurately described these events. Henry Morgenthau, then our Ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, described these actions as a “campaign of race extermination.” Several U.S. officials, including President Reagan, have used the term “genocide” to describe what happened to the Armenian people.

Allegedly the Government of Turkey was dismayed by Ambassador Evans’ remarks and expressed this to the U.S. government. We would like clarification as soon as possible about Ambassador Evans’ premature dismissal after 35 years of exemplary service to the United States Government. We look forward to hearing from you on this important matter.

Sincerely,

Edward M. Kennedy

John F. Kerry




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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:43 PM
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1. Kick! n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:55 PM
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2. Thanks
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 06:58 PM
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3. Son of Journalist Convicted in Turkey

Son of Journalist Convicted in Turkey

By C. ONUR ANT | Associated Press Writer
2:55 PM EDT, October 11, 2007

ISTANBUL, Turkey - The son of a journalist killed earlier this year after calling the massacre of Armenians genocide was convicted Thursday of insulting Turkey's identity for republishing his father's remarks.

Arat Dink, editor of the Armenian newspaper Agos, and publisher Serkis Seropyan each received a one-year suspended sentence for "insulting Turkishness," said their lawyer, Erdal Dogan. He said they would appeal the sentences.

Dink is the son of ethnic Armenian journalist Hrant Dink, who was convicted of the same charge for calling the killing of Armenians during World War I genocide. He had appealed the conviction when he was killed by a Turkish youth in January.

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Turkey rejects the label "genocide," maintaining that the death toll is inflated and insisting the killings occurred at a time of civil unrest.

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The European Union has pressured Turkey, which aspires to join the 27-nation bloc, to scrap the controversial law on "insulting Turkishness," saying it restricts freedom of speech.

Some Turkish leaders, including President Abdullah Gul, also believe the law has harmed Turkey's EU bid.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:42 PM
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4. Kick! n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 07:45 PM
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5. Thanks for posting this, very informative
Recommended.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:02 PM
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6. Thanks so much for educating people on the hypocrisy of Bushco
People need to know how twisted and hypocritical these folks are. I am sickened at the firing of the ambassador who spoke the truth.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 08:23 PM
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7. Great find. I thought I remembered Bush flipping his position on this...
Mainly because of the cute Armenian chick in a class of mine supporting Bush because Clinton got Hastert to kill in the bill in '00.

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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:34 PM
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15. I bet that cute Armenian chick does not support Bush now.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-11-07 10:38 PM
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8. A very interesting post. It certainly counters the Bush arguments. well.n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:13 AM
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9. Kick! n/t
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:17 AM
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10. You people sure forget easily..."9-11 changed EVERYTHING"
:shrug:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 08:19 AM
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11. that was before 9/11
I'll bet you a quarter that the Bush defenders will say that
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 09:16 AM
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12. We deem these truths to be bad for business
Bush said... "This resolution... would do great harm to our relations with a key ally in NATO and in the global war on terror.”

Speaking by secure video from Baghdad, the senior American officials in Iraq, Gen. David H. Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan C. Crocker, raised the resolution and warned that its passage could harm the war effort in Iraq, officials said.

Appearing outside the West Wing after that meeting, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates noted that about 70 percent of all air cargo sent to Iraq passes through or comes from Turkey, as does 30 percent of the fuel and virtually all the new armored vehicles designed to withstand mines and bombs.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/10/washington/10cnd-armenia.html?ei=5088&en=2326198b940754af&ex=1349668800&adxnnl=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=2&adxnnlx=1192197754-W7+zDHWsKupbtT0OzbEYgQ

We should never let telling the truth get in the way of the economic and military relationships that our corporations need to grow richer.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:24 PM
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13. Kick! n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:33 PM
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14. someone should remind * when he said that.
what a hypocrite. The EU still has Turkey by the balls because for this reason of Turkey not acknowledging the Genocide, Turkey is not being accepted into the EU. If Turkey wants it bad enough (to be accepted into the EU) they should just acknowledge what their country did to another innocent country and its people, and just move on. Shit grow the fuck up huh?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 05:24 PM
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16. Democrats press on with genocide bill despite Turkish fury

Democrats press on with genocide bill despite Turkish fury

by Jitendra Joshi 57 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Top US Democrats Sunday brushed off Turkish fury and vowed to press ahead bill condemning the mass killing of Armenians decades ago as "genocide," insisting that bloodshed today demanded a righting of past wrongs.

House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi said possible reprisals affecting Turkey's cooperation with the US military were "hypothetical" and would not derail the resolution.

Holding a vote on condemning the massacre, even many years after the fact, is "about who we are as a country," Pelosi told ABC television.

"Genocide still exists, and we saw it in Rwanda; we see it now in Darfur," she said on ABC television after the House foreign affairs committee last week branded the Ottoman Empire's World War I massacre of Armenians a genocide.

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