The Free Republic welcomes conservatives..The Democratic Underground welcomes everyone.

[Renwiick]

The Democratic Underground is what America is all about. I lasted on Free Republic for three days before they found out I was a DU loyalist. I said nothing negative about their group. I just championed the words of hope and I think they prefer the words of hate.

[Pawel K]

1. ok?

:shrug:

[MadMaddie]

2. Not surprised.....they have no clue!

[BuyingThyme]

3. Welcome (back?) to DU, Renwiick!

:hi:

[Canuckistanian]

4. Um, not exactly

Let's just say we welcome everyone from leftist to centrist.

[trotsky]

24. Well...

leftist to left-centrist. ;-)

[Canuckistanian]

25. Never did trust those left-centrists - buncha fascists, if you ask me

And don't get me started on the anarcho-syndicalists....

[Prophet 451]

36. anarcho-syndicalists? It the antidisestablishmentarians you need to watch out for

I can't decide whether to go into "Help, help, I'm being oppressed" or "People's Front of Judea? SPLITTERS!"

[Toots]

29. Greens are finding it quite tough to be on DU

Their ideas are a bit too Liberal for Democrats.

[TroglodyteScholar]

5. Yea this is kind of bullshit tho

We're more tolerant of people who disagree (in some aspects anyway), but loads of people get posts deleted or accounts banned. So don't kid yourself.

[Ishoutandscream2]

7. Yes, I wouldn't exactly call this an open forum

But it's a good place for those of us with similar beliefs to discuss things.

[robcon]

6. Who the f*** cares who posts on FR, or what they say?

n/t

[Bennyboy]

8. Please it is just as restrictive here..or more so...

Like the waiting period between joining and first thread title....At least you lasted three days. even in my short time here I have seen RW people banned almost immediately.....I like boards that ahve both. It igets really testy, but if you have the facts it gives you great satisfaction when you own them.....

[lonestarnot]

32. No one is holding you captive!

[Kahuna]

9. Freepers don't tolerate...hope. That's a dead giveaway.

:hi:

[trumad]

10. Difference is---

Freepers are fucking morans.

[MercutioATC]

11. Ummm..you HAVE seen the tombstone avatar, right?

DU welcomes most Democrats. Republicans are not welcome. Centrists are not welcome. Democrats who piss off the wrong people here are not welcome.

As has been said before, this is not a democracy, this is Skinner's website.

[Renwiick]

13. Skinner

You have over a thousand posts. Skinner must be pretty tolerant of you. After all you insult him and yet you still have posting privileges. Sounds like Skinner promotes the freedom of speech.

[MercutioATC]

18. Over 17,000 posts, actually....

I'm not attacking Skinner, this has all been discussed ad nauseum in the past.

I'm just cautioning against thinking that DU is a bastion of tolerance.

[Renwiick]

19. I am not your enemy Merc 17000

[MercutioATC]

20. Never said you were...

peace :)

[patrice]

12. Our board is also much better looking than theirs.

Less than great looks are okay in people, but completely un-necessary in technology.

[AlCzervik]

15. their board layout keeps them crazy and angry and don't think that not on

purpose.

[Canuckistanian]

21. Whoa. That was like, profound, dude

Less than great looks are okay in people, but completely un-necessary in technology.

[patrice]

34. As such, ugly technology is evidence of one of the following:

laziness
lack of caring
insensitivity
ignorance
a warped aesthetic

[ContraBass Black]

14. Rule #2

2. Who We Are: Democratic Underground is an online community for Democrats and other progressives. Members are expected to be generally supportive of progressive ideals, and to support Democratic candidates for political office.








There is some tolerance, but the rule is enforced.

[Eric J in MN]

16. Posters at DU aren't allowed to start threads advocating the election of Republicans or Greens....

...or Independents like Cindy Sheehan.

[fujiyama]

17. They welcome the following:

Christian Fanatics

Racists

Xenophobes

Homophobes

Misogynists

Ass holes

Fucktards

Psychopaths

Lunatics

Incredibly ignorant and stupid people

Oh hell you get the point by now. They basically attract low life scum.

[Atman]

22. BS

I love DU, but "we" don't accept everyone. In fact, DU readily tombstones friendlies for stepping out of the party line. Donor status and post counts are factors, sure, but hey...this is a BUSINESS for Skinner and Elad. Just because one is given a forum doesn't mean they're free to spout anything they want.

I posted on "the site that shall not be named" a while back, and they kept telling me how privileged I was to be posting there, where they accept free thought and different ideas. Unless I expressed any free thought or different ideas, of course.

They didn't tombstone as readily as DU does, but for good reason...they have so few members. There's a core group of about 35 people that post there. Half of them are angry bitter vets (USA4ME), 1/4 of them are foreigners (Sonnabend), and the rest are just ignorant, stupid short-bussers (DemonicUnderwear), and they just post the same things day after day..."Huh, look at them DUmmmies! They sure is DUmb!" Never any free thought, never an actual in-depth discussion on any issue. They live to berate DU posters, and as such, they can't really tombstone people (except for people like me) because there isn't anyone to replace them.

They finally got rid of me by accusing me of being a child molester, in an otherwise totally unrelated thread. A mod posted it, and claimed he had it "on authority" that it was true. When I challenged him, my post was deleted. When I challenged again, my post was deleted again. So I posted my challenge in every category I could find and THAT's how they tombstoned me...for "spamming the forums."

It's all very GOP-like, as you might expect. In subsequent posts (the mod himself was actually tombstoned just days later for being a dick and arbitrarily tombstoning people) the mods told the board that I was ts'd for spamming.

So what's worse? A site that says "Hey, these are our rules; read them and follow them." Or a site that says "Rules? What rules? We love everybody!" but then goes out of their way to make sure you don't actually stay?

At least DU's honest about it.

.

[Buzz Clik]

30. Oh, my. The primitives are unhappy ....

You're quite the celebrity over there. A bit of a marvel. They do love it when their muse shows up for a clusterf*ck of abuse.

They didn't tombstone as readily as DU does, but for good reason...they have so few members. There's a core group of about 35 people that post there. Half of them are angry bitter vets (USA4ME), 1/4 of them are foreigners (Sonnabend), and the rest are just ignorant, stupid short-bussers (DemonicUnderwear), and they just post the same things day after day..."Huh, look at them DUmmmies! They sure is DUmb!" Never any free thought, never an actual in-depth discussion on any issue. They live to berate DU posters, and as such, they can't really tombstone people (except for people like me) because there isn't anyone to replace them.

They finally got rid of me by accusing me of being a child molester, in an otherwise totally unrelated thread. A mod posted it, and claimed he had it "on authority" that it was true. When I challenged him, my post was deleted. When I challenged again, my post was deleted again. So I posted my challenge in every category I could find and THAT's how they tombstoned me...for "spamming the forums."

The rules of the road in the Outer Rings of Purgatory (thou shalt not mention it by name):

1. Everyone is "welcome", as in welcome to be abused if you don't march in step.
   
2. Threads will be deleted if they upset the tribe.
   
3. The angry ones will begin and end every post with insults laced with foul language, and then call you a pussy if you ask them to address the issues.
   
4. If they cannot find your Achilles heel, they will manufacture one. If that doesn't work, and you remain belligerent, you will be banned.
   
5. The tribe, on average, is fairly intelligent, but they don't work that muscle very often.
   
6. The real smart ones calmly instigate the rabble into fits of fury, and then innocently claim, "Who? Me?" when confronted.
   
7. They love to pound on DU, but they are everything they despise in DU.
   
8. They do loves their nicknames. Right, Pedro? Or was that Fat Che. It's so hard to keep it all straight.

[patrice]

33. 7. Bingo! ding, ding, ding, ding . . . .

Universal truism about the blindness of human nature: Negative attributions about others are ascribed to their permanent personal flaws/liabilities/sins. Negative attributions about one's self are ascribed to temporary situations.

[Blue-Jay]

23. Oh boy...

:rofl:

[Raejeanowl]

26. You Might Be A Little Naive About The Inclusivity

But I'm not going to pee on your optimism. The world needs optimists, bless you. :pals:

[Buzz Clik]

27. DU welcomes everyone? No, they don't. That's stated in the rules.

[Totally Committed]

28. Uh, supposedly DU doesn't welcome EVERYBODY:

Why don't you let conservatives post?

Democratic Underground is not intended to provide a soap-box for our political opponents. If we let conservatives post here, then this discussion forum would be identical to all the other discussion forums on the Internet. If you want to debate conservatives, there are thousands of other websites on the Internet where you can do so -- just not this one.
By the way... There are lots of conservative discussion forums that don't permit liberals to post, including this one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/faq.html#conservatives

I know it seems, after reading a lot of the posts here, that DU does, indeed, welcome conservatives, but the rules state it definitely does not.

Maybe they use a different set of criteria... I dunno. But, no, DU does not welcome everyone.

Just saying.

TC

[NorthernSpy]

31. the hell we do...

We don't allow everyone in. This is a place for Democrats, liberals, and progressives to talk to Democrats, liberals, and progressives. This was never intended to be an all-inclusive forum -- and why should it be?


It's like Landover Baptist's Judy O'Christian says: If you are saved, you are welcome; if you're not, please leave now!

This is a place for us, Renwiick. It's not a place for persons of the political right.

[helderheid]

35. Correction - The Free Republic welcomes NEOconservatives. Welcome to DU!