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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:18 PM
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Sarasota is running amuck with Ron Paul bumper stickers & signs.
WTF is wrong with these people? They want to vote for a dem, but they just can't make the jump from kissing Katherine Harris' lying, sleezing ass. Grrrrr.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:19 PM
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1. People want a change
So far, Ron Paul looks like change.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:20 PM
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2. I have nothing against the guy, but he is saying the same things Dennis is saying.
More or less.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:23 PM
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3. He is opposite of Dennis on just about everything
except the Iraq War. I have seen a rumbling about him that scares me. If repubs feel he is enough of a change, they are likely to vote for the crazy bastard.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:25 PM
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7. To the average person, I meant to say.
They both want to end the war, but you are right, for totally different reasons.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:23 PM
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4. The difference is that Dennis doesn't have a hidden agenda.
The only reason Ron Paul wants the war to end is because he doesn't want the government spending his money. Ron's problem is that he doesn't want the government spending money on anything else either, like social programs.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:24 PM
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5. LOL
The only thing they have in common is that they're against the war.

The only reason people have heard of Ron Paul is because Republicans want to end the war, but they're too cowardly to vote for a Democrat.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:26 PM
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10. Exactly.
It's like they just can't give in and let go of their republican standards.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:32 PM
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13. That and he's of the batshit crazy wing of the conservative movement
I can understand not wanting the government to spend money wastefully, and we all know its out of control. Ron Paul speaks to those who think that the government should not spend any of their money at all and not get any of it to boot. Rob Paul is a libertarian that runs as a Republican and he's running a purely grassroots campaign that is catching the prevailing winds and building up momentum. Some are jumping on in the south because of his Iraq stance and some are just anti-government from the start. The anti-Iraq people will most likely turn to a Democrat in the general election while the anti-goverment types will go back to the G.O.P.

I know a few people like this here in Eastern Tennessee. Ashamed to be a Republican but will vote for Ron Paul because he's the Anti-Republican Republican. About half of these will vote Democratic in the general. I have to give his campaign credit, they've certainly studied grassroots campaigns and made an impact with their own. Too bad their candidate is such a glorified loser whose wrong on pretty much every issue aside from Iraq.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:48 PM
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15. Everytime I hear a republican candidate, they're blathering about not raising taxes.
That seems to be their main platform. Don't raise taxes...money money money. Seems like that's all they give a crap about. Just don't make them pay anything.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:07 PM
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17. Taxes=Bad - Credit Card Economy=Good

"Gee folks, we will never raise taxes on you - taxes are bad because they pay for horrible social programs that liberals want to put into place like healthcare. However, we want to spend trillions on illegal wars fought on false pretenses and spend all kinds of money making sure that your jobs are outsourced overseas making your executives extremely rich. Then when this catches up to us, we will make sure a Democrat is in office so that they have to raise taxes and take the blame for all the debt we created. Oh, and you'll be one paying for it along with your children and grandchildren. Vote for us because we love Jesus and hate brown people!"
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:24 PM
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6. .
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 12:25 PM by KurtNYC
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:26 PM
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11. Until the subject changes to healthcare, taxes, immigration, the environment,
guns, election integrity, so I'd have to go with the "less" part.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:13 PM
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18. for one horse voters....still a repuke
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:15 PM
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20. If by change you mean return to the Gilded Age then yes
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:25 PM
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8. Detroit too
Last week there was a sudden appearance of Ron Paul signs on every overpass I have seen. Going both ways.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:26 PM
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9. I actually think it would be HYSTERICAL if Paul won the Pub Fl, primary!
I wouldn't worry too much about the Dems sticking with Paul. He soulds GREAT on Iraqa and his overall foreign policy, but when people get to hear the other things he wants to do (as a strict Libertarian) they'll drop him like a stone.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:27 PM
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12. The Dems abdicated
the Bubba vote, all those profoundly disenchanted, suspicious of 911 and other huge scandal coverups, seeing Dem/GOP equivalency. these are red meat liberetarians abandonned by the wayside the dems COULD have had for real action confronting the war, the scandals or anything. Simply promising these people, typically low wage earners with nothing much to lose, a higher minimum wage or health care is a minor sop to the seething anger and the deep confrontational rage against a fraudulent system.

Like all libertarians they seem to be much more suckered into voting against their interests than liberals voting for sort of centrist Dems. IF Ron Paul won his confrontation against the corruption and the war will mrach in meltdown with his suddenly discovered ultra conservative economic policies, but the main thing is that these are the abandonned people, one small sign of the abandonment and confusion of most of the American people- and reality and hope- by much of the high leadership of both parties.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:41 PM
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14. Same thing in Rochester, NY
They are hand made, small, posted on telephone poles at corners and such.
I few larger ones above the freeway.

I have seen about 10 of them in the last week.

Cheers
Drifter
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 12:49 PM
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16. it gives the now self proclaimed Libertarians (shamedrepublicans) someone to vote for.
so many new libertarians around now.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 01:14 PM
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19. I saw Ron Paul lit on the Long Island Rail Road yesterday.
I know the Paul people have been working in NYC. It's the first time I've seen anything on LI.
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