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Fri Oct-12-07 12:28 PM
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Will Gore's award convince those still on the fence that global warming exists? |
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I've gotten into some heated discussions on this topic with people at work about this topic and I can't believe it's still a question in their minds. Do you think such international and prestigious recognition of this issue will finally be the tipping point?
Sometimes I think the real problem is that if they recognize the threat, they might actually have make some changes in their own lives and do something about it. Thing is, much of it isn't really that hard -- changing light bulbs, recycling, not overconsuming, turning down the thermostat, bringing cloth bags to the store, etc. We keep adding new things, but best of all, it's saving us money.
So at what point will we accept this as fact? What will it take to get people to change?
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:29 PM
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Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 12:29 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:32 PM
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7. People such as him don't really count |
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He's on the payroll of global warming denial.
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Sat Oct-13-07 08:10 PM
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15. Which is on the payroll for |
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:29 PM
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2. nothing can convince some people. |
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:29 PM
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3. no -- people that stupid don't change |
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Wait until the seawater's up to their necks. They'll still be saying it's a librul plot to turn us all into communists.
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Sat Oct-13-07 08:16 PM
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that had these two deniers on a porch with a dry cracked, dusty earth all around them and they were saying.."Damn Libruls were right."
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:30 PM
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4. Some people will always refuse to see the train coming until it's too late to move |
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That's just the way humans are.
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:31 PM
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5. I don't think anybody's on the fence. |
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There are three kinds of people.
1. Those that admit there's global warming.
2. Those that have personal interests in denying it.
3. Those who are too stupid to know any better, and believe people #2. These people are beyond hope, and the Nobel won't change anything.
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:32 PM
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6. anyone who persists in denying global warming at this point will always do so, IMHO |
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and yes, I work with one of those clueless people. Whenever global warming comes up, he loudly declares there is no global warming and its a plot by democrats to discredit the resident.
I don't think he's ever going to suddenly become enlightened one day, and certainly not because of this award.
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:33 PM
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8. Is it about whether it exists, or what mankind has done to speed it up? |
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I think most people believe it exists because the earth has gone through heating and cooling periods for hundreds of millions of years. I think the question some people have is how fast, and what's the cause.
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:33 PM
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9. Its gonna take a hit to their money to convince some |
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They could be treading water as the levels rise and still deny it as long as they were making money.
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:35 PM
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10. agree with the rest of the posters--nothing will get the deluded to change. and, hard as it may be |
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to believe, it isn't just the ignorant who think this way. a friend of mine was telling me about a conversation she had with her brother last week, who denied climate change, and said that it was all rachel carson's fault for scaring people about ddt. this man was a 35-year career army officer!!
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Sat Oct-13-07 08:07 PM
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13. Umm, Rachel Carson *was* right. |
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I guess people like this think they'll live in some plastic bubble, protected from the world that they helped destroy.
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:48 PM
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11. Not at all. In fact, expect a backlash. |
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Some people think all of this global warming talk is a conspiracy to ruin the American way if life. And then there are a significant amount of people who think that the the concept of global warming is in direct conflict with scripture. Al Gore's name is going to be dragged through the mud in a lot of fundie churches this Sunday, you can be sure of that.
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Fri Oct-12-07 12:51 PM
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12. I just returned from a visit to Lower Wingnuttia, and the answer is No. |
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It turns out that the Nobel is a worthless, politically correct bit of propaganda and anyone who gets one should feel intense shame at being once again exposed as a fraud.
I'm totally serious--this is the frame that is even now being set. The rightfreak attack on the Nobel Committee and the whole concept of the Peace Prize has begun.
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Sat Oct-13-07 08:10 PM
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16. Well, they did give one to Carter |
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That destroyed their credibility right there. :sarcasm: for those impaired
On a side note, as an atheist, I have great respect and admiration for Carter as a Christian. I wish more would follow his path.
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Sat Oct-13-07 08:10 PM
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14. No. At this point, opposition has nothing to do with science, and everything to do with ideology. |
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The only solution to the problem is some form of regulation, and since opponents are invariably arch conservatives or libertarians, they cannot believe in something that requires regulation to fix it.
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Sat Oct-13-07 08:12 PM
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What a moron -he attacked the Swedish (sic) socialists for giving Gore the award.
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Sat Oct-13-07 08:18 PM
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19. politics has poisoned the science...it's sad |
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Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:19 PM by spanone
nothing will convince the rwingnuts
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