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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:43 AM
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DISGRACEFUL: Schwarzenegger Vetoes Gay Marriage


SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed another gay marriage bill Friday, saying voters and the state Supreme Court, not lawmakers, should decide the issue. The Republican governor turned down a measure by Assemblyman Mark Leno that would have defined marriage as a union between two people, not just a man and a woman. Schwarzenegger vetoed a similar bill from Leno, a San Francisco Democrat, in 2005 and has said he would veto all such bills.

The California Supreme Court is likely to rule next year on whether the state's voter-approved ban on gay marriage violates the constitution.

Schwarzenegger said in his veto message that Californians "should not be discriminated against based upon their sexual orientation." He said he supports state laws that give domestic partners many of the rights and responsibilities of marriage.

Geoff Kors, executive director of Equality California, a gay rights group, said the veto was "hypocrisy at its worst. We find it shocking for the governor to say he opposes discrimination based on sexual orientation and then veto a bill that would have ended discrimination based on sexual orientation," Kors said.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hZmLBrL36NObNyMR0ghXN7vB5hYwD8S83H903
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:54 AM
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1. It's the Governator's preferred modus operandi:
Say one thing, do another, and then claim to be meeting everyone halfway.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:09 AM
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2. Err, I'm confused
"The California Supreme Court is likely to rule next year on whether the state's voter-approved ban on gay marriage violates the constitution."

Then what good would have the bill that Arnold vetoed done if they already passed a state amendment (I'm guessing it's an amendment anyway) banning gay marriage? Isn't a voter approved bill in a state more powerful then a law the state tries to pass? I'm confused here.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:15 PM
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14. Rights shouldn't be voted on by the populace
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:22 AM
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3. Isn't Sharzenegger kind of already married to himself?
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 02:26 AM by DLnyc
He speaks (if you can call it that) mostly about his great love for himself. I've always thought of him as kind of married to himself. Which, obviously, is a form of gay marriage (though kind of a lame form, I agree).

Republicanism in a nutshell: Glorify the 'manly man', war, domination, cruelty. Then hide in the closet all the other aspects of human existence that cry inside you for aknowledgemnet. Than kill anyone who brings this up. Like me.

But, ironically, I am beginning to be grateful to these guys for finally discrediting (I hope) the whole warfascistmachopowerforcekillnationalismGodguiltslaverytorturewhineyassbullshitrightwing DOGCRAP that's been trying to sodomize this country since somewhere early in the 20th century (don't forget, please, these guys were on the same side as Franco and Hitler).


(eidit just to show it's okay to admit a mistake, patch it up as well as you can, and go on, humbled but not necessarily defeated.)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:24 AM
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4. Lawmakers shouldn't make laws. What a genius.
I apologize for this POS in our statehouse.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:53 AM
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5. Apology accepted.
I also would like to apologize for this asshole LIARman who is a disgrace to the Constitution State. :(

I know you tried. We tried too. :(
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:01 AM
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6. Let's buy them an island where they can be happy
and harmless.

:)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:37 PM
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12. I apologize for both my senators. No excuses.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:59 AM
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7. I wish I had a robot voice mp3 saying,
"He's a fucking asshole." That would sum my feelings up about him denying at least California GLBT people from equal civil rights.

Oh, fuck it. Who needs a robot voice to mimic him?
I'll just say it: He's a fucking asshole.
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 04:54 AM
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8. Dammit, BlueBear!
Next time issue a WARNING when posting a picture like that!

That photo scared the bejonkers outta me! Dayum!

:yoiks:
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 05:51 AM
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9. the f*ckwad also vetoed single payer universal health care last year-nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:20 PM
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10. Could someone remind me when this POS's term is up.
We need to field someone who can take back the damn statehouse.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:11 PM
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13. Perzactly.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 02:18 PM
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15. The corporate media is trying to slime our Sec of State
who is cleaning up our messed up elections. But, they are getting push back. (No one at the Chronicle will ever speak to me again (except one reporter friend and the readers' rep because it's his job) because I called them out on smearing Debra Bowen just like they smeared Kevin Shelley.

These pinheads never stop.

Enough already. :grr:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:35 PM
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16. But, but, but....
...he was in the movies! He's a star! Who else could be more qualified to be governor? Don't you know that being a movie star makes you superhuman and capable of all things?!? The only way we'll have a hope of getting him out of office is by finding a movie star of our own. Or maybe a singer. Even a wrestler would do, in a pinch.

And Al Gore doesn't count. He became a movie star after he was already a politician. It doesn't work that way around.
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:36 PM
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11. no gay marriage initiative on the ballot is what's disgraceful
until the voters of this state pass a new initiative that voids the previous anti-gay marriage initiative governors will veto gay marriage. If they don't veto these bills you can bet your sweet ass the great state of California has more than enough right wing fundy preachers who'll take it to our Supreme Court.

I loath the Austrian steroid puppet but he's saving time and money by vetoing these bills. He has consistently pointed the way to avoid his veto - a new state initiative. I'm not gay. I'm straight, married. and have nothing personally at stake here. I wish my gay friends, especially all the couple I know who have been together longer than my wife and I, could get legally married and have the same rights as straight people. the few times I've mentioned a state wide initiative to my politically active gay buddies I heard crickets chirping.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 04:40 PM
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17. Funny that the guy who starred in a movie where a guy becomes pregnant...
would be the one to veto gay marriage. :eyes:
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