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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:52 AM
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Poll question: Does Hillary Clinton have the right LAUGH to be President?
TPM: 10.13.07 -- 11:40AM // http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/055869.php
It's still no laughing matter

Hillary Clinton appeared on MSNBC's "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" on Thursday, prompting CBS News to run a report on the interview. It included this jaw-dropper, by way of reader DOK:

During the twelve-minute interview, the former first lady chuckled in response to Olbermann. But she never unleashed the highly-scrutinized, overly-analyzed belly laugh known as "the cackle" that has been the focus of national media over the past few weeks. Which raises the question: Has the tightly-managed Clinton campaign put the kibosh on the cackle?

Yes, we've apparently reached a point in the media's coverage of the campaign in which news outlets find it noteworthy when they don't notice anything unusual about Sen. Clinton's laugh.

As Greg Sargent put it, "We've come full circle: Damned if you do cackle; damned if you don't."

SO, let's see if Clinton passes the Cackle Test?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 10:57 AM
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1. I predicted a week or so ago that "the Cackle" would disappear.
Has the tightly-managed Clinton campaign put the kibosh on the cackle?

Of course they did.Even though it's one of the stupidest things to complain about her, they realized it was still getting enough attention that it had to ditched.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:40 PM
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13. My impression was very positive. What a breath of fresh air, basically.
I thought that the question deserved further derision after Hillary's hearty "laugh."
What amazes is how a really good laugh gets turned into a "cackle"
instead of synonyms less easily associated with witchcraft and chickens :rofl:

cackle v. , -led , -ling , -les . v.intr. To make the shrill cry characteristic of a hen after laying an egg.

That Clinton cackle
By Joan Vennochi, Globe Columnist | September 30, 2007
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/09/30/that_clinton_cackle/

HENS CACKLE. So do witches. And, so does the front-runner in the Democratic presidential contest.

Former Bill Clinton adviser Dick Morris recently described Hillary Clinton's laugh as "loud, inappropriate, and mirthless. . . . A scary sound that was somewhere between a cackle and a screech." Politico's Ben Smith referred to Clinton's "signature cackle." Conservative radio hosts routinely play Clinton's "cackle" on their radio shows.

Yet according to a new poll, the cackler is leading her closest competitor in New Hampshire by 20 points. As a result, her challengers made her their target during last week's Hanover, N.H., debate.

Any woman who has ever been the only female in the room knows the guys are always waiting for that perfect moment - the one that makes the woman look silly, stupid, weepy or best of all, witchy. The men running against Clinton are still waiting for such an opportunity.

So far, all they have to work with is her laugh. The cackler is smooth, well-scripted, and undeterred by their now-familiar attacks.

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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cackles

ThesaurusLegend: Synonyms Related Words Antonyms
Noun 1. cackle - the sound made by a hen after laying an egg
cry - the characteristic utterance of an animal; "animal cries filled the night"
2. cacklecackle - noisy talk
chatter, yack, yak, yakety-yak
talk, talking - an exchange of ideas via conversation; "let's have more work and less talk around here"
blether, chin music, idle talk, prate, prattle - idle or foolish and irrelevant talk
3. cackle - a loud laugh suggestive of a hen's cackle
laugh, laughter - the sound of laughing
Verb 1. cackle - talk or utter in a cackling manner; "The women cackled when they saw the movie star step out of the limousine"
mouth, speak, talk, verbalise, verbalize, utter - express in speech; "She talks a lot of nonsense"; "This depressed patient does not verbalize"
2. cackle - squawk shrilly and loudly, characteristic of hens
let loose, let out, utter, emit - express audibly; utter sounds (not necessarily words); "She let out a big heavy sigh"; "He uttered strange sounds that nobody could understand"
gaggle - make a noise characteristic of a goose; "Cackling geese"
3. cackle - emit a loud, unpleasant kind of laughing
express joy, express mirth, laugh - produce laughter
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:00 AM
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2. But how does it compare to Bush's
heh...heh...heh?
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:09 AM
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3. Bush wishes he could laugh, especially since January!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:14 AM
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5. Ministry has a song on their new CD that uses a sample of that laugh to great effect.
They use it with the Bush opening.It's both creepy and funny at the same time. :)

Death and Destruction

"Now I hear the voices and I know the speculation (uh) but I am the
decider (uh) and I decide what is best (uh) what's best (uh) death and
destruction, death and destruction (uh) death and destruction (uh)
death and destruction (uh)…"

You go to war without a care in the world
No matter what the cost
Must be a reason for all this treason
It never mattered if we won or lost

Stuck in the middle of a civil war
Well what the fuck do you expect
Our occupation of other nations
Is bound to have a fucking violent effect

So what, you always try to go to war
but you never went
It doesn't matter if blood is splattered
We make a killing off the ones that we send

You want it
You got it
You break it
You bought it
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:43 PM
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14. Beavis & Butthead all the way. n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:13 AM
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4. So they'll find something else.
Al Gore was a squeaky clean boy scout and everybody knew it. They branded him a liar.

John Kerry was a legitimate war hero and they branded him a coward.

Truth is irrelevant to the oft-repeated lie.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:19 AM
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6. She needs to take a lesson from James Dean. nt
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:32 AM
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7. Well, the cackle did need to get fixed, and I'll be glad if it has in
fact been replaced with genuine mirthiness. The media obsessing over it is quite another thing, though. The msm has taken on a weird sporscaster style to their political reporting, especially about the "debates". "who scored points?" "who dropped the ball?" "who fumbled" I so miss the past when reporters told us things that happened instead of their opinion of it. I think they used to call it "the news".
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:33 AM
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8. Dumb ass people are the ones who don't realize this is all republican
swift boating and amounts to a pile of shit. Look at the way they are starting up again about Obama. I think the media has their orders. Ridicule the democrats as much as possible.

What the hell difference does it make if Hillary lets out a guffaw to be heard in the back of the studio. What difference does it make if Obama's middle name is Hussein or whatever. The difference is SOME of the democrats are starting to act small minded the way the republicans want them to.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:42 PM
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16. Appatrently "cackle" is a talking point. It is SOOO SEXIST too!
Suddenly, cackle was oft repeated. The script writer is centralized, it seems.

If "media personalities" knew who writes their lines, would they still utter them?
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:57 AM
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9. Who in her position would NOT laugh when asked about "partisan politics"?
I always find Bob Schieffer's questions alternating between infuriating and cackle-worthy. Even my dog won't stay in the room with me when I'm watching Face the Nation or Meet the Press because of my ongoing commentary.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:08 PM
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12. The Ever-Expanding American Political Lexicon. Adding "cackle-worthy"
Thank you for your contribution.
You will go down in history with neologisms like swiftboating. :rofl:
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 01:03 PM
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15. Glad you like it!
:hi:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:58 AM
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10. fucking shit.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 12:01 PM
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11. No.
I can play too.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:44 PM
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17. Other - It needs more "Bwoo-ha-ha!"
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 03:44 PM
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18. why the fuck does her laugh matter?
WTF is this-- is this REALLY what political discourse has become in this country? Talking about a candidate's "cackle"?

What a nation of idiots.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 11:00 PM
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20. Somebody either thinks we are a nation of idiots, or just wishes it were so
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 04:00 PM
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19. Her laugh's better than Tweety's.
HA!
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