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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:57 PM
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Telecoms barred from disclosing spying (state secrets privilege formally invoked)
WASHINGTON --Three telecommunications companies have declined to tell Congress whether they gave U.S. intelligence agencies access to Americans' phone and computer records without court orders, citing White House objections and national security.

Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell "formally invoked the state secrets privilege to prevent AT&T from either confirming or denying" any details about intelligence programs, AT&T general counsel Wayne Watts wrote in a letter to the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

Qwest and Verizon also declined to answer, saying the federal government has prohibited them from providing information, discussing or referring to any classified intelligence activities.

The Bush administration has said the companies cooperated in good faith because of their patriotism and desire to protect the country in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and should not be punished.

However, last week a Colorado court unsealed documents in the case of former Qwest CEO Joseph Nacchio, who was convicted of insider trading in April. Nacchio, who is appealing his conviction, maintains the National Security Agency asked Qwest to allow it to conduct electronic surveillance without a court order in February 2001, six months before the Sept. 11 attacks.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/10/15/telecoms_barred_from_disclosing_spying/
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:00 PM
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1. Like I've been saying since 911.
This asshole signed an EO saying that all mass communications would be controlled by the Executive Branch.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:01 PM
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2. Patriotism?
They were unpatriotic to do it.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:46 PM
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8. Up is down, day is night, and we have always been at war with Eastasia. nm
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:03 PM
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3. What are they hiding...the fact that they broke the law?
No the * Administration was asking for this information 6 months before 9/11...yea...LIHOP and MIHOP are sounding more and more like fact.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:59 PM
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11. The fact that they broke the law WAY before 9-11, and used it 100 times more than they
told congress they would. (They would never phone tap innocent americans....And somehow, congress acts as if it believes that.)
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:09 PM
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4. This part to me is incredible!
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 09:10 PM by LakeSamish706
"Nacchio, who is appealing his conviction, maintains the National Security Agency asked Qwest to allow it to conduct electronic surveillance without a court order in February 2001, six months before the Sept. 11 attacks."

Hmmmm What does that mean for this Administration?
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:22 PM
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5. Court Orders? WTF?
A Congressional subpeona needs a court order to enforce it?

We don't need no stanking court order!

-Hoot
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:31 PM
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6. That's what I don't understand, either. Seems most Americans were taught
an "incorrect history" about subpoenas and the power of Congress and our Laws! :shrug:

How can this P-Resident/Squatter defy what even Nixon couldn't? It has to be because they aren't afraid of the LAWS ...they CONTROL IT ALL! :scared:
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:36 PM
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7. Stalin, Hitler, Mao loved state secrets
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:36 PM
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9. Grow a spine NOW, Congress!
And, before you act, each of you needs to go read a copy of the U.S. Constitution. You see, Nancy Pelosi (and Co.), there's this concept called "separation of powers." Go look it up, Nancy Pelosi!

AND, this law school graduate says, "Hey, Nancy, go read 'Broken Government' by John Dean. Pay particular attention to Appendix C, which debunks the Unitary Executive garbage."

Geez, these Congresscritters make me mad!

:mad:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:02 PM
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10. There should NEVER be anything classified out of reach
of our top elected officials and judges. Declaring "National Security" should NEVER be a way of hiding anything from other branches of the government.

This just screams of illegal and unconstitutional abuse of power. x(
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:34 AM
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12. I just don't
get why they are not holding press conferences and howling about this.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:36 AM
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13. Joseph Stalin would be proud.


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