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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:52 PM
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What is going on with "Hillary Exposed"?
I was browsing Al Gore's "Current TV" and saw a posting about some movie supposedly coming out called "Hillary Exposed". I followed a link to a site called Hillcap.org, which had a trailer for the movie, which is supposed to be released at the end of October.

The trailer claims that Hillary ripped off Stan Lee (the creator of Marvel Comics) for several million, and committed large-scale election fraud in some Hollywood gala held for her. The site said the video was posted on Google video under "Hillary Uncensored" and sure enough it was there. But Hillcap.org also said it was the top rated video from Oct. 10 - 12, but wasn't anywhere near the top on the 15th, so this may be bogus.

I have never heard of this before. Is this a new Swiftboat attack, or is there some element of truth in it? I can't figure it out. It seems like the right wing would have run like crazy with it if it had any truth in it, or maybe even if it didn't. But I haven't heard a peep. Yet who else would create a smear like this, if it is a smear? But if they did, why aren't they running with it? Unless it's so libelous as to be almost untouchable. I don't know -- it's weird.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:54 PM
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1. "Weird" indeed
Hillary vs. Marvel Comics, lol.

Never heard of this.

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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:29 AM
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10. I sure wish Gore Man would come to the rescue
Faster than a speeding swiftboat attack
Leaps tall hyperbole with a single bound
Stops a shit train with a single glance
Exposes fraud and corruption with his x-ray vision

The criminals all say "Run for your lives! It's the G-Man!"
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:06 AM
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2. No swift boating
If it's Hillary it must be true. This post will get 75 K&R's in 2 minutes.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:49 AM
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17. And I notice that no Clinton supporters have come on to
throw wild ,baseless accusations at their fellow Democratic candidates being behind the attempt to smear. There are a whole lot of people here who would have jumped at the chance to blame Clinton had this been about their candidate.
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fedupfisherman Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:07 AM
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3. k&r
Interesting.........
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:10 AM
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4. It's an accusation made by a convicted felon.

I don't find it particularly credible.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_F._Paul

Peter F. Paul (born September 2, 1948<1>) has been a lawyer, and entrepreneur, former partner of Spider-Man creator Stan Lee in Stan Lee Media, and convicted felon. In 2000, he became central to a campaign fund-raising scandal involving Senator Hillary Clinton.<2>

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Connections to Hillary Clinton's senatorial campaign

Paul emerged in 2000 as the largest contributor to Senatorial candidate Hillary Clinton. Paul and his attorneys have at various times offered two explanations for this. First, that he was trying to attract her husband, then-President Bill Clinton, to serve on the board of Stan Lee Media after leaving office. Second, that he hoped to negotiate a pardon for his previous criminal convictions.<21><22> Paul produced and underwrote what he described as the largest fund raising event ever held for a federal candidate <23>, in Los Angeles, days before the 2000 Democratic Convention began. The Hollywood Farewell Gala Salute to President William Jefferson Clinton featured prominent entertainers singing for the President, while raising over $1 million for Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign.<24> The event cost over $2 million to organize, much of it borrowed fraudulently by Paul from Merrill Lynch. Later indictments would state that Merrill Lynch lost about $5 million it had lent to Paul.<22>

Two days after the gala, the Washington Post publicized Paul's criminal record, and Hillary Clinton denied knowing Paul and "vowed not to take any contributions from him". Through her official spokesman, Howard Wolfson, Hillary stated on August 16, 2000 that she would return $2,000 she reported receiving from Paul in June 2000,<22> and would not have anything further to do with him.

Paul alleged that Clinton was deceitful in this,<25> and retained public interest law firm, and frequent Clinton opponent, Judicial Watch to represent him in a series of civil and criminal lawsuits against the Clintons, the Clinton campaign, and ultimately the Federal Election Commission (which he charged was negligent in failing to convict Mrs. Clinton).<26><27><28><29> These charges were delayed, as courts held that Paul could not bring charges against the Clintons as he fought extradition from Brazil,<30> but proceeded once he was returned to the States.<31>

The Clinton campaign was ultimately asked to pay $35,000 in fines for having underreported the cost of the gala.<32> Paul's suit against the FEC was thrown out; his attempt to bring ethics charges against Clinton were rejected,<33> and his fraud charges against Senator Clinton were tossed out in April 2006.<34> As of April 2007<35>, Paul's civil charges against Senator Clinton and former President Clinton for "looting"<36> his business remained outstanding.



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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:20 AM
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8. Ah... and this is what I was looking for
The other side of the story. Thanks for the research.

So it does look like a swiftboat style attack. Or just a spurned donor who feels really pissed off.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:21 AM
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9. You can read more at the link.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:35 AM
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15. This one is sub-swiftboat.
The whole thing is way, way, way to messy to be a smooth swiftboat style hit. This is a personal vendetta by a guy whose loaded with to much baggage for the media to take seriously.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:11 AM
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5. Somehow I highly doubt Al Gore or Current TV is promoting this tripe.
Smells like more cheap Republican smear from the smear machine. Perhaps we can hear about how Hillary hung crack pipes on the WH Xmas tree after personally offing Vince Foster, again?

Sounds like utter bullshit.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:15 AM
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6. Maybe a Rovian trick?
:D

Who would do this sort of thing. Hmm... :think:

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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:17 AM
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7. No, no -- Al Gore has nothing to do with this
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 12:21 AM by JMDEM
I just meant it was on "Current TV" that he started. That's where I first saw it -- the first time I ever looked at "Current TV". I think anyone can post there.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:32 AM
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11. It's a freeper: Doug from Upland
He posts all this wierd stuff in freeperville. He's creepily disturbed. I gather he's been doing this for years.
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JMDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:55 AM
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13. Doug from Upland -- wow, the guy is (in)famous
San Bernadino...

She lives in Mojave in a Winnebago
His name is Bobby, he looks like a potato

She's in love with a boy
From the rodeo
Who pulls the rope on the chute
When they let those suckers go
(Yeah-hey! Suckers!)

He got slobberin' drunk at the Palomino
They give him thirty days in San Ber'dino


(Zappa -- San Ber'dino)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:05 AM
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14. That explains a lot.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:46 AM
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12. You know damn well it is a swift boat attack.
What would happen, if the democrats had made these type of videos and spread them around when bush was running for election.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:31 AM
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16. The Nut Of The Story
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 05:34 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Some ex felon Hollywood mogul type with a lot of money donated to Hillary Clinton's campaign in the hope that Bill Clinton would be a "rain man" for his production company. When that didn't happen he got really pissed off..

Bill Clinton is loaded for the first time in his life... I doubt he wants to be any body's "rain man"...

That's the story to the best of my recollection...
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