Poor Don Imus. Cut him some slack. He's a funny guy.

[Stinky The Clown]

Yadda yadda yadda. Pat Buchanan on every MSNBC show there is, standing up for that stand up guy, Don Imus.

Hahahahaha

Yeah .....

Stand up guy.

My ass.

[Ian David]

1. At least he didn't call our troops "Phony Soldiers".

The Rutgers Girl's basketball team just needs to become perfected, that's all.

Besides... on some level, didn't they enjoy it?




(In case you've missed it, I'm repurposing rightwing quotes for ironic purposes).

[Stinky The Clown]

4. Oh yeah .... I forgot that one .......

The team got to be on Oprah.

Yeah, sure Pat. That's worth it.

You fucking moron.

[Virginia Dare]

2. Pat's still singing it and bringing it?

after he got his ass handed to him last night on Tweety's show?

[seabeyond]

3. Cut him some slack.............. NO. wink n/t

[redqueen]

5. Is Imus in trouble for something?

I can't keep up with these big-mouthed morons.

[MADem]

8. He's back on WABC in December. NT

[redqueen]

9. Oh I see... he's been punished enough for his remarks, then, I guess.

Funny how the most vile, disgusting RNC mouthpieces always manage to stay so employable by that crazy, liberal-hating 'liberal' media we have.

[MADem]

12. RNC mouthpiece? You apparently have never listened to him.

He was OPPOSED to the WAR. He called Bush and Cheney WAR CRIMINALS.

It's helpful to have a few facts in your pocket before you post such drivel.

He may be an asshole, but he's NOT an RNC mouthpiece, and only anyone ignorant of his show and its content would make that kind of accusation.

If he were an RNC mouthpiece, I wish they had more just like him. We'd have 90 seats in the Congress if that were the case.

[redqueen]

14. Mea culpa.

Feel better about yourself now?

Fucking hell, the rudeness around here is out of control.

:puke:


So, I stand RUDELY corrected... not RNC mouthpiece... rogue asshole mouthpiece. :hi:

[MADem]

17. Hey, backatcha!!!!

:hi:

[redqueen]

19. It's always shocking to me to see poeple who are proud of being shitty. n/t

[MADem]

22. With me, it's the didactic hypersensitive, childish snotheads that I find surprising!!!

:hi:

[redqueen]

23. Thanks for insulting me some more.

Keep digging.

[MADem]

32. You're quite welcome

:cry: :cry: :cry:


:rofl:

[redqueen]

33. Make no mistake. You haven't hurt my feelings at all.

I have, however, found your style of 'discussion' disgusting and childish.

I don't know what you find so hilarious. :shrug:

I don't enjoy but do appreciate your continuing display of this behavior for my own strange reasons.

[MADem]

36. Well, if that's the case, why do you keep pestering me?

:cry:

:rofl:

[redqueen]

39. In your opinion, I'm pestering you?

Funny how perspective colors our opinions. Seems to me like I posted a response to this thread, and you've been pestering me ever since.

[MADem]

42. No, you're a sad little creature with no life, who likes to fight over nothing.

I really do feel sorry for you.

When I'm not laughing, that is...

[redqueen]

44. ...

...

[LanternWaste]

52. Well... that settles it, Red

Well... that settles it, Red-- I have a thing for sad, little creatures who fight over nothing. Therefore-- tonight at 7pm, my place. Pasta salad and wine, plus a fight over nothing (just to make sure you're entertained)-- I'll make a list of topics we can fight over...

1. Cowboys really are petter than the Pats.
2. Jazz does *not* sound like a saxophone regurgitating cheap liquor.
3. Checkmate is not always an innuendo.
4. Apologies are good enough on DU (Oops! doubt we can argue over that one as we both know it's not..)
5. My candidate is better than your candidate!!!!

(Hey-- blow this stuff off, it's only Tuesday)

[redqueen]

56. I was fighting?

:shrug:

I made a couple of contrarian observations... it was all one sided from there on out.

I like argument and discussion... I really can't stand petty bullshit that does nothing to help anything (except one's own ego).

And I would prefer the topic about apologies being good enough... cause I think they are. The rest is all subjective. :hi:

[LanternWaste]

59. it's not a "real" apology until you...

Well, according to others you were fighting. And since it was on the internet tubes-- I took it as the truth... :)

I wish apologies were good enough, but we both know that on DU, it's not a "real" apology until you sign over kidney, bend over a stool, and... modesty prevent me from continuing, but you get the drift.

[redqueen]

61. Ah you're being silly.

:P

Not everyone is unreasonable in what they accept by way of apologies.

[Lance_Boyle]

15. You may not like Imus, but he is no 'RNC mouthpiece'

His firing from MSRNC was due in large part to his anti-administration rants. The man called both Cheney and Rumsfeld "war criminals" on the air.

As an aside, good to see he'll be back - the hysteria over his lame womens basketball joke was far more revealing of the authoritarian left than of Imus.

[redqueen]

20. Check upthread. Was already very rudely corrected.

"Hysteria" huh? Nice word choice there.

[FredScuttle]

6. Pat's idea of humor

"The Wit and Wisdom of Heinrich Himmler"

"David Duke's Private Joke File"

"Belsen Was A Gas - The Memoirs of A Concentration Camp Entertainer"

"1001 Funny Things to Say To A Sharecropper"

[MADem]

7. He's opposed to the war and he hates Bush.

That's two things in his favor.

He apologized. Often. That's three--I haven't seen Limbaugh or his ilk apologize for ANYTHING.

I think he's pretty shitty to Senator Clinton, unreasonably so.

He's completely wrapped around his wife's finger--of course, if you looked like him, you probably would be, too.

He's into raising money for children with cancer, he's getting greener the older he gets, and he is what he is.

He's got a schtick that is well past its sell-by date. I'd like to see him co-host a show with Wanda Sykes, myself. That might fly.

In any event, I'll listen to his show--if it's got a better format, I'll keep listening. If he can get the political interviews again, I'll be delighted--we're not hearing any of that anymore.

Anything's better than that drivel on MSGOP. That's unwatchable.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

13. I bookmarked WABC yesterday.

Looking forward to hearing Imus, & hopefully Charles and Chris again.
I just hope he doesn't drag BerNard along with him!

[MADem]

18. I agree with you -- Bernard needs to git gone. All of that stupid crap was not

needed to make the show pop...

[Beelzebud]

25. A stopped clock is correct two times a day.

[MADem]

31. He was right more than twice.

He was the one who had a field day with Cheney shooting his lawyer in the face, saying he should be hanged, callling him and Monkey War Criminals...

But then, if you don't want to listen, DON'T.

No one is forcing you to.

[Beelzebud]

38. I agree with your point, actually.

I don't like him, so I don't tune in. Pretty simple.

I don't really think he should have been pulled off the air either.

[MADem]

43. The guy frequently drove me up the wall, as well.

But the level of discourse, when it wasn't chidish in the extreme, was sometimes very good.

He had some good guests, and when he did, he did two things that I really liked:

1. He asked hard questions, the ones that I would ask. And it didn't matter if the guest was a lefty or a rightie.

2. He let the interviewees ANSWER. He wouldn't let them give a non-answer, but he'd make them, AND let them, answer the question.

I enjoyed that aspect of the show. Sometimes my blood would boil and I'd roll my eyes, and when it got too absurd, I'd vote with the remote, but there were times when it was worth listening to.

It will be interesting to see if he can get his old guests back--that's what will make or break him.

[NNN0LHI]

27. He opposed the war AFTER our soldiers began coming home in boxes by the thousands

Boy that was really big of him.

On the lead up to invading Iraq anyone who didn't agree with Bush was a terrorist as far as Imus was concerned.

I might have been born yesterday but it wasn't last night.

Don

[MADem]

35. He sure DID!!!!!

And once he started doing it, all of those righties that had that secret, bad feeling about this misadventure in the ME got up the courage to say they had a problem with it, too.

I hate to tell ya, more than seventy percent of this country was for this shit mess we're in, once upon a time. Are all of them to be permanently excoriated because they didn't get the spirit soon enough to suit your enlightened ass? Geez, Jack MURTHA had better watch out--he was in that club, too!

Imus was one of the wrongheaded fools who had the guts to admit he was WRONG, and he was one of the guys who turned war supporting nitwits around and changed their minds.

But hey--your point is WHAT?

That because he didn't get on the bus soon enough to suit you, that he can't have a ride???

Give me a break. That's a pisspoor attitude for a so-called progressive. It's rigid, asinine, and rather CONSERVATIVE--no changing minds!!! Status quo!!!! You ARE what you ARE, and you can NEVER evolve!!!

If they don't meet YOUR timetable for enlightenment, they're to be forever left in the dark?

Thanks for displaying those true colors so clearly, there!! No quality of mercy in your heart, ever! You're no liberal, not with that attitude.

[NNN0LHI]

62. He also went to Walter Reed with McCain weeks before the story broke of the hell hole that was

Neither Imus or McCain ever mentioned that they noticed anything amiss at WR during their photo-op.

Explain that little discrepancy away.

Don

[MADem]

63. I'd be happy to, there, DON.

When you go to WR as a civilian Distinguished Visitor, the General running the joint meets you at the door, which enters into a magnificent, super high ceilinged lobby, after you stop at the gate and tell the guard there who the fuck you are and why you are visiting--because if you don't have a blue sticker on your car and an ID card, you ain't gettin' in.

The General, and his Public Information Officer (PAO in the USN, but same job), take the distinguished visitors on a very careful, closely monitored, GUIDED tour to specific wards that are clean, tidy and not too crowded. The new Physical Therapy and Rehab center is always a centerpiece of the dog and pony show, because you can always get a load of some poor fucker hopping around on a bionic man prosthesis.

Where these guys were billeted wasn't anywhere NEAR the hospital proper. Wander over to the campus sometime, if you're ever in the DC region--it's on Georgia Avenue right off the beltway. Easy to get to. Lotsa parking in the underground garage if you get there early enough. And can get in. Or know someone who will sign you in.

Christ, you'd have to be a clueless fool with no concept whatsoever to think that anyone and everyone are allowed to meander around the facility unescorted, if they don't have business and access. Don't you realize that area in front of GA Ave is the site of countless demonstrations when they're bringing the wounded in? They're quite vociferous, too.

What were McCain and Imus supposed to do? Blow off the General, hitch up their artificial hips, and make a run for it?

:eyes:

[NNN0LHI]

64. So some General wouldn't let Imus and McCain go where they wanted to go at WR?

Not buying what your selling.

Don

[MADem]

66. Uh, you have knowledge that they specifically asked to see Mologne House?

Or any billeting? Because that's where the PROBLEMS were.

Do you know how much fucking billeting is on that campus?

I'm not buying what you're PUSHING...because you aren't making a sale at all.

You're making assertions with no knowledge.

I can't see why a Senator and a radio jock would want to go look at barracks rooms. They are pretty much the same at any military facility--bed, locker, desk, tv, crappers. Some fancier than others. How would that advance their appreciation of what the wounded were enduring?

They went there to see patients in BEDS--in the WARDS--and there was nothing wrong with the wards.

But I'm thinking maybe you don't have a clear understanding of what the problems were, there. Sure looks that way, since you seem to think they should have been doing barracks inspections....

:eyes:

[madokie]

10. one thing I can say for don imus is that upon the news about walter reed

and the deplorable conditions he was saying on air and not just once or twice but for several days that cheney needed to be hung and bush* needed to be impeached, I may have gotten that bassackwards, ok. I still think that is what done him in and the Rutgers girls were used as a tool for that end. :tinfoilhat:

[MADem]

16. I agree. He only started to get shit for that lame old schtick after he started opposing the war.NT

[madokie]

30. I said to my wife the first day I heard him say cheney* needs to be hung

and bush* needs to be impeached I wonder how long he'll last after this gaff, well it wasn't long. If he comes back and he has a show where I could listen or watch I think I would have to give it a shot and see if I could stomach it and for the above mentioned reason if for nothing else.

[madinmaryland]

11. You miss his love fests with Joe Lieberman?

:hide:

[redqueen]

21. Apparently some are a-ok with that.

Weird, huh?

[MADem]

29. Oooh, REDQUEEN is trying to insinuate that I'm a LIEBERMAN LOVER, in a childish way!

That I'm "OK" with that. RQ is plainly incable of NUANCE and complex thinking, and/or RQ's MAAAAD at me because I pointed out that he-she had some facts wrong, so he-she's responding to your query with what is perceived as a GREAT BIG DU INSULT (oooh, LIEBERMAN LOVER!!!) that was directed at me to make a rather immature point! Let's all enjoy the snark, now!

But to answer your question seriously:

Actually, I did enjoy those exchanges with Holy Joe, because they showed the guy to be exactly what he is. By his own words we came to know him.

How are you going to understand someone unless they speak, and they speak in what they feel is a safe venue?

I also enjoyed his exchanges with John Kerry, Harold Ford, Bill Richardson, and even the GOP asswipes. I liked the variety of pundits he had on his show, even when I didn't agree with them. He sometimes brought a good book or two to the nation's attention. It beat the hell outta Cuppa Joe, the RNC stooge, on MSNBC now.

[redqueen]

34. "he-she"

Wow.

[MADem]

37. I don't know your GENDER--- WOW!!! I don't have one of those magic computers

where that sort of information is revealed.

But then, you're LOOKING for another meaning, and spoiling for a fight. What you're doing is close to trolling, and it it very unattractive!

:rofl:

[redqueen]

40. "he-she" is not even close to "he/she"

Nuace, remember.

[MADem]

41. Bwahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! A punctuation NAZI....

Yep, I said it--Nazi.

My definition in this instance, that I have developed JUST FOR YOU, is this: An asshole nitpicker who takes an innocent item and makes a very large mountain out of a nonexistent molehill, for purposes of being a childish pain in the ass, because said person has no life and has to vent his, or her, rage and frustration on an internet message board in order to make himself, OR herself, feel good about HIM, or HER self!!!

Keep trolling, there pal!! You're pathetic. :rofl:

[redqueen]

45. Punctuation affects meaning.

I did not assume that you were sincerely unaware of how significantly... (notice how I didn't use the loaded term "ignorant").

In that case, you were being less intentionally nasty... so... good for you.

[madinmaryland]

47. Did I miss something?

If I could have understood what Imus was mumbling about when he "interviewed" people, I might have enjoyed it. 10 years ago when Lieberman was still "normal" he was interesting to listen to. The last few times he was on he was just spouting Bush's talking points.

I am not implying you are a Lieberman lover. I actually did vote for Lieberman twice (once for VP and once for Senator in 2000 when he ran against Phil Giordano - look him up!!1!!)

Lieberman did cause me to vote republic once (for Weiker in 88)

I much preferred his replacement on our local progressive station (Rachel Maddow, who has been replaced by Bill Press - also an improvement over imus)

[MADem]

53. That's not true

If the last time he was on, he was spouting Bush's talking points, they include:

Bush is a war criminal.
Bush and Cheney should be hanged.
Cheney likes to shoot lawyers.
The Iraq war is WRONG.
Too many kids have died.
Walter Reed is a (expletive deleted) disgrace.

And that's just for starters.

Don't believe me. Check his transcripts. He did anything BUT spout the RNC/GOP party lines. I swear, that's why he got fired. The offense, of which he was plainly guilty, was just an excuse. Truth is, he offended all the time, and no one ever cared before he started getting really rough on the GOP. But that certainly gave them valid justification for getting rid of a thorn in the GOP side. Of course, they could have used his sin as a teaching opportunity, too. But they wanted him shut up.

His interviews were great, because they were NOT about him. He asked substantive questions, and pulled surprising answers out of people, both left and right. He's a good interviewer. He's NOT a liberal, though, any more than he's a conservative. He's one of those people in the great mushy middle who represent the majority of the electorate. He's tacking leftward the older he gets, under the influence of his wife, who's very environmentally conscious. But he isn't a liberal, and he never will be. But that doesn't make him a GOP cheerleader, either.

I didn't know any progressive stations even carried him. I thought he was in the CBS/Infinity universe, with that side deal from MSNBC.

Now he's over at WABC, they say, starting in DEC. ABC is a GOP-ish outfit, but I think they are trending left because they see what way the wind is blowing. CBS, ironically, is trending right. Walter Cronkite has gotta be irritated....

A few links:
IMUS re: WALTER REED:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIokMeSNNWA

Keep in mind, he is NO FRIEND to 'liberals' either, but here's one of the
WAR CRIMINAL remarks (with CSPAN comments, as well):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMz6TDZT-O0

This is the kind of discussion I got a kick out of
(Listen to Tweety drop the F bomb):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFIMonio9yc&mode=related&search=

And this one, on the Saddam hanging and who else should be hanged:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3lEtqYUnsE

I always tell people to vote with their remote when they don't like what they're hearing/seeing. I just don't like General Electric, Top Ten Pentagon Contractor and owner of GE-MSNBC, doing my voting FOR me.

[madinmaryland]

55. Whoa! I was referring to Lieberman, NOT Imus.

Imus said he was voting for Kerry, IIRC.

[MADem]

58. Whoops, sorry, I misunderstood! My bad! nt

[Stinky The Clown]

46. Uh ..... nooooo.

I also don't miss racism-as-humor.

[madinmaryland]

48. I was really pleased when WWRC-1260 dumped him a couple of years ago!

Both Rachel Maddow and now Bill Press are a HUGH improvement.

[Stinky The Clown]

51. My only compaint about 1260 is their signal strength

I get better signal out of my bluetooth mouse! :)

[madinmaryland]

57. I can generally get it up to about I-70 during the day.

At night, its completely gone, unless you are with a few feet of their transmitter!

[Beelzebud]

24. Imus and Kramer in the Morning

Hell just get it over with and go full out. Then they could have David Duke on there as a corespondent.

[redqueen]

26. Seems there are some here who agree with Pat.

:shrug:

[ProSense]

28. Is Limbaugh off the air yet? n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

49. I'm sure his fans here on DU are ecstatic.

[walldude]

50. Imus's sense of humor requires him to make jokes at

someones else's expense. I have never found this type of humor funny I'm more the "shared experience" humor kind of guy. Now mind you certain people are asking to be made fun of, politicians and celebs for example, but Imus also uses race as a criteria for determining who he makes fun of. I couldn't stand to listen to him before and I won't be tuning in after. I don't care what his politics are.

I do love how your thread got hijacked for a cat fight though.. Go DU! :eyes:

[redqueen]

54. Cat fight?

Jesus christ... :eyes: indeed.

[in_cog_ni_to]

60. I will never, for the life of me, understand why MSNBC uses one of the most bigoted people in this

country as one of their talking heads! Of course he's going to defend Imus' racist remarks! PAT BUCHANAN IS A RACIST HIMSELF! Why is he even allowed on the air? It's disgusting how acceptable racism has become in this country. It makes me sick.:grr: Tweety also acts like he just adores the man.

Imus should never be allowed on the airwaves again! WTF?

[Imagevision]

65. Fuck Imus, he's a racist!!!