Gore's disdain for politics is truly justifiable, BUT-

[stlsaxman]

Gore: "Politics requires tolerance for triviality, artifice and nonsense I have found in short supply."- quote sited in the NYT: The Trivial Pursuit By BOB HERBERT
Published: October 13, 2007


Well, MY level of tolerance for triviality, artifice and nonsense is NONEXISTENT!

I can tolerate it no longer. "We The People" can no longer survive like this.

American democracy is at a tipping point. Maybe we've passed it, hopefully it is recoverable. All I know is none of the current candidates are addressing the issues that matter with the same force, understanding and clarity that I see/hear coming from Al Gore.

Yes- the Earths climate is at a tipping point. Gore has made major strides toward changing millions of individuals awareness and lifestyles. This work is underway. Change is happening on a personal level all over the world. Despite resistance, derision and outright mocking of environmental consciousness from the corporate media, people have changed and more are changing still.

Al Gore is solely responsible for this. To a person, everyone acknowledges it.

Gore must be aware that he can lead in much the same way to solving the constitutional crisis facing our nation. With his book "The Assault On Reason" he has spelled out in detail the dangers We The People face today and given us solutions. TAOR ends with hope and a clarion call to the reader to work toward restoring our blessed democracy.

With this book, and through his speaking engagements, Gore IS making strides toward changing individuals awareness of what we have long suspected- "that something has gone terribly wrong". And again- this work is underway. Awareness is happening on a personal level all over America. Despite resistance, derision and outright mocking of Gore from the corporate media, people are waking up and more are waking daily. But awakening to what- looking into an abyss?

Just as the Earth needed an individual to take the reins and steer it away from the brink, America needs a leader who will stand for The Constitution and redeem our once great nation in the eyes of the world. Looking at the current list of declared democrats, I fail to see one that fits this description.

Certainly, the Democratic Party will win the presidency in 2008... but will We The People?

stlsaxman

if you think Al Gore should run, please visit www.draftgore.com and sign the petition along with over 200,000 other like minded voters!

[Milo_Bloom]

1. K&R

[truedelphi]

2. He said he's NOT GOING TO RUN.

I think that there is a better chance that in the next four months BUsh will go off his meds, realize the harm he's done, and try to make amends.

There's also the Wellstone factor - it's been pointed out by some that Cheney told Wellstone to change his mind about the IWR, or ELSE, and when Wellstone didn't change his mind, he, his wife and his daughter, a staffer and two pilots were killed in a plane crash.

That sort of malfeasance was a message. Don't you think it possible that Al has a "kind little note" from Dick suggesting he avoid running?

[stlsaxman]

3. Maybe Kerry got the same "note" about contesting the 2004 election...

who knows?

:shrug:

[renie408]

4. Dick's going to have to send notes to ALL the Dem candidates if he wants

a Republican in the WH in '09.

[Riktor]

5. How about a slightly more realistic explanation...

Civilians are not bound by the rules, regulations, and formalities of public office. I'm confident Gore, like Carter, will be more influential as a civilian than he ever was as a politician. Chances are, Gore has taken a liking not being beholden to the DNC, his campaign contributors, or public opinion polls.

He ain't comin' back, folks and, frankly, I think that's a damed good thing. He's on a roll, let him ride it out to its logical conclusion.

[jedr]

10. Spot on!

Let Fox and Rush rail on about him, public opinion by the gullible 30% mean little when you have raised the money and made the connections to get the job done.

[bhikkhu]

23. My thoughts exactly.

Much as I would like to see him in the presidency, I would also have to say - perhaps he is right, and the presidency is not the most important role, or the most effective role, for one who wishes to make a real difference.

[Fly by night]

6. Ah, bullshit.

Run, Al, run.

The only message that will be sent and received is the one at the ballot box in November, '08 (up and down the ticket) that will sweep the Repuke flying monkey minions back under the slimy rock from which they slithered.

If you think anyone has been threatened with bodily harm (to himself or his family) to stay out of politics, call the cops, would you? Otherwise, put that kool-aid back in the refrigerator. Thanks kindly.

[mopinko]

7. no candidate has ever

said they were running before they were prepared to announce that they were running. al knows very well what a sherman statement is, and if he wasn't thinking about it, he would have made one. he also probably would have endorsed someone else by now.

[kster]

Why do you keep saying that

its like a thread of hope, and you keep smashing it, this thread does not hurt anyone whether Al Gore runs or not. :shrug:

[truedelphi]

20. But it's true. Wish it wasn't but it's true.

I wish the election of 2004 had not been stolen - it took me three days of no sleep, cold coffee and cigs to write that it had been stolen for the deadline of Dec 29th 2004. (And I don't even smoke!)

That was a far more hope destroying statement to write.

I hate destroying rays of hope.

But reality is best dealt with early on.

(And kster, if I'm, wrong about Gore, I'll buy you lunch for a week! Perhaps I'll even arrange that you eat your lunch and sip your wine at the Tholos temple, on the slopes of Parnassus. Believe me, I would love to be wrong about this.)

[kster]

22. Why don't we just go to lunch

no matter who is right, I am not going to go to Greece.

I hope you are wrong, but it won't be the end of my world if you are right. :)

[truedelphi]

25. You're on! n/t

[kster]

9. Why do you keep saying that

its like a thread of hope, and you keep smashing it, this thread does not hurt anyone whether Al Gore runs or not. :shrug:

[truedelphi]

21. BTW I got this in my email box one day

"It was well known that Paul Wellstone was called into
>Cheney's office before the vote on Iraq and Cheney told him
>that "grave consequences" would come to him if he voted
>against it. Wellstone voted against it and later, him and his
>whole family were killed in a plane accident. All of DC was
>freaked out, knowing it could have been any of them. This is
>deadly stuff here.
>
>Back in the 90's, Ross Perot was gaining too much speed on his
>presidential campaign. So Bush Sr. and Clinton tried laughing
>him off, but the public loved his brains and plans to fix our
>economy. As he was working his way ahead, all the sudden, he
>dropped out of the campaign. Months later, in an interview, he
>said that he was receiving calls from the White House
>threatening his family. People just blew it off, but I
>understood why he backed out.
>
>Now you look at all the senators and congress members selling
>out their souls / ideals for the benefit of the crooks in the
>White House. It doesn't make sense at all until you put
>together these two known stories of physical threats together
>with the many stories of sex parties, drugs, cameras and
>heavyduty blackmail. Don't forget how our media can get Joe
>Public all worked up about anything it wants, even who the
>father is of Anna Nichol-Smith's baby. Get a picture out or a
>stained blue dress and the media can manipulate us like no one
>ever realizes, keeping these creeps stronger and our devoted
>politicians, even our closest ally, John Conyers, at their
>mercy.


The theory of threat explains with crystal clarity why Gore and perhaps Kerry were so complacent about backing down. I don't know why people would not consider it. KERRY's PLANE WAS NOT TAKEN OUT BY THE WEATHER! IT WAS IN GREAT SHAPE AND ADD TWO PILOTS AT ITS CONTROLS. ELECTRO MAGNETIC PHENOMENON were observed duing the same time period that the plane suddenly,inexplicably lost power. (SOmeone in the area noted that their garage door went up and down on its own several times.) None of the supposed excuses for the crash make sense. If they hit a flock of birds, they would do what every team of pilots, co-pilots do when they are a short distance from a runway - they would have radioed in with "We have hit some birds and are losing altitude. Holy F&*king BLEEP! We are not gonna make it."

But they never radioed in. Why was their radio/instrumentation gone in the final moments of their flight? Why did the plane burn for a much longer time than reasonable for a small private plane. Etc.

[RestoreGore]

8. Gee, if you are all so sure he is going to run you wouldn't need to keep selling this

And he wrote The Assault On Reason to get people out of their seats, not as a reason to use it to push him. But far be it for people in this country to ever see the true meaning when it comes to them actually standing up for change.

[JTFrog]

11. I can't hear you from up there

on your pedestal. Were you saying something to us down here?

[stlsaxman]

12. Did you even READ my opening post?

I have read TAOR... twice! I am helping to get people out of their seat. Everyone I talk to about the current list of declared candidates expresses the same dismay- "why even bother?" they say... they feel as powerless as I do. "These people don't represent me"... and they are correct!

but if i mention Al Gore....

aawww fuck it- you're a hope killer... i should have kept you on ignore.

Goodbye.

[RestoreGore]

13. You just missed my entire point

And I have great hope with him as a global leader having the clout to influence policy worldwide. So sad so many have such a myopic view of his abilities and are so obsessed with a presidency of a bought and sold system that in my view will not be able to now do much to stop what has already begun regarding the effects of this crisis. If we all stopped spewing Co2 today, this crisis would still be exacerbated... that means that solutions can only be implemented and enforced on a GLOBAL level with cooperation by governments at the demand of citizens. ONE country alone is not going to make much of a dent in this now. So I have great hope that in Bali this December, that Nobel laureate Al Gore will be an integral part of the solutions coming forward on a worldwide scale. Hope killer? You call ME a hope killer? I'm not the one treating him as if his work out here is meaningless. And standing up doesn't mean just talking about candidates, so again you missed my point so maybe it is best you do ignore me.

[stlsaxman]

14. The OP addresses the constitutional crisis, NOT the climate crisis.

Yes- his work on the climate crisis is important. But along with America being faced with the climate crisis, we are also faced with a Supreme Executive, civil liberties being obliterated, our sacred vote all but worthless, private mercenary armies in New Orleans, the powerful accountable to no one. We are no longer a nation of laws. Warrantless wiretapping of citizens, extraordinary rendition on the presidents word alone, no habeas corpus, multinational corporations writing legislation signed into law by the executive in secret...

it's getting bad HERE!

Agreed: let's put each other on ignore. that way my posts won't annoy you and you won't feel obliged to trash any hope i might express about someone running for president who is actually capable of dealing with the horrible mess this nation is in.

[RestoreGore]

18. Well of course it doesn't address the climate crisis

Because that really isn't the focus of the usuals here, even though in The Assault On Reason which you claimed to have read twice, Al Gore does an excellent job of corrolating the climate crisis to the constitutional/Democracy crisis of our making that we now face because they are related. And I don't put anyone on ignore. I'm not afraid to read opinions and respond to them just because they disagree with mine. Many have put this country and this environment on ignore for too long now. Oh, and a reality tip for you: ONE person regardless of who they may be is not going to be able to do anything alone to change the mess this nation is in, especially from the very same system that messed it up, without our intervention from out here first...which he is now working on from what I see.

[JTFrog]

15. "So sad so many have such a myopic view of his abilities"

Woah. Pot. Kettle. Black.

[RestoreGore]

17. Still following me around?

Good.

[JTFrog]

19. Nope. Still read all the Gore threads.

You really are full of yourself. Nice pedestal.

[JTFrog]

16. "And standing up doesn't mean just talking"

I can't hear you from up there on your pedestal. Were you saying something to us down here?

[MedleyMisty]

24. I was reading through his blog.

Check out some quotes from this entry.

http://blog.algore.com/2007/07/

"But individual action will also have to shape and drive government action.
Here Americans have a special responsibility. Throughout most of our short
history, the United States and the American people have provided moral
leadership for the world. Establishing the Bill of Rights, framing democracy
in the Constitution, defeating fascism in World War II, toppling Communism
and landing on the moon — all were the result of American leadership.

Once again, Americans must come together and direct our government to take
on a global challenge. American leadership is a precondition for success.

Therefore, just as President Reagan renamed and modified the SALT agreement
(calling it Start), after belatedly recognizing the need for it, our next
president must immediately focus on quickly concluding a new and even
tougher climate change pact. We should aim to complete this global treaty by
the end of 2009 — and not wait until 2012 as currently planned."

Gotta say - it doesn't sound like he thinks that the president can't do anything about global warming or that the US is not important to global efforts on climate change.

[Uncle Joe]

26. Thanks for the thread, stlsaxman,

sorry I missed it, too late to recommend.

[stlsaxman]

28. you're welcome, Uncle Joe...

i just wish it hadn't been hijacked.

thanks for reading and "woulda recommended"ing!

:hi:

[Swamp Rat]

27. NeoGore is "The One!"

I just had to say it again. :D