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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:02 PM
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Destruction of Evidence - Ohio's 2004 Pres. Ballots - "Letters from the edge" Scoop/Collins

Link:http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0710/S00300.htm

Destruction of Evidence – Ohio’s 2004 Ballots


Saturday, 20 October 2007, 12:24 pm
Opinion: Michael Collins



“Letters from the Edge” - Part 1


By Michael Collins
“Scoop” Independent News
Washington, D.C.

“Overall this blatant destruction of evidence only reinforces the widespread belief that the 2004 election was stolen.”

Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, Free Press August 2, 2007

The 2004 presidential election was mired in controversy all over the country. Candidate Kerry’s legion of volunteer lawyers was ready to fight anticipated election fraud. Serious challenges were defused when Kerry conceded the election in the early morning of November 3, 2004. Failing to recognize that candidates cannot concede the votes of citizens, the news media and political parties called it a night.

Ohio was ground zero for charges of election fraud. These are ably detailed in several articles and won’t be repeated here. One post election event is worth mentioning. The March 13, 2007 Toledo Blade ran this headline at the end of a major trial in Cleveland:

2 election workers get 18 months for rigging presidential recount.

The tale of the lost ballots and destroyed evidence begins with a law suit brought by citizens against Ohio officials: King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association (KLBNA) v. Blackwell. The suit charges Blackwell and other Ohio officials with: “election fraud, vote dilution, vote suppression, recount fraud and other violations.”

SNIP

The presiding judge in the case, Algenon L. Marbley, issued a court order on September 6, 2006 extending the retention requirements for an additional 12 months. Blackwell was instructed to distribute the order to Ohio’s boards of elections.

The Judge then ordered that the ballots be turned over to the new Secretary of State, Democrat Jennifer Brunner on April 7, 2007. Brunner sent a request out for the ballot evidence two days later.

When the Ohio Secretary of State sent requests for delivery of the ballots, 56 of Ohio’s 88 counties replied that they no longer had some or all of the ballots requested. Only 41 bothered to provide an explanatory letter as to the missing ballots. Fifteen counties offered no reason at all for noncompliance. Counties failing to return complete sets of ballots accounted for a majority of Ohio’s 2004 presidential votes.

Through the Secretary of State, a federal judge, and the lead attorney in a law suit, the 88 counties received multiple notices that they were to retain all ballots from the 2004 election for federal office, president in particular, for at least 22 months and after that “until such time as otherwise instructed by the court.”

********

But look what happened.

Destruction of Ballot Evidence

SNIP

The first letter in the collection is from the Ashtabula County Prosecuting Attorney. Why would the prosecuting attorney write this letter when all the other explanatory letters were written by election board members? Perhaps someone in that county understood the gravity of destruction of evidence and the penalties involved.

Unfortunately, the actual ballot cards were inadvertently discarded and destroyed by the Ashtabula County Board of Elections just prior to the receipt by the Board of Judge Marbley’s Order and subsequent directive to your office.

Thomas Sartini, Prosecuting Attorney, Ashtabula County Apr. 16, 2007

There is a clear intent to use the term inadvertently or somehow imply unintentional destruction of ballots in many of the letters. Webster’s defines inadvertent as: 1: not focusing the mind on a matter: inattentive. 2: unintentional.

In Athens County, for example, the board said “they feel that these unvoted ballots were inadvertently discarded.” These must have been very special feelings since they were powerful enough to intuit inadvertent discarding of ballot evidence. No further explanation was offered.
On April 11, 2007, Clermont said that they didn’t know where the ballot evidence was but that “no one remembers specifically discarding the ballots.”

SNIP

Cuyahoga County, population 1.3 million, was unable to determine how many unvoted ballots it had in its possession. It took records for “ballots ordered” for 2004 and subtracted the total ballots cast, assuming the difference was sufficient instead of actually counting the unused ballots.



The unused ballots are of grave importance for Cuyahoga. The county was the site of a wide range of election problems. One would think they’d want to explain why they needed 1,135,265 ballots for 1,007,187 registered voters when turnout is rarely exceeds 60%. That’s a lot of extra ballots floating around in a county that produced a “rigged” presidential recount. There were several other counties with large quantities of extra ballots.

Cuyahoga County acting elections director Jane Platten was so concerned about the state of the ballots delivered that she amended her certification statement to the Secretary of State.


http://freepress.org/ballot/BOE.pdf">Statement of Jill Platten, April 17, 2007 Full Collection of Letters and Reports, (p. 223)

Platten wrote in an email regarding the issue on April 17, 2007: “I did not know the chain of custody and storage of those ballots since the November 2004 election. None of the persons responsible for those ballots … work at the BOE any longer.” (Full Collection, p. 225) Did those persons cease to exist altogether? Surely they could have been reached by phone, paid a visit, or asked for a sworn statement or deposition. Was any such effort made? Apparently not.
Reaction by Ohio’s Secretary of State and Attorney General

Both Attorney General Dann and Secretary of State Brunner made clear promises to pursue 2004 election fraud investigations during their campaigns. Their words on this subject are well documented. Once elected and faced with the massive destruction of evidence from the 2004 election, they may have experienced an inadvertent memory lapse.

2006 general election winner, Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner (D), was quick to respond to the destruction of evidence. The http://tinyurl.com/yqslen}Cincinnati Enquirer] of August 11, 2007 reported Brunner’s remarks: “If I had evidence of a cover-up, I would investigate. For me, the bigger question in 2004 was how many people were prevented from voting (something) you can’t quantify?” Attorney General Marc Dann (D), also elected in 2006, responded quickly by seconding Brunner’s position. So much for campaign promises.

While the two Democratic officials were quick to absolve those who destroyed evidence, both have refused to meet with voting rights activists[/b> to receive and discuss extensive data and analysis that supports election fraud in the 2004 presidential election.

SNIP

All counties had a responsibility to know and obey federal law and the court order. All counties had a responsibility to store safely and with care all of the 2004 ballots and any other ballots they had in their possession. All counties had a responsibility to have a chain of custody procedure in place to assure that the ballots stored could be accounted for as the original set from the election. This is standard operating procedure for any organization. Why wasn’t this done?

Will there be justice and accountability? Will the possible theft of a presidential election cause the newly elected Secretary of State and Attorney General to reconsider their quick dismissal of destruction of election evidence? Will the federal courts take note and provide a consequence for those who inadvertently or intentionally destroyed evidence?

“America has been robbed of its history here. The public has a right to know the true outcome of the 2004 election, and to have its laws about preservation of critical records honored.”
Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, http://tinyurl.com/2a5j2b}Free Press> August 2, 2007

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:10 PM
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1. K&R
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:27 PM
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2. "Inadvertently discarded and destroyed'", my ass. After the 2000 fiasco it is
almost impossible to believe they did not know enough to not destroy those ballots.

'Inadvertent' things sure happen quite often to repube shills.

Great article Michael. :patriot::hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:46 PM
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3. Consistent, aren't they.
Inadvertently so;)

:hi:

Thaks!
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:55 PM
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4. As consistent as cockroaches,
no offense to roaches.

Welcome! :hi:
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:59 PM
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5. Please stay out of dark alley-ways Mike,
Darth is very unhappy with you spreading truth. You once again bring light to the shadows however. In other words...

You f'n rock sir! K & R
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:19 PM
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7. ...and I won't fly commercial either;)
Thanks. What a saga of truth the folks in Ohio live. They are the toughest bunch of people I've ever met because they've had to fight true fascism in the form of the Blackwell-Taft cabal. Imho, Blackwell is the operational brains behind all of the garbage that went on, very smart guy, but so wrong he's right wing in the extreme. But then it's our chance to get some justice and...poof, it's another blown opportunity. That's OK. There's a judge in the case who still has a lot of power and he may be really pissed off that his order was so openly defied. I'm personally sending him a copy of this article.

:hi:
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kelliebrat Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:03 PM
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6. Great article
Ya think the MSM will report on it?:rofl: :rofl:

Thanks for posting it. It's an interesting read....
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:45 PM
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9. You're too kind!
MSM, oh yeah. They've left several messages and I haven't had a chance to get back.

:sarcasm:

Mr. DeMille wants me on the set at 6 am but I'm sure I'll talk to them right after that.
They'll make a big deal about it in all the Sunday editions.
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kelliebrat Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 01:15 AM
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14. This....
MSM, oh yeah. They've left several messages and I haven't had a chance to get back.


Made me LAUGH! :rofl:

I'll be looking for ya sunday!

:rofl:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:36 PM
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8. k&r
:grr:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:47 PM
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10. Recommended!!
Thank you,
Bob
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:56 PM
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11. Hello!
Edited on Fri Oct-19-07 10:56 PM by autorank
You are welcome,
Mike

What a mess we're in.

Letting a bunch of "public servants" thumb their nose at laws like preserving ballots in federal code,
destruction of evidence, and when more than one of them admit participation in this pack of
unbelievable excuses, conspiracy to commit the first two crimes. Right now, there is no federal
election code enforced. This doesn't require a 160 IQ. These people broke the law, through intent or
through negligence or through ignorance...they broke the law and allowed the theft of an election to go
undiscovered.

But some kid who jacks a $300.00 car stereo gets a felony charge and loses his right to vote...forever.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:23 PM
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12. "What a mess we're in." In_deed. But, at least we know it and are ...
... not going to stop until the situtation is repaired.

Peace,
Bob

:hi:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:39 PM
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13. Done It Again
K & R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 04:07 AM
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15. K&R&Hello.
Ihaven't read” it all yet,Ibut have it bookmarked. Are you passingcode here, or what?

Thank you MC MC.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:51 AM
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16. Did you make fresh coffee ?
Since the other pot fell off the shelf...


Auto, wtf is this?

Ohio’s

won’t

county that produced a “rigged” presidential recount.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:38 PM
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17. Steve Harsman: We ran out of space to retain materials
8/2/07 Director Steve Harsman's in Montgomery County, Ohio
"We literally ran out of space to prepare, stage, and retain material for these elections. It was imperative that we process the 2004 materials for destruction under the guidelines of the 22-month retention."
http://freepress.org/departments/display/19/2007/2730

10/25/04 Steve Harsman, the Democratic deputy director of the Montgomery County Board of Elections
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A62645-2004Oct25?language=printer


It's odd to me that Harsman, a Democrat, did not comply to save the ballots. Apparently, there was not enough space to retain the materials. For the next election, it is imperative to instruct all Boards of Elections to make the room to store and retain the ballots indefinitely

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 04:58 PM
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19. We ran out of space so we'll destroy the very reason we're here.
Don't you love these guys, they belong before a judge at trial for this stunt!

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 04:56 PM
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18. Kick. (nt)
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:58 PM
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20. Autorank: what's the "scoop" about Brunner and Dann?
They both ran on an election integrity platform (and likely won because of it), they are in a position to uncover and prosecute hundreds of Ohio officials for election fraud -- an act that would finally blow the lid off the entire 2004 Presidential election theft -- and, instead, they punt on first down?

WTF?

Do you, or Wasserman and Fitrakis, have any explanation for their behavior?

Is Ohio really that corrupt? Do Ohio Dems really have no brains ... or balls?

I have a new slogan for Ohio's license plates:

OHIO: THE ELECTION FUBAR STATE.
WHERE REPUBLICANS ARE REPUBLICANS ... AND DEMOCRATS ARE TOO.



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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:17 PM
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21. Why the silence instead of outrage from Dem Leadership? Seriously, why?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:36 PM
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23. I was just thinking about that myself.
When Gore was on qa Tv show maybe two months back, the host (maybe Jon Stewart) mentioned how this was the man that should have been the 2000 pResident of the USA.

And Gore beamed. He absolutely beamed.

Gore's mission is that of climate change. A profound and obviously noble effort. Undaunted by the critics on the right, he speaks out.

Yet why the closed lips about the stolen election? Why no research from him on the stolen-ness of the past two Presidential elections. In fact, not a single word!!

Was the Wellstone plane crash a message whose full import Al Gore, who is as much a family man as Wellstone, was received and noted and responded to by his vast silence on a subject of such importance?

Some two or three weeks prior to the crash, Wellstone was told by Dick Cheney to change his mind on the IWR "or else"

He didn't change his mind. There was indeed "an else"
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:31 PM
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22. The enclosed statement - Yowzer!
"Cuyahoga County acting elections director Jane Platten was so concerned about the state of the ballots delivered that she amended her certification statement to the Secretary of State."

And in an article posted some two or three weeks after the election, this discrepancy was found in nearby Cuyahoga Heights -
570 registered voters / 1,382 ballots cast (Article by Ted Rockwell of Sonoma State Univ)

Sort of funny how the unexplainable discrepancies never once, not even ONCE - helped Kerry
but always helped Bush.
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