First sick kids, now the poor elderly. This is a TEACHING MOMENT from Tyrants.

[tom_paine]

(aren't they all?)

If you do not know what I am talking about, click this link please - http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071019/pl_nm/poor_usa_winter_dc_1

They are showing us, unequivocally and without question, that much or all of the ideals of the Old American Republic are vanished or vanishing. The old nation, with it's old ways of thinking, is dying or dead.

S-CHIP and LIHEAP upcoming are brutal object exercises in the Bushie's control not only over the Imperial Congress and Courts, but over reality itself.

Cut off sick kids? Let the impoverished elderly freeze into popsicles or die while trading medications for heat? Remember when overtly acting like Simon fucking Legree might have some consequences attached to it?

The Bushies are telling us, again and again and AGAIN until we get it through our thick peasant's skulls...THEY DON'T NEED US TO 'CONSENT' to what they do, not like Old America.

And Old America is dead, they are telling us. Reality, as it was in Nazi Germany for a time, is dead. Reality is what the BushMedia and the toadying MSM trailing behind them say it is.

And what they say no longer has any bearing on what is happening, for the most part.

This is a brutal teaching moment, people, as was the escalation "surge" which will murder and maim thousands more of our sons and daighters, brothers and sisters, neighbors and friends, not to mention innocent Iraqis.

We DARED to vote against the Bushies last November? So they threw more of us in the meat grinder to die. It really is as simple as that, I am astonished to say.

Cartoon Villainy. THAT is what we face. And we are being taught, inch by brutal inch and blow by brutal blow...insult-to-the-intelligence by insult-to-the-intelligence, is that the old ways of thinking and being are gone. GONE.

We are BushPutinist Subjects now, and IF we are LUCKY, we might get a short break between 2009-12 to catch our breath before the next brutal series of BushPutinist Shifts occurs again.

[acmavm]

1. Compassionate conservatives at work. Have money for war. Can't

help people fight off the cold. Or hunger. Or illness. Or homelessness.

Dirtiest word in the English language? Republican.

[SoCalDem]

2. Here's the deal..

There is a finite supply of spendable money. If the emperor gives the money away to poor people who will waste it by heating their homes, by buying food, or by taking a kid to a doctor, the money is "wasted"...never to be recycled though governmental hands.

BUT


if that same money is given to military contractors or corporate cronies, it eventually ends up in the campaign coffers of the legislators who appropriate it..


It's like having a cupboard or freezer full of food.. It's comforting to have it there, but as soon as you start cooking & eating it, the supply dwindles and eventually "goes away"..

Money spent on services and food is money NOT available to spend on toys & wars..

now do you "get it"?

and those poor folks have no real lobby to fight against it, and they are not all that organized..and even if they were, they have no voice in the media ..

[tom_paine]

8. Oh my yes, I GET IT. Making the pie higher, concentrating all that money

in higher, tighter, and righter hands, to quoth GHW Bush.

[northofdenali]

11. No shit, my dear friend -

The ONLY reason my 91 year old mother is glad she's in Florida? She doesn't have to worry too hard about paying for her heat this winter.

Sick bunch of bastards, and almost all of them - very, very few exceptions - are corrupt and in the clutches of big oil and it's hangers-on (VECO, Halliburton, et al) OR the "Religious" (HAH) right.

Does anyone remember the stories back in the Ronny Rayguns era of old folks having to eat pet food to stay alive? I have SEEN that.

Disgusting. And we're the ones wearing targets, while they've got on full body armor.


SoCalDem!
:hi::hug::loveya: friend! :loveya::hug::hi:

There actually was a "joke" club up here for Uncle Ted, his widdle boy Ben, Bill Allen (VECO), Don Young, and their cohorts in crime called the "Corrupt Bastards Club". They had hats, tshirts and the like. And people thought they were just kidding.................



What many people are finally figuring out is this - there isn't a comedian in the whole bunch.

[bobbolink]

14. "and those poor folks have no real lobby to fight against it,"

And there is the truth, right there.

It's what the Dems USED to do.

Lobby for poor folk.

It's no longer sexy.

[Cleita]

15. Some of us DUers are talking behind the scenes about getting

a lobby of those of us who are more fortunate to fight for them. They really do need a coalition for the poor and homeless people of America, but since they have no resources, it's up to those of us who are still a couple of rungs up on the ladder to organize it.

[indepat]

21. Resulting in nondiscriminatory fuckin' of the poor/helpless, be they infants, the aged,

the infirmed, the blind, or the lame.

[NMMNG]

3. You're poor? Too effing bad!

So sayeth the Republicans. They have much more important things to worry about, like killing foreigners and stealing their oil. Who needs poor people anyway? They're just a burden anyway. :sarcasm:

[Mandate My Ass]

4. I know you've read Luttwak's work

The governed should expect nothing from their tax dollars other than gov't-sponsored propaganda, expensive wars of choice and the police state which keeps them from getting any uppity ideas about human or civil rights.

[Faygo Kid]

5. I'm glad you found this. It is a disaster for the older poor. Here's an excerpt about LIHEAP.

From the article, link at bottom. Let's remember that to fully fund this program would equal the cost of one week in Iraq. And heating oil prices will skyrocket this winter, and many of the poor are the ones who use heating oil.

What the HELL kind of nightmare are we living through in this country?

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 30 million low-income American households who will need help paying heating bills this winter from a U.S. government program will be left in the cold because of a lack of funding for the program.

The poor, already digging deep to pay for expensive gasoline, also will face much higher heating fuel costs, especially if oil prices stay near record levels.

Consumer groups and state energy officials have sounded the alarm, saying a federal program to help poor families pay heating bills will have nowhere near the money needed to cover those expected to seek assistance.

The government's Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, known as LIHEAP, only has enough funding to cover 16 percent of the 38 million poor households eligible for the program.

The current $2.16 billion LIHEAP budget in only $300 million more than what the program had when it was created by Congress in 1981. Despite higher energy costs, the Bush administration has proposed cutting the program's budget. . .

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071019/pl_nm/poor_usa_winter_dc_1

[bobbolink]

16. Then add to that one of the lowest COLAs in recent years....

The feds are claiming that the cost of living increase was LOW this last year.

That would be funny, if it weren't so tragic.

[SoCalDem]

19. COLAs are WHy they "revised' the inflation formula

to exclude energy & food.. That way they can keep the number artificially low so they don;t have to riase COLAs in real numbers:grr:

[bobbolink]

20. Which is why there are more homeless people.

The true figure doesn't keep up, so over the years, people can't afford both housing and other costs.

We've been priced out of *any* housing "market".

:nuke:

[havocmom]

6. If you aren't strong enough to have you labor exploited,

or rich enough to conspicuously consume, they just want you to die.

[Cleita]

7. Since we can't seem to take care of our own, maybe

Hugo Chavez will come through again this winter with heating oil for the poor.

[rodeodance]

9. Bush will veto more funds for heating oil--time to get buzy folks (PLEASE): Contact here:

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Bush will veto more funds for heating oil--time to get buzy folks (PLEASE):
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2097154#2097154
2097154, Bush will veto more funds for heating oil--time to busy buzy folks (PLEASE):
Posted by rodeodance on Sat Oct-20-07 04:06 PM



First it is kids health insurance. and now this. Get busy folks. we got work to do.



Contact your Congress people NOW---DEMS and REpugs! Senators AND Legislators.

Contact at:
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress /

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Bush seeks cut in LIHEAP, threatens veto (dead elderly this winter)
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ...
2092695, Bush seeks cut in LIHEAP, threatens veto (dead elderly this winter)
Posted by usregimechange on Fri Oct-19-07 09:33 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 30 million low-income American households who will need help paying heating bills this winter from a U.S. government program will be left in the cold because of a lack of funding for the program.

The poor, already digging deep to pay for expensive gasoline, also will face much higher heating fuel costs, especially if oil prices stay near record levels.

Consumer groups and state energy officials have sounded the alarm, saying a federal program to help poor families pay heating bills will have nowhere near the money needed to cover those expected to seek assistance...

Still, the administration did not back away from its threat to veto legislation to boost funding for LIHEAP to levels it has called too high.

LIHEAP has an interim annual budget of $2.16 billion, but the White House wants to cut the program to $1.78 billion for the 2008 spending year that began
on October 1.

The House of Representatives has passed legislation to boost the program to $2.66 billion, while a Senate committee has cleared a bill keeping LIHEAP at its current $2.16 billion budget.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071019/pl_nm/poor_usa_wint ...

Tell congress to pass/override or ask FEMA for body bags.

[rodeodance]

10. Contact your Congress people NOW---DEMS and REpugs! HERE

Contact your Congress people NOW---DEMS and REpugs! Senators AND Legislators.

Contact at:
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress /

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Bush seeks cut in LIHEAP, threatens veto (dead elderly this winter)
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph ...
2092695, Bush seeks cut in LIHEAP, threatens veto (dead elderly this winter)
Posted by usregimechange on Fri Oct-19-07 09:33 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - About 30 million low-income American households who will need help paying heating bills this winter from a U.S. government program will be left in the cold because of a lack of funding for the program.

The poor, already digging deep to pay for expensive gasoline, also will face much higher heating fuel costs, especially if oil prices stay near record levels.

Consumer groups and state energy officials have sounded the alarm, saying a federal program to help poor families pay heating bills will have nowhere near the money needed to cover those expected to seek assistance...

Still, the administration did not back away from its threat to veto legislation to boost funding for LIHEAP to levels it has called too high.

LIHEAP has an interim annual budget of $2.16 billion, but the White House wants to cut the program to $1.78 billion for the 2008 spending year that began
on October 1.

The House of Representatives has passed legislation to boost the program to $2.66 billion, while a Senate committee has cleared a bill keeping LIHEAP at its current $2.16 billion budget.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071019/pl_nm/poor_usa_wint ...

Tell congress to pass/override or ask FEMA for body bags.

[bobbolink]

18. Thanks, Rodeodance! I appreciate your reminding people to TAKE ACTION!

This is ever so much more important than "DUing" some 'net poll!

:thumbsup:

[Swamp Rat]

12. Fuck corpofascists and all their GODDAMN SYCOPHANT SUPPORTERS!!!

DEMS, GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND STOP THESE BASTARDS NOW!!!

[bobbolink]

17. "DEMS, GET OFF YOUR ASSES AND STOP THESE BASTARDS NOW!!!"

Thanks, Swamp Rat!

We need ALL DEMS to take action on ALL of this crap, NOW!

We poor folk are suffering and dying..

Thanks...

[VP505]

13. This is

why when we finally get control of the White House and gain more seats in the House and Senate we, the rank and file, have to demand they completely overturn just about everything that the Bu$h Admin has done for the last two terms. Our Dem's better be ready for four years of extreme productivity, working with our President, we the people have to make sure that we hold them to very high standard so they don't get so comfortable they become as corrupt as the Republics. What it comes down to is that we have to do everything to make sure that the Republics don't ever get the same level of power that they have had.