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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 04:49 PM
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War songs through the years
Mine are all associated with the Vietnam War and indeed Bush's madness, but my mum lived in Belgium and England during WWII and she and my dad played all their war songs.

I found this classic with today's clips and wondered how many of these families ever met again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC5P9PmXM5U&mode=related&search=

Here's another of my mum's favourites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HITJoI0HVjM&mode=related&search=


Vietnam War - What's going on - Marvin Gaye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KC7uhMY9s

War- what is it good for - Edwin Star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc&mode=related&search=

Jimmy Cliff - Vietnam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3UaDDvDNvc

Add yours. The only thing I'm sure of is that we've got many Rivers to Cross
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5TH2WoYc0&mode=related&search=
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:31 PM
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1. Here's one of my favourites
Images from at least four wars, the song is about Vietnam, obviously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYJN-_veJ80
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:03 PM
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8. First time I'm hearing this one
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 06:34 PM by malaise
Thanks :D
Australian songs always have a ballad like quality - they remind me a lot of music from Trinidad.
Add
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Esra Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:44 PM
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12. The other gut wrencher that says it all for me is the
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:34 PM
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178. Here's a newer version of this by The Herd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gmgwx77osw

and even though the 80's wasn't known for Vietnam songs, here's one from Paul Hardcastle ( "19" ).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byCCmBwRjGw
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:25 PM
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221. Thanks
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 05:29 PM by malaise
Missed this one. BelgianMadCow posted 19 as well.

Correct.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:32 PM
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2. Not sure if this is really anti-war
but it's definitely Anti-Bush.

(When The President Talks To God)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuyhSE2SUNE

And of course

(Waist Deep In The Big Muddy - Pete Seeger)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjONblHLPPI
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:35 PM
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9. Anti-Bush is anti-war
I will always think of the Dixie Chicks as anti-war.

I hadn't heard those either. Thanks :D
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:34 PM
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3. What's Going On

is my all-time favorite.



Peace:thumbsup:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:37 PM
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10. Yep
a big 70s favourite. There was another great one Black Skin blue eyed boys by the Equals. I lost my only copy of that 45 during Hurricane Gilbert.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:37 PM
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4. The Unkown Soldier
by the Doors was the first anti-war song by a top rock-n-roll group in the 1960s. Jim added some theater to the live versions. I always liked that one.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:44 PM
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11. They used to play some of the Doors
on our radio stations. I don't know much of their music. Clearly I know Jim Morrison. I found their web site - good music in the background.
http://www.thedoors.com/home
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:57 AM
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206. second that :-)
when the windows of perception are cleaned, man will see things as they really are
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:37 PM
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5. Country Joe
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:46 PM
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13. Nice
Those were my New York days.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:51 PM
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6. this one makes my heart
ache.

every time i hear it.

makes me want to find a way to make it stop.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsF_PoDqBaI&mode=related&search=

It was written by Joni Mitchell years ago i believe.
Maynard, does this beautifully, A Perfect Circle.

the Fiddle and the Drum.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:14 AM
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82. Never heard that one before
Songs to make you cry.
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slowry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:54 PM
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7. Arthur McBride
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 05:54 PM by slowry
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:54 PM
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15. I heard that one more than a few times
that's a classic.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:49 PM
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14. BYOB by System of a down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Az7JPZ6ZA

WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?

Barbarisms by Barbaras with pointed heels.
Victorious, victorious, kneel.
For brand new spankin' deals.
Marching forward hypocritic
and hypnotic computers.
You depend on our protection,
Yet you feed us lies from the table cloth.

Lalalalala...ouu...

Everybody’s going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.

kneeling roses disappearing,
into Moses’ dry mouth,
breaking into Fort Knox,
stealing our intentions,
Hangars sitting dripped in oil,
Crying FREEDOM!

Handed to obsoletion,
Still you feed us lies from the table cloth.

Lalalalala...ouu...

Everybody’s going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.
Everybody’s going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.

Blast off, its Party time,
And we don't live in a facist nation,
Blast off, its party time,
And where the fuck are you?
….. Yeah
Where the fuck are you?
Where the fuck are you?

Why don’t presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why don’t presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why do they always send the poor?
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS SEND THE POOR?

Kneeling roses disappearing,
into Moses’ dry mouth,
breaking into Fort Knox,
stealing our intentions,
Hangars sitting dripped in oil,
Crying FREEDOM!

Handed to obsoletion,
Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth.


Lalalalala...ouu...

Everybody’s going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine.
Everybody’s going to the party have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sun...
Where the fuck are you!
Where the fuck are you!

Why don’t presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why don’t presidents fight the war?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why do they always send the poor?
Why, do, they always send the poor?
Why, do, they always send the poor?
Why, do, they always send the poor?
They always send the poor
They always send the poor

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:58 PM
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18. That's the common theme in recent wars
They always send the poor.
First time I'm hearing B.Y.O.B
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:00 PM
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19. i love them, if you get a chance check out their album "Aerials", most excellent.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:02 PM
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21. Will do
Thanks :hi:
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:55 PM
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16. My favorite anti war song: Green Fields of France... written by Eric Bogle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqStasuU328

This is a good version, but I've never heard it done better than by Eric Bogle himself. (Can't find an online version)

The Green Fields of France (No Man's Land)

Well, how do you do, Private William McBride,
Do you mind if I sit down here by your graveside?
And rest for awhile in the warm summer sun,
I've been walking all day, and I'm nearly done.
And I see by your gravestone you were only 19
When you joined the glorious fallen in 1916,
Well, I hope you died quick and I hope you died clean
Or, Willie McBride, was it slow and obscene?

Did they Beat the drum slowly, did the play the pipes lowly?
Did the rifles fir o'er you as they lowered you down?
Did the bugles sound The Last Post in chorus?
Did the pipes play the Flowers of the Forest?

And did you leave a wife or a sweetheart behind
In some loyal heart is your memory enshrined?
And, though you died back in 1916,
To that loyal heart are you forever 19?
Or are you a stranger without even a name,
Forever enshrined behind some glass pane,
In an old photograph, torn and tattered and stained,
And fading to yellow in a brown leather frame?

The sun's shining down on these green fields of France;
The warm wind blows gently, and the red poppies dance.
The trenches have vanished long under the plow;
No gas and no barbed wire, no guns firing now.
But here in this graveyard that's still No Man's Land
The countless white crosses in mute witness stand
To man's blind indifference to his fellow man.
And a whole generation who were butchered and damned.

And I can't help but wonder, no Willie McBride,
Do all those who lie here know why they died?
Did you really believe them when they told you "The Cause?"
Did you really believe that this war would end wars?
Well the suffering, the sorrow, the glory, the shame
The killing, the dying, it was all done in vain,
For Willie McBride, it all happened again,
And again, and again, and again, and again.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:01 PM
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20. The Irish sang a lot about the cruelty of war
Lyrics to make me cry.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:08 PM
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26. Still do ....
My wife's cousin was friends with Bobby Sands. The Irish have put this poem to music:

The Rhythm Of Time

There's an inner thing in every man,
Do you know this thing my friend?
It has withstood the blows of a million years,
And will do so to the end.

It was born when time did not exist,
And it grew up out of life,
It cut down evil's strangling vines,
Like a slashing searing knife.

It lit fires when fires were not,
And burnt the mind of man,
Tempering leadened hearts to steel,
From the time that time began.

It wept by the waters of Babylon,
And when all men were a loss,
It screeched in writhing agony,
And it hung bleeding from the Cross.

It died in Rome by lion and sword,
And in defiant cruel array,
When the deathly word was 'Spartacus'
Along with Appian Way.

It marched with Wat the Tyler's poor,
And frightened lord and king,
And it was emblazoned in their deathly stare,
As e'er a living thing.

It smiled in holy innocence,
Before conquistadors of old,
So meek and tame and unaware,
Of the deathly power of gold.

It burst forth through pitiful Paris streets,
And stormed the old Bastille,
And marched upon the serpent's head,
And crushed it 'neath its heel.

It died in blood on Buffalo Plains,
And starved by moons of rain,
Its heart was buried in Wounded Knee,
But it will come to rise again.

It screamed aloud by Kerry lakes,
As it was knelt upon the ground,
And it died in great defiance,
As they coldly shot it down.

It is found in every light of hope,
It knows no bounds nor space
It has risen in red and black and white,
It is there in every race.

It lies in the hearts of heroes dead,
It screams in tyrants' eyes,
It has reached the peak of mountains high,
It comes searing 'cross the skies.

It lights the dark of this prison cell,
It thunders forth its might,
It is 'the undauntable thought', my friend,
That thought that says 'I'm right!'
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:11 PM
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28. Thanks H2O Man
You know Barbados, Jamaica and Montserrat had a lot of Irish citizens. Montserrat actually has a public holiday on St Patrick's Day linked to a slave uprising.

They were treated as badly as African slaves in those evil days. There's something I love about the Irish.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:53 AM
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78. The first slaves
that the Europeans brought to America were Irish.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:56 AM
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79. Indeed
Too many people forget that.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:21 AM
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86. Here it is H2O Man
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:35 AM
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105. Thanks! n/t
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:00 AM
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61. I seem to have about 3 versions by now: Clancy Brothers, Peter Paul & Mary, Judy Collins...
When I googled for it just now it turns up in many, many collections. It's an incredibly powerful song, sometimes called "No Man's Land."

Hekate

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:03 AM
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67. I never heard the Clancy brothers but I've
heart the other two. Hauntingly beautiful.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:55 PM
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17. When Johnny Comes Marchin' Home Again, Hurrah, Hurrah...
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 07:01 PM by indie_ana_500
"When Johnny comes marching home again,
Hurrah! Hurrah!
We'll give him a hearty welcome then
Hurrah! Hurrah!
The men will cheer and the boys will shout
The ladies they will all turn out
And we'll all feel gay,
When Johnny comes marching home."

I know what you're thinkin' but no, it doesn't mean THAT kind of gay.

This is from the Civil War era maybe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INPNyNivNWA&mode=related&search=
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:06 PM
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23. Didn't have any such thought
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 07:07 PM by malaise
My brother used to sing that one after his cub scout meetings. I can see him performing for us :D

Weren't we all gay in those happy days.
Sp.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:07 PM
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24. Civil War
It's a variation of the older United Irishmen's "Johnny I Hardly Knew Ye."
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:02 PM
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22. forgot one, I'd love to change the world by ten years after
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:08 PM
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25. I know that one
Haven't heard it in decades. Thanks.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:11 PM
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27. i had to special order that cd from my local independent record store.
what a pain in the ass it was to get but well worth it.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:21 PM
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34. It's a classic
There's so much music - particularly from the Vietnam era. DUers should introduce it to the younger folks. Joan Baez, All The Weary Mothers of the Earth.

Where have all the flowers gone - Seeger and Hickerson
http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/parton/2/where.html

Check this web site
http://www.lacarte.org/songs/anti-war/by_title/index.html#Classic_Anti-War_Songs
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:22 PM
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35. nice, thanks for the site.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:12 PM
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29. This has always been a favorite song
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 07:21 PM by Greylyn58
Found the video on youtube. Althought I think the song is about the Civil War, the video this person did fits perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBFAjHtWuO8

edit: Sorry forgot to put the name. :) Billy Don't Be A Hero by Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods








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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:15 PM
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31. Give us a hint. A title? An artist? A word? Anything at all. Don't keep it a secret! n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:25 PM
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37. That's another all time favourite
across the globe.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:14 PM
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30. Where Have All the Flowers Gone?
Beautiful, haunting, moving (to me) video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYv0O43PrPk&mode=related&search=

They relate it to the Iraq War.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:27 PM
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38. An all time classic
a beautiful song that still brings tears to my eyes.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:58 AM
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59. This is the ESSENTIAL anti war song
I didn't view this until I looked at everything else on this thread. I knew it would break my heart. I have sung this song a million times. When I was a child I learned it. I dont know if I learned it at summer camp or from my mom. Anyway, I consider this song to be a contributor to my liberal antiwar outlook.

Thanks for posting the link.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:45 AM
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77. That's true for most of us
I knew every line since I was really young.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:18 PM
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32. Moster
by Steppenwolf:

Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man

But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light

The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog

And though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey

The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'

Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching

America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:50 PM
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47. Don't know that song
but sure loved Born to be Wild.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:12 AM
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57. There is a good Youtube video of Monster at:
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 12:13 AM by ConsAreLiars
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9123081586205652331

Very skillful mix of original performance clips and other images.

(edit - always a typo somewhere)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:29 AM
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71. Thanks a lot
Nice video clips as well.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:20 PM
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33. Iraq War - Nine Inch Nails - Capital G
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 07:29 PM by EOO
I pushed a button and elected him to office and uh -
He pushed the button and dropped the bomb
You pushed the button and could watch it on the television
Those motherfuckers didn't last too long huh-huh
I'm sick of hearing about the have's and the have not's
Have some personal accountability
The biggest problem with the way that we've been doing things is
The more we let you have the less that I'll be keeping for me

Well I used to stand for something
Now I'm on my hands and knees
Traded in my god for this war
He signs his name with a capital G

Don't give a shit about the temperature in Guatemala
Don't really see what all the fuss is about
Ain't gonna worry about no future generations and uh!
I'm sure somebody gonna figure it out
Don't try to tell me how some power can corrupt a person!
You haven't had enough to know what its like
You're only angry cause you wish you were in my position
Now nod your head because you know that I'm right...alright!

Well I used to stand for something
But forgot what that could be
There's a lot of me inside you
Maybe you're afraid to see

Well I used to stand for something
Now I'm on my hands and knees
Traded in my god for this war
And he signs his name with a capital G
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:28 PM
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39. Don't know that one
Thanks
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:30 PM
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41. Get their new album "Year Zero" ASAP.
I highly recommend it. It's got a lot more songs like that.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:36 PM
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44. It's on my shopping list
Thanks
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:36 AM
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90. Outstanding lyrics
I've never heard it, thanks for posting.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:24 PM
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36. Have you ever heard Jimmy Cliff's "Terror (September 11th)" from the album
Black Magic? Couldn't find a full version of the original on you tube.

September 11th
Well it was Hell in Heaven

A Hell of a day
In the US of A

Terror hit the World Trade Center
In New York City
And the Pentagon
In the city of Washington

I saw it on T.V.
I thought that I was watching a movie
Like it was World War III
In the land of the brave and the home of the free

Where was 007
September 11th
And Superman
When they called 911

Now there’s a war against terror, terror
Terror fighting terror
Terror, terror
Oh what a horror

Now there’s a war against terror, terror
Terror fighting terror
Terror, terror
Oh what a horror

Terror, terror, terror
We must have a better tomorrow
We must have a better tomorrow now

September 11th
Another war in Heaven
All who were there
Said it was a living nightmare

But for every action
There has to be a reaction
This is the law of nature
Now we’re living in the future

So when you’re digging a ditch
I think you better dig two
One for the other man
And one for you

And when you’re pointing a finger
When three points back at you
Be sure your hands are clean
I think you know what I mean

‘Cause when you war against terror, terror
Terror fighting terror
Terror, terror
Oh what a horror

Terror, terror
Biological
Terror, terror
Environmental

Terror, terror, terror
We must have a better tomorrow
We must have a better tomorrow now

11th of September
The world will always
The year 2001
A new era begun

This was a wake-up call
To nations great and small

Terror been with you all the time
But you never paid it no mind

Oh, it’s the Armageddon
A clash of civilization

With terror fighting terror
Tell me who can be the hero

I read it in Revelation
That there would be lamentation

A tale of God and the Devil
But good must overcome evil
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:33 PM
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42. I watched him perform that last year
at the University Chapel Gardens. Cliff is amazing.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:38 PM
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45. I've been a long-time fan, but have never seen him perform live.
Sounds like a great concert.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:51 PM
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48. I've seen him many times
I turned off of him for years after he violated the boycott of South Africa but I forgave him when Mandela did the same.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:30 PM
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40. Here's another good one
Buffalo Springfield's "For What Its Worth." Incredible song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4WhmapEhTA




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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:35 PM
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43. That's another classic
Great song.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:41 PM
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46. "You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant.."
Except for Alice.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:54 PM
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49. Another great classic
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:04 PM
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51. Thank you for the link!!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:11 PM
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52. That version is funny as hell
The judge with the seeing eye dog :rofl:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:36 AM
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74. My favorite too. I saw Arlo perform that live at Carnegie Hall right after it came out.
It was so much fun! I met him too after the performance. :)
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:02 PM
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50. "Ohio" by Crosby, Still, Nash and Young
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:23 PM
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53. I know a lot of Crosby, Still, Nash and Young songs
but not this one. Kent State affected me for life. I never thought that could happen in America.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:08 PM
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218. Hey -- whats with the clip of the girls tasting jello shots? how'd that get in there?
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:35 PM
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54. Here's one from the Reagan wars of the eighties...
(no YouTube of this)

El Salvador
(Noel Paul Stookey and Jim Wallis)

There's a sunny little country south of Mexico
Where the winds are gentle and the waters flow
But breezes aren't the only things that blow
in El Salvador

If you took the little lady for a moonlight drive
Odds are still good you'd come back alive
But everyone is innocent until they arrive
in El Salvador

If the rebels take a bus on the grand highway
The government destroys a village miles away
The man on the radio says 'now we'll play South of the Border'
And in the morning the natives say,
We're happy you have lived another day
Last night a thousand more passed away
in El Salvador

There's a television crew here from ABC
Filming Rio Lempe and the refugees
Calling murdered children the 'tragedy'
of El Salvador

Before the government cameras 20 feet away
Another man is asking for continued aid
Food and medicine and hand grenades
for El Salvador

There's a thump, a rumble, and the buildings sway
A soldier fires the acid spray
The public address system starts to play South of the Border
You run for cover and hide your eyes
You hear the screams from paradise
They've fallen further than you realize
in El Salvador

Just like Poland is 'protected' by her Russian friends
The junta is 'assisted' by Americans
And if 60 million dollars seems too much to spend
in El Salvador

They say for half a billion they could do it right
Bomb all day, burn all night
Until there's not a living thing upright
in El Salvador

They'll continue training troops in the USA
And watch the nuns that got away
And teach the military bands to play South of the Border
And kill the people to set them free
Who put this price on their liberty?
Don't you think it's time to leave
El Salvador?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:54 AM
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65. These are the virutally 'forgotten wars'
and sadly not enough of this music is available. This week is the 24th anniversary of the invasion of little Grenada. I'll never forget that on either.
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:36 PM
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55. "The Bravery of Being Out of Range" by Roger Waters
is one of the ones that comes to my mind (after Dylan's "Masters of War," among others). Actually, pretty much of that album (Amused to Death) is anti-war/anti-Poppy Bush.

Here's a video I found of it on YouTube - warning, some of the images are quite graphic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybHhq48b33Q
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:00 AM
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66. Thanks
how did we leave that Dylan classic out of this thread.

Great song -frightening video.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:47 PM
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56. Here's one
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 10:57 PM by Aya Reiko
Vietnam and Chimpy's Iraq mess:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X90T5sY5c2o
CCW's Fortunate Son

Pearl Jam's cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1BGZ0gAw9M
Fogerty w/ Springsteen & the E Street Band: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DToEX_--zro
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:38 AM
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75. How did we forget that one
another classic.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:14 AM
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58. Jackson Browne
I love this post! Thanks for all the links. I have watched most and read the lyrics of those posted. I think that this is where our salvation lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFowNFvmUxw
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 04:47 AM
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60. "Lives in the Balance" is one of my all time favorites
To think that he wrote that song during the '80's and it still works now. Very Sad, indeed.

Great thread Malaise.

Another good War song is:

Down By the Riverside


Gonna lay down my sword and shield
Down by the riverside
Down by the riverside
Down by the riverside
Gonna lay down my sword and shield
Down by the riverside
Ain't gonna study war no more.

refrain

I ain't gonna study war no more,
I ain't gonna study war no more,
Study war no more.
I ain't gonna study war no more,
I ain't gonna study war no more,
Study war no more.

Gonna stick my sword in the golden sand;
Down By the riverside
Down by the riverside
Down by the riverside
Gonna stick my sword in the golden sand
Down by the riverside
Gonna study war no more.

refrain

Gonna put on my long white robe;
Down By the riverside
Down by the riverside
Down by the riverside
Gonna put on my long white robe; Down by the riverside
Gonna study war no more.

refrain

Gonna put on my starry crown; Down By the riverside
Down by the riverside
Down by the riverside
Gonna put on my starry crown;
Down by the riverside
Gonna study war no more.

refrain

Gonna put on my golden shoes;
(ETC)
Gonna talk with the Prince of Peace;
(ETC)
Gonna shake hands around the world;
(ETC)

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:13 AM
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69. Lives in the Balance is another classic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFowNFvmUxw

Great video here


Down by the Riverside is one of the oldest 'negro' spirituals - a great version here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xzr_GBa8qk&mode=related&search=

Thanks Jeanette.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:31 AM
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72. It's been quite an experience for me
Some really haunting music and honest lyrics.

How many young men have been slaughtered for nothing.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:15 AM
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62. Clancy Bros: "The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" -- words here
The Band Played Waltzing Matilda
as sung by Makem and Clancy

When I was a young man I carried my pack
And I lived the free life of the rover.
From the Murrays green basin to the dusty outback
I waltzed my Matilda all over.

Then in nineteen-fifteen my country said, "Son,
It's time to stop ramblin' there's work to be done."
So they gave me a tin hat and they gave me a gun,
And they sent me away to the war.

And the band played "Waltzing Matilda"
As the ship pulled away from the quay.
And amid all the cheers, flag wavin' and tears
We sailed off for Galipoli.

How I remember that terrible day
When the blood stained the sand and the water.
And how in that hell that they called Souvla Bay
We were butchered like lambs at the slaughter.

Johnny Turk he was ready, oh he primed himself well.
He rained us with bullets and he showered us with shell.
And in five minutes flat we were all blown to Hell,
Nearly blew us back home to Australia.

And the band played "Waltzing Maltilda"
As we stopped to bury our slain.
We buried ours, and the Turks buried theirs,
And we started all over again.

Those who were living just tried to survive
In that mad world of blood, death, and fire.
And for ten weary weeks I kept myself alive,
While around be the corpses piled higher.

Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over head,
And when I awoke in my hospital bed,
And saw what it had done, well I wished I was dead.
Never knew there were worse things than dying.

No more will I go waltzing Matilda,
All around the green bush far and near.
For to hump tent and pegs a man needs both legs,
No more waltzing Matilda for me.

They collected the wounded, the crippled, the maimed,
And they shipped us back home to Australia.
The armless, the legless, the blind, the insane -
Those proud, wounded heroes of Souvla.

And when the ship pulled into Circular Quay,
I looked at the place where my legs used to be,
And thanked Christ there was no one there waiting for me
To grieve, and to mourn, and to pity.

And the band played "Waltzing Matilda"
As they carried us down the gangway.
But nobody cheered, they just stood there and stared,
And then turned all their faces away.

Now every April I sit on my porch
As I watch the parade pass before me.
And I see my old comrades, how proudly they march,
Reliving their dreams of past glory.

I see the old men, all tired, stiff and sore,
Forgotten heroes of a forgotten war.
And the young people ask, "What are they marching for?"
And I ask myself the same question.

And the band plays "Waltzing Matilda"
As the old men still answer the call.
But year after year, the numbers get fewer -
Someday no one will march there at all.

"Waltzing Matilda, waltzing Matilda,
Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?"
And their ghosts may be heard as they march by the Billabong,
"Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?"

*******************
This one along with "Green Fields of France/No Man's Land" get to me every time I hear them... Although I couldn't stop Dylan's "Master's of War" playing in my head during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq...

Hekate
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:17 AM
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70. That is beautiful
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:26 AM
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63. John Fogerty's new CD has two anti-bush, anti-war songs on it
I wish all of the songs on this thread would be available on a CD/DVD collection
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:34 AM
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73. Don't we all
Fogerty's songs are powerful.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:30 AM
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64. A lot of hate mail was received from the far right for this one:
(Sung to the tune of "When Johnny Comes Marching Home")

When Johnny Comes Rolling Home


When Johnny comes rolling home again, IRAQ, IRAQ!
We know he’ll never roam again, IRAQ, IRAQ!
His legs don’t work, and his shoulder droops.
But that’s OK: we support the troops!
We will all think twice when Johnny comes rolling home.

When our boy comes back broke and bent, IRAQ, IRAQ!
We’ll wonder why he ever went, IRAQ, IRAQ!
Dick Cheney got all his contracts done
And Dubya proved he’s the favorite son
But we’ll all think twice when Johnny comes rolling home.

The White House thinks they did the job IRAQ, IRAQ!
They never heard our Johnny sob, IRAQ, IRAQ!
They never found what they went to find,
And they give no thought to those left behind.
Bush will not be there when Johnny comes rolling home.

We wait for Johnny to arrive, IRAQ, IRAQ!
We know he’s more dead than alive, IRAQ, IRAQ!
He joined to fight for the U S A,
He never thought he’d get tossed away
And we’ll all wake up when Johnny comes rolling home!


© The Freedom Toast
Clips sometimes available from the download page at www.thefreedomtoast.com
Reprinted by permission
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:56 AM
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80. Didn't know that
Thanks.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:17 AM
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83. Oh yeah
The Freedom Toast was branded unpatriotic, un-American, traitorous,
etc etc etc. for this piece. They were able to trace some of the
nastier comments back to the authors, and one of them was some
right-wing "pillar of the community" in Illinois somewhere who
was involved in counselling groups of young boys. I'd hate for
my kid to be under his careful watch...........
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:41 AM
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85. Evil men and women
are everywhere. Funny they are the ones who scream most about their gods.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:03 AM
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68. Draft Dodger Rag.
Best part: The line that says "I believe in God and Senator Dodd and keepin' old Castro down" is still valid!!!

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:42 AM
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76. Here it is
Remember though that Castro isn't responsible for the millions who died in these wars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N68BjrCHCGM
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:56 PM
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199. yeah, the Castro line was general anti communism.
I was a little kid when that came out. The kid was just trying to say he was patriotic.

One of them was singing "Sarge, I'm only eighteen, I got a ruptured spleen and I always carry a purse". Maybe John Denver, I'm not sure. He was in the Chad Mitchell Trio when Mitchell left.


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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:59 AM
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81. Give Peace a Chance
Lennon
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:24 AM
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84. Oh yes
I still play that over and over. He has so many great anti-war songs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-NRriHlLUk

Imagine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOkxRLzBf0

Gimme Some Truth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyydCuurQMk
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:22 AM
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87. Masters of War
Dylan...(of course)

GREAT rendition By Eddie Vedder at Dylan's 30th...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8GHBk_HSXg
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:33 AM
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89. Lovely version
Thanks
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:14 PM
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187. Check out this amazing version by The Roots:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:28 PM
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188. Damn that's out of this world good
Brilliant.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:55 PM
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189. Saw them play it at Coachella this year
That was our "Jimi Hendrix playing the National Anthem" moment.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:03 PM
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190. That's exactly who came to mind
There are so many anti-war songs around today that I heard for the first time. It was well worth it. Thanks a lot. :D
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:31 AM
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88. this song is not anti-war but
it makes a great anti-iraq-war-video

WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=F48xNhqzQiA
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 08:37 AM
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91. Thanks
Nice. I always associate Joe Cocker's With a Little Help From my Friends with the anti-war movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FMq0iDX1yE
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:37 AM
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92. Another song that I associate with the anti-war movement
The Hollies -He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7HPqi5uVeo
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:54 AM
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93. bob dylan - Masters of War
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:57 AM
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94. Highway61 posted the Eddie Vedder version
Still Dylan is the master.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:05 AM
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95. "Dress Blues" by Jason Isbell
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AutocforjQg

Heartbreaking. True. Prices paid by young boys for old fools' greed and fear.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:15 AM
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99. First time I'm hearing this one
Haunting lyrics. Damn, what a debt we owe our musicians for waking up some young people.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:33 AM
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123. The studio version
is on Jason's debut album "Sirens of the Ditch," and is even more haunting. The pedal steel alone makes you want to weep. You can hear it his myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/jasonisbellmusic

He's a heck of a talent.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:43 AM
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128. Thanks a million
A real tear jerker.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:08 AM
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96. eve of destruction - barry mcguire
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:16 AM
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100. How in hell did we forget that one
I know every word of that song.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:34 AM
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104. hate your next door neighbour but don't forget to say grace
He was writing about the Fundies there! Man this is one of the all time great songs of all time.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:09 AM
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97. buffy ste marie - unknown soldier
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:22 AM
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101. H2O man selected that one
Thanks for the link. Buffy Ste. Marie's voice always haunted me.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:13 AM
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98. billy joel = goodnite saigon
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 10:25 AM by spanone
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RexDart Donating Member (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:33 AM
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102. Too Many Puppies - Primus
youtube video



Too many puppies are being shot in the dark.
Too many puppies are trained not to bark.
At the sight of blood that must be spilled so that
We may maintain our oil fields.
Too many puppies
Too many puppies are taught to heal.
Too many puppies are trained to kill.
On the command of men wearing money belts that buy
Mistresses sleek animal pelts.
Too many puppies.

Too many puppies with guns in their hands.
Too many puppies in foreign lands.
Are dressed up sharp in suits of green and
Placed upon the war machine.
Too many puppies are just like me.
Too many puppies are afraid to see.
The visions of the past brought to life again,
Too many puppies, too many dead men.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:07 AM
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109. Another one I'm hearing for the first time
Great lyrics
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:33 AM
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103. blowin' in the wind - bob dylan
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:36 AM
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106. last to die - springsteen
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:09 AM
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111. Yep
Blowing in the Wind and Last to Die must be here. You sure know them spanone :D
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Rhythm and Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:36 AM
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107. delete
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 10:37 AM by Rhythm and Blue
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:05 AM
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108. "(Didn't Know I Was) Unamerican"
Great thread, thank you!


http://www.ianrhett.com/videos.html

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fckAjUAKrs


"Didn't know I was unamerican
For choosing to give a damn
Or unpatriotic
For daring to take a stand
For what I believe in
Looks like freedom to me -
Expressions of liberty
Wanting our America to be
A responsible hegemony

v.2
Didn't know I was a communist
For wanting to share the wealth
It doesn't take an economist
To measure the cost of health
And what I believe in
Looks like heaven to me -
One human family
Where everybody's got enough to eat
And something warm to cover their feet

v.3
Didn't know I'd be labeled a terrorist
For daring to speak my mind
It's becoming more precarious
For failing to toe the line
And what I believe in
Sounds like freedom to me -
Like the Sons of Liberty
In 1773
Dumping 45 tonnes of tea

v.4
Didn't know I was in the minority
Of people who love the Earth
I hope it becomes a priority
Before it gets any worse
And what I believe In
Looks like heaven to me -
Where angels take the shape of the trees
Giving us clean air to breathe
From the rivers to the mountains and seas...

v.5
DIdn't know I hated my country
For acknowledging the Truth
This war is despicable profiteering
At the expense of our youth
And what I believe In
Looks like heaven to me -
All of humanity
Living as community
In relative harmony

I know it's just a song
But if the whole world sang along
How much longer would it be this way?"


This work is ©2004 Ian Rhett and licensed
under a Creative Commons License.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:11 AM
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114. Couldn't be great without all of you
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 11:14 AM by malaise
Listening to(Didn't Know I Was) Unamerican now - wicked lyrics. :D

Great video clips as well.

Add.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:07 AM
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110. your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore - john prine
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:09 AM
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112. sam stone - john prine
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:16 AM
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117. First time I'm hearing this one
A tear jerker. :cry:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:10 AM
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113. simple song of freedom - bobby darin
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:18 AM
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118. Know this one well
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 11:26 AM by malaise
Was on a flight back in the early 70s when they turned back to throw Bobby Darin off - he was way too drunk apparently :D
Edit - change word.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:14 AM
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115. revolution - beatles
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:15 AM
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116. imagine - john lennon
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:19 AM
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119. Imagine's up there with H2Os
Give Peace a chance. We also forgot Revolution.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:25 AM
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120. bring the boys home - freda payne
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:28 AM
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121. That was a great hit
when I was in New York.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:29 AM
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122. last night i had the strangest dream - john denver
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:45 AM
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129. My New York boss's brother in law died in Vietnam
and he introduced me to this beautiful song.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:33 AM
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124. If I Had a Rocket Launcher -- Bruce Cockburn.
After "Lives in the Balance" I play this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vCww3j2-w

--IMM
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:37 AM
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125. I love John Denver's The Strangest Dream
I used to cry when I heard that.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:40 AM
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126. great song, written in the early fifties by Ed McCurdy
Last Night I Had The Strangest Dream
words and music by Ed McCurdy

Last night I had the strangest dream
I'd ever dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war

I dreamed I saw a mighty room
Filled with women and men
And the paper they were signing said
They'd never fight again

And when the paper was all signed
And a million copies made
They all joined hands and bowed their heads
And grateful pray'rs were prayed

And the people in the streets below
Were dancing 'round and 'round
While swords and guns and uniforms
Were scattered on the ground

Last night I had the strangest dream
I'd never dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war.

TRO-©1950,1951 & 1955 Almanac Music, Inc.
New York, N.Y. Copyrights renewed
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:46 AM
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130. It will always remind me of my New York boss's
brother in law's death in Vietnam.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:41 AM
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127. That reply for was Spanone but it hardly matters
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 11:42 AM by malaise
First time I'm hearing If I Had A Rocket Launcher. Thanks - great lyrics.

Add.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:49 AM
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131. Invasion -- The Android Sisters -- Obscure and offbeat!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:54 AM
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133. The helicopters are great
Almost a reggae beat. Wicked.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:56 AM
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134. Android Sisters was a breakthrough LP
Not available on CD. :(

--IMM
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:00 PM
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137. I wonder where I can find all of these in one spot
These are classics. Invasion is different - revolutionary indeed.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:12 PM
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142. ZBS is an outfit that sells their downloads.
Here:
http://wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=22005&archive=33123&starttime=0:00:00


There's a good video of "Electronic Sheep:"
http://www.nuku.com/android.html

I'd like it if someone would put the originals on a CD. There is nothing like the Android Sisters.

--IMM
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:20 PM
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145. Thanks
Like you I'd like the CDs.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:54 AM
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132. Okay, that was a great way to spend some time this morning...
...so having just spent an hour and a half listening to some great songs, here is one y'all missed so far:

The Universal Soldier -- Buffy St. Marie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg0LOzCkxxE

Donovan's version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLzUNDaF00U

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:59 AM
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135. Spanone posted that
and H2O mentioned it yesterday in the evening. I'll check out Donovan's version in a mo. :D
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:56 PM
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148. Well silly me...
...:blush:

Donovan's version is definitely worth a listen!

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:04 PM
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152. Well I learn something every day
Donovan's is the original. Thanks spanone and ljm2002. Two great versions.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:22 PM
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168. Just to be clear...
...Donovan was the first to record it. Buffy Sainte Marie wrote it though. Here's what she says about that:

I wrote "Universal Soldier" in the basement of The Purple Onion coffee house in Toronto in the early sixties. It's about individual responsibility for war and how the old feudal thinking kills us all. Donovan had a hit with it in 1965.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:21 PM
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176. Thanks
this has been good.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:01 PM
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151. recorded in 1965 by donovan released 1967
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:59 AM
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136. Steve Earle - Rich Man's War
http://youtube.com/watch?v=A4bCVoMCeYY

Jimmy joined the army ‘cause he had no place to go
There ain’t nobody hirin’
‘round here since all the jobs went
down to Mexico
Reckoned that he’d learn himself a trade maybe see the world
Move to the city someday and marry a black haired girl
Somebody somewhere had another plan
Now he’s got a rifle in his hand
Rollin’ into Baghdad wonderin’ how he got this far
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

Bobby had an eagle and a flag tattooed on his arm
Red white and blue to the bone when he landed in Kandahar
Left behind a pretty young wife and a baby girl
A stack of overdue bills and went off to save the world
Been a year now and he’s still there
Chasin’ ghosts in the thin dry air
Meanwhile back at home the finance company took his car
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

When will we ever learn
When will we ever see
We stand up and take our turn
And keep tellin’ ourselves we’re free

Ali was the second son of a second son
Grew up in Gaza throwing bottles and rocks when the tanks would come
Ain’t nothin’ else to do around here just a game children play
Somethin’ ‘bout livin’ in fear all your life makes you hard that way

He answered when he got the call
Wrapped himself in death and praised Allah
A fat man in a new Mercedes drove him to the door
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:05 PM
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139. Mainstream opposition
A fat man in a new Mercedes drove him to the door
Just another poor boy off to fight a rich man’s war

Great lyrics. We need an anti-war music only radio station.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:03 PM
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138. The times they are 'a changin'
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:08 PM
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140. One of the greatest of all times
Damn - memories, memories.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:59 PM
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149. Great song. n/t
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:11 PM
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141. John Brown

Another Dylan... Poignant as Hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9ktamP2Dp8
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:15 PM
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143. Hubby and his best friend were in Chicago in those days
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 12:16 PM by malaise
and his best friend was obsessed with Dylan. His daughters grew up on Dylan, Tosh and Marley, in that order. he has every record and every book ever written about him. The younger daughter recently named her son Dylan. Need I say more :D

John Brown is another classic.

Sp.
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misternormal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:19 PM
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144. It is very easy to...
... become caught up in Dylan's music. For those that aren't fans, to get past the singing and listen to the words.

btw... My son's middle name is Dylan. What can I say? :shrug: :hippie:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:22 PM
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146. It figures
:D
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:49 PM
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147. Phil Och's 'I Ain't Marchin' Anymore'
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:00 PM
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150. He covers several wars
nice ballad. Always the old who lead us to war, always the young who fall.
Isn't that the truth.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:12 PM
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153. with god on our side - bob dylan
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:24 PM
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154. I love the version with Joan Baez
great song.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:35 PM
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155. check out this dylan version - very early british tv
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:49 PM
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157. Lovely version
Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge over Troubles Water was another song I associated with the period. I still don't know which version I prefer - theirs or Aretha Franklin's.

S & G
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sbFEnoITiWE&mode=related&search=

Aretha
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_DBl5gAs6WI&mode=related&search=

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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:43 PM
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156. We can bomb the world to pieces.... (spearhead)
But we can't bomb it into peace... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICL-4Onk0PA
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:49 PM
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158. Time To Go Home (Spearhead)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:55 PM
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159. First time I'm hearing Spearhead
Nice lyrics -great voice.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:25 PM
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160. The most important artist today.....
Michael Franti and Spearhead are the most important artists in the world right now. he has a DEVD out about his trip to Iraq and Afghanistan that is simply incredible. he is n incrdible person too. Really walks the walk.

The only artist I have ever seen that had the same impact was Bob Marley. www.spearheadvibrations.com
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:29 PM
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161. Thanks. I disagree though
Dylan and Lennon were powerful in their days.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:38 PM
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162. 30 years ago.....
When i see Franti, I see kids. Youngsters digging it. And that is so cool, because they are getting it. The message, not spoken by someone 30 years ago, but a contemporary.

And The band is one of the better ones out here right now. They play so many festivals, including the free show in SF, Power to the peaceful,and Franti supports so many causes.

The thing is, especially on this board, people ask "who are the protest singers today'. Well here they are.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:43 PM
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163. True but you mentioned Marley and he's been
dead 26 years.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:53 PM
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165. Bob is the only artist that the second I saw him.....
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 02:54 PM by Bennyboy
I knew that I was watching something much larger than music. Something much more important. Spearhead is the only other artist I have ever seen that has done that to me.....

Bomb the World http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4BJELDStrM The Armegeddon mix....
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:17 PM
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167. I know the feeling
Hubby started collecting Wailers' music before anyone recognized Bob, Peter or Bunny. I've been in the interior of Guyana and found indigenous WaiWais without electricity listening to Marley with a car battery - mindblowing indeed.
Get Up Stand Up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsVkV3AZqqI

I like that Bomb the World. Nice video too.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:43 PM
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169. Funny Bob Marley story.....
One night after seeing Leftover Salmon at the Fillmore, my wife and I went to Steps OF Rome in North Beach to grab a bite. Late night. The place was packed. Every kind of person there. emo kids, and hippies, punk rockers and fashionistas. The noise was an incredible cacaphony, so loud you could not hear the background music.

The staff was all guys, all fresh off the boat from Italy and could not speak any English. We had to point to what we wanted on the menu.

All of a sudden, Bob Marley came on the background music.....Get up Stand up.....Soon, the place got really quiet. Then everyone started singing along. Everyone. even the waitstaff who did not know English, knew all the words. All of a sudden it was like all these very diverse people had become as one. "no Woman No Cry' and more. It had become a party, a world party in the place.

Truly one of the most indredible things I have ever seen. That is how powerful music can be.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:53 PM
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170. Powerful indeed
Great story.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:43 PM
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164. "The money kings in Cuba blew up the gunboat Maine. But Block got awful angry
and blamed it all on Spain.
He went right in the battle and there he lost his leg
And now he's peddling shoestrings and is walking on a peg.
He shouts, 'Remember Maine, Hurrah! To hell with Spain!' "

Mr Block by Joe Hill
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:04 PM
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166. Joe Hill was special -a great man
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 03:54 PM
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171. War songs used to be a lot more warlike
When I was little, my grandmother told me how during the Spanish-American War in 1898, everyone was singing "There'll Be a Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight." And my mother taught me, "Tramp, tramp, tramp, the boys are marching, here comes the Kaiser at the door. Oh, we'll take a bottle of beer and we'll hit him on the ear, and there won't be no Kaiser anymore" -- which kids were still singing a couple of years after World War I, when she learned it.

I don't think there even *was* such a thing as an anti-war song during the Spanish-American War or World War I. But World War II songs were mostly either comical or sentimental and nostalgic rather than bellicose. And now the war songs are overwhelmingly anti-war.

Something's certainly changed.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 04:05 PM
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172. Maybe people learnt that war only benefited the rich
and killed the children of the poor. Maybe people are less gullible now that there are some independent media.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:04 PM
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173. Who sang it better than Country Joe MacDonald !!!

:woohoo:

Well, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Come on Wall Street, don't be slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of its trade,
But just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Viet Cong.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Well, come on generals, let's move fast;
Your big chance has come at last.
Now you can go out and get those reds
'Cause the only good commie is the one that's dead
And you know that peace can only be won
When we've blown 'em all to kingdom come.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

Come on mothers throughout the land,
Pack your boys off to Vietnam.
Come on fathers, and don't hesitate
To send your sons off before it's too late.
And you can be the first ones in your block
To have your boy come home in a box.

And it's one, two, three
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam.
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:17 PM
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174. Another great anti-war song
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:37 PM
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179. Yes Indeed!!!

I used to play the spoons. :rofl:

Thanks for the link.

:hi: :hi:

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:41 PM
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180. Wow!
That's cool. You're welcome :hi:
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:17 PM
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175. Absolutely Great thread, but what about
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 05:19 PM by tomg
Neil Young's Living With War? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOeWxEgUr7M

And then there is the great Pete Seeger. You want to see a real patriot check out Pete in 1969 singing "Bring them Home" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK1g69iHu1Q

and then a short clip of Pete this year doing it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYYhT2xKyfI
He is 88 in that clip.


edit: 1969, not 1968
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:26 PM
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177. We have a link to Seeger at #34
but not Bring Them Home and yes we should have Neil Young.

Thanks for these.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:52 PM
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181. Bob Marley...War
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 05:55 PM
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182. That's actually Selasie's speech to the UN
Great song - play it in the car every day.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:02 PM
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183. Watch the vid, it ties them both together...
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:06 PM
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185. Nice video for real
We have so many versions of Bob, it isn't funny.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:29 PM
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195. I believe that
he also delivered the same speech in California. I am trying to remember the date and place. As I grow older, it often takes me longer to remember those things that used to be on the top of my head. Gravity, I guess.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:35 PM
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196. You're absolutely right - in 1968
One of my colleagues mentioned that one night when we were discussing the UN speech. The UN speech was 63.
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:04 PM
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184. How did we forget "Universal Soldier" - Donovan
I've been at work all day and couldn't get this thread out of my head. Here are two versions of Donovan's Song "Univeral Soldier" 60's something and the here and now version. Good Lord, I don't want to Study War No More.

Universal Soldier

He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four,
He fights with missiles and with spears.
He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen,
He's been a soldier for a thousand years.

He'a a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain,
A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew.
And he knows he shouldn't kill,
And he knows he always will,
Kill you for me my friend and me for you.

And he's fighting for Canada,
He's fighting for France,
He's fighting for the USA,
And he's fighting for the Russians,
And he's fighting for Japan,
And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way.

And he's fighting for Democracy,
He's fighting for the Reds,
He says it's for the peace of all.
He's the one who must decide,
Who's to live and who's to die,
And he never sees the writing on the wall.

But without him,
How would Hitler have condemned him at Labau?
Without him Caesar would have stood alone,
He's the one who gives his body
As a weapon of the war,
And without him all this killing can't go on.

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame,
His orders come from far away no more,
They come from here and there and you and me,
And brothers can't you see,
This is not the way we put an end to war.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohXsdbF-7jc Young Donovan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8COvkNKrAoU&mode=related&search= Older Donovan

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 06:11 PM
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186. It's there
Check spanone at 97 and ljm2002 at 132. Great song.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:08 PM
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191. Here's a bunch more...
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 07:15 PM by calipendence
I still hold Edwin Starr who has THE classic war song "War" in special reverence. I still wonder if he'd still be with us now if it weren't for the Iraq War since I think he died of a heart attack (or some similar sudden stress-based ailment) a day or two before it started.


Peace Train - Cat Stevens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjSHazjrWg
Peace Train - 10,000 Maniacs cover - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI6DsCrvykc
Peace Train (newer version) Yusuf Islam (Cat Stevens) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wEctHyuc0

Power to the People - John Lennon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wos-dDxpJlQ
Power to the People - Black Eyed Peas cover - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbvYMweQy0

We Gotta Get Out of this Place - The Animals - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8NZd7NlHbQ

Five to One - The Doors - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVTCX8DtvHY

Freedom - Richie Havens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcePttFlWI8

Lucky Man - Emerson, Lake, and Palmer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiLOMP9MNE

Wooden Ships - Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rG2ME4sAc

Purple Haze / Star Spangled Banner - Jimi Hendrix - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjHdBDnHEeU

U.S. Forces - Midnight Oil - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdaYb93x2O4

War Pigs - Black Sabbath - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRR_n_yQGA


Newer stuff:

Deja Vu All Over Again - John Fogerty - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_DCp3B-RDI

Keep on Rockin' in the Free World - Neil Young - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02z3gIg9lcQ

Work for Peace - Gil Scott Heron - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faxUbpyBHRo


Others to try and find:

Great American Eagle Tragedy - Earth Opera (seems like its talking about George Bush though set in Vietnamese War)

Don't Let the Bastards Keep You Down - Kris Kristoferson
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:15 PM
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193. Great post
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 07:22 PM by malaise
H2O man mentioned the one by the Doors. Can't believe we all forgot Cat Stevens, Jimmy Hendrix, Richie Havens and Gil Scott Heron. I don't know all the others but we do have some Lennon, one by Fogerty, Young and one by Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young. Great list there. Thanks. :hi:

Starr's war is one of the great anti-war songs.
Add.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:14 PM
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192. I don't understand why Stereolab doesn't get more attention.
Any one ever read into Laetitia lyrics?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 07:17 PM
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194. Never heard them
Give us a song.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:07 PM
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217. Avant Garde M.O.R., Ping Pong
Avant Garde M.O.R.

Now it is the time to say no to the war.
Yes, we can stop it before it gets too far.
The process is already engendered,
Stop it before it does get too far.
The ways to pressurize are numerous
Often at the threshold of your door.
Cant you see the power is limitless
It can take us beyond any bounds.

Ping Pong

it's alright 'cos the historical pattern has shown
how the economical cycle tends to revolve
in a round of decades three stages stand out in a loop
a slump and war then peel back to square one and back for more

bigger slump and bigger wars and a smaller recovery
huger slump and greater wars and a shallower recovery

you see the recovery always comes 'round again
there's nothing to worry for things will look after themselves
it's alright recovery always comes 'round again
there's nothing to worry if things can only get better

there's only millions that lose their jobs and homes and sometimes accents
there's only millions that die in their bloody wars, it's alright

it's only their lives and the lives of their next of kin that they are losing
it's only their lives and the lives of their next of kin that they are losing

it's alright 'cos the historical pattern has shown
how the economical cycle tends to revolve
in a round of decades three stages stand out in a loop
a slump and war then peel back to square one and back for more

bigger slump and bigger wars and a smaller recovery
huger slump and greater wars and a shallower recovery

don't worry be happy things will get better naturally
don't worry shut up sit down go with it and be happy

dum, dum, dum, de dum dum, de duh de duh de dum dum dum... ah ah
dum, dum, dum, de dum dum, de duh de duh de dum dum dum... ah ah

(if the above lyrics seem like they could possibly in fact be pro-war, engage your sarcasm detector...)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:32 PM
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224. Great lyrics
Thanks.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:44 PM
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197. Phil Ochs - One More Parade
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 09:58 PM by ConsAreLiars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W9QDIV_XNs

From the ultimate fan-based Ochs site: http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/ochs/lyrics/one-more-parade.html

One More Parade
By Phil Ochs and Bob Gibson

Hup, two, three, four, marching down the street
Rolling of the drums and the trampin' of the feet
Generals salute and mothers wave and weep(?)
Here comes the big parade
Don't be afraid
Price is paid
One more parade

So young, so strong, so ready for the war
So willing to die upon a foreign shore
All march together, everybody looks the same
So there is no one you can blame
Don't be ashamed
Light the flame
One more parade

Listen for the sound and listen for the noise
Listen for the thunder of the marching boys
A few years ago their guns were only toys
Here comes the big parade
Don't be afraid
Price is paid
One more parade

So young, so strong, so ready for the war
So willing to die upon a foreign shore
All march together, everybody looks the same
So there is no one you can blame
Don't be ashamed
Light the flame
One more parade

Medals on their coats and guns in their hands
Trained to kill as they're trained to stand
10,000 ears need only one command
Here comes the big parade
Don't be afraid
Price is paid
One more parade

So young, so strong, so ready for the war
So willing to die upon a foreign shore
All march together, everybody looks the same
So there is no one you can blame
Don't be ashamed
Light the flame
One more parade

Cold hard stares on faces ? so proud
Kisses from the girls and cheers from the crowd
And the widows from the last war cry into their shroud
Here comes the big parade
Don't be afraid
Price is paid
Don't be ashamed
War is a game
World in flames
So start the parade
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:56 PM
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198. Phil Ochs - Cops of the World
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV1KUyPGaLM

Lyrics from: http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~trent/ochs/lyrics/cops-of-the-world.html
Cops of the World
By Phil Ochs

Come, get out of the way, boys
Quick, get out of the way
You'd better watch what you say, boys
Better watch what you say
We've rammed in your harbor and tied to your port
And our pistols are hungry and our tempers are short
So bring your daughters around to the port
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

We pick and choose as please, boys
Pick and choose as please
You'd best get down on your knees, boys
Best get down on your knees
We're hairy and horny and ready to shack
We don't care if you're yellow or black
Just take off your clothes and lie down on your back
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

Our boots are needing a shine, boys
Boots are needing a shine
But our Coca-cola is fine, boys
Coca-cola is fine
We've got to protect all our citizens fair
So we'll send a battalion for everyone there
And maybe we'll leave in a couple of years
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

Dump the reds in a pile, boys
Dump the reds in a pile
You'd better wipe of that smile, boys
Better wipe off that smile
We'll spit through the streets of the cities we wreck
We'll find you a leader that you can't elect
Those treaties we signed were a pain in the neck
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

Clean the johns with a rag, boys
Clean the johns with a rag
If you like you can use your flag, boys
If you like you can use your flag
We've got too much money we're looking for toys
And guns will be guns and boys will be boys
But we'll gladly pay for all we destroy
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

Please stay off of the grass, boys
Please stay off of the grass
Here's a kick in the ass, boys
Here's a kick in the ass
We'll smash down your doors, we don't bother to knock
We've done it before, so why all the shock?
We're the biggest and toughest kids on the block
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

When we butchered your son, boys
When we butchered your son
Have a stick of our gum, boys
Have a stick of our bubble-gum
We own half the world, oh say can you see
The name for our profits is democracy
So, like it or not, you will have to be free
'Cause we're the Cops of the World, boys
We're the Cops of the World

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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:00 PM
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200. Another Phil Ochs song - Is There Anybody Here?

Is There Anybody Here

By Phil Ochs

Is there anybody here who'd like to change his clothes into a uniform,
Is there anybody here who thinks they're only serving in a raging storm.
Is there anybody here with glory in their eyes,
loyal to the end, whose duty is to die,
I want to see him, I want to wish him luck,
I wanna shake his hand, wanna call his name,
Pin a medal on the man.

Is there anybody here who'd like to wrap a flag around an early grave,
Is there anybody here who thinks they're standing taller on a battle wave.
Is there anybody here proud of the parade,
who'd like to give a cheer and show they're not afraid.
I'd like like to ask him what he's trying to defend,
I'd like to ask him what he thinks he's gonna win.
Is there anybody here who thinks that following orders takes away the blame
Is there anybody here who'd wouldn't mind a murder by another name
Is there anybody here whose pride is on the line,
with the honor of the brave and the courage of the blind,

I want to see him, I want to wish him luck,
I wanna shake his hand, gonna call his name,
Pin a medal on the man.
Medal on the man.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:45 AM
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201. Thanks for those
Great lyrics.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:51 AM
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202. Jimmy Cliff is the dog's bollocks - thanks for the links.

Here's an ultra-cheesey one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH4-tOqLH94">Sgt. Barry Sadler - Ballad of the Green Berets

Count yourself lucky I'm not posting anything by Ted Nugent.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:26 AM
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203. LOL
We missed that one. :D I'd love to see W singing that :rofl:
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:50 AM
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204. Unknown soldier - The Doors
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:55 AM
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205. Great
H2O man mentioned that one.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:59 AM
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207. too late to rec, pity. What about 19 - Paul Hardcastle?
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 07:00 AM by BelgianMadCow
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:07 AM
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208. Check out Esra Star's two posts
at #1 and #12. Those OZ boys were 19 -WWI.

Great song - graphic video too. Thanks.
We got past 200 without one flame - that's a hell of a rec. :D
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propagandagirl Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:25 AM
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209. Anti-Flag
"The Press Corpse"

The {Downing Street} memo says...

...We gotta work to make the facts fit the false charges
Pull the wool over the eyes of the filthy masses
Stab the people in the back for the corporate choice
Roll the propaganda out using The People's Voice

We don't want to talk about it...

The press scribble scribble every half-truth spoke
Then shoot it round the country like an April Fools joke
Hype the nation for a Desert Storm love affair
Wave the stars and stripes like you just don't care!

They talk it up all day, they talk it up all night
They talk until their face turns blue - Red white and blue!
But when the truth escapes the night and crawls into the day
We find the picture still askew

They don't want to... talk talk talk talk talk about it
They wanna tiptoe, walk around it
Wave the flag and mindlessly salute
They don't want to talk about it
They wanna tiptoe, walk around it
Wave the flag and cowardly salute

And on the TV screen...
...Diversion and aversion is the flavor of the day
Was it WMDs? Or Democracy?
Blame it on MI-6 or the CIA
The White House Press Corpse only has one thing to say...

"We don't want to talk about it!"

The White House boils over, "Al Jazeera got it
wrong!"
The Press Corpse jumps onboard singing the White House song
While over in Iraq thousands are dead because of lies
The spineless war drumming-press corpse have taken lives

They talk it up all day, they talk it up all night
They talk until their face turns blue - Red white and blue!
But when the truth escapes the night and crawls into the day
We find the picture still askew

They don't want to... talk talk talk talk talk about it
They wanna tiptoe, walk around it
Wave the flag and mindlessly salute
They don't want to talk about it
They wanna tiptoe, walk around it
Wave the flag and cowardly salute

Fires fueled on endless lies
Black shrouds coat desert skies
A nation's viewpoint blurred and led
As embeds report what they're fed

We don't want to talk about it...
We don't want to talk about it...
We don't want to talk about it...
We don't want to talk about it...

(We don't want to talk about it...) 
We don't, don't want to, we don't wanna talk about it
(We don't want to...) 
We don't, don't want to, we don't wanna talk

They don't want to... talk talk talk talk talk about it
They wanna tiptoe, walk around it
Wave the flag and cowardly salute
They don't want to talk about it
They wanna tiptoe, walk around it
Wave the flag and cowardly salute


AND THIS ONE:

"Depleted Uranium Is A War Crime"

[U.S. Representative, Jim McDermott:]
"Depleted Uranium is used on the ends of bullets 
and on the ends of shells because it is so hard {that}
almost any armament is vulnerable to something that is tipped
with Depleted Uranium."

Woahhh!

In the cities and towns of Afghanistan
In the heart of the Balkans - the heart of Iraq
Not your Grandfather's style of deadly munitions
It's silent and deadly long after the mission

Depleted uranium is a war crime
Depleted uranium is a war crime

Gonna cut through their armor, then cut through your lungs
If you make it home alive you'll still die young
A greedy gang of liars, yeah we've seen it all before
A moneymaking scheme led by war-profiteering whores

Depleted uranium is a war crime
Depleted uranium is a war crime

[U.S. Representative, Jim McDermott:]
"They were throwing it away until they figured out they
could use it for armament."

Half Life - 4.5 Billion
Half Life - You'll waste away
Half Life - 4.5 Billion
Half Life - You'll waste a...

We've heard their lies before and we know they're lying again
Feels like a déjà vu of Agent Orange and Vietnam
Weaponry so sadistic it is hard to comprehend
War profits surge with every breath by Uncle Sam

Depleted uranium is a war crime
Depleted uranium is a war crime
Depleted uranium is a war crime

[U.S. Representative, Jim McDermott:]
"We went to a hospital in Southern Iraq, 
and a woman was there with a very deformed child and 
her husband had been in the Iraqi Army and had been 
in the battles in Southern Iraq and 
came home and they produced a baby with very severe 
malformations... Both the Leukemia rates in children and 
malformations at birth had increased by 600% 
and it was clearly an epidemic where all this 
DU had been dumped... It becomes a dust that can be 
inhaled and infect the blood stream and the rest 
of the body and it was the opinion of the 
doctors there that this was caused by depleted uranium...
They simply saw this as being a direct result of the 
war by United States."

Half Life - 4.5 Billion
Half Life - We waste away
Half Life - 4.5 Billion
Half Life - We waste away
Half Life - 4.5 Billion
Half Life - We waste away
Half Life - 4.5 Billion
Half Life - We waste away

[U.S. Representative, Jim McDermott:]
"The doctor said, 
'Women {in Iraq} at the time of birth don't ask if 
it's a boy or a girl, they ask: Is it normal?'
...The military denies first, and then after the evidence
builds to the point where they can no longer deny, 
then they do the research. That's what happened in the 
Vietnam era around Agent Orange and I suspect and 
I'm worried that that's what will happen this time."

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:44 AM
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211. Did you write those?
They're very good. Welcome to DU :toast: :grouphug:
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propagandagirl Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:49 AM
Response to Reply #211
212. No...
I wish I could claim the words, but they are not mine. From
the band Anti-Flag! Thanks for the welcome!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:21 PM
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214. OK - never heard of them before
Will look them up this evening.
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propagandagirl Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:03 PM
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216. Here you go
www.anti-flag.com

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:23 PM
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220. War sucks let's party
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:37 AM
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210. Brothers in Arms - Dire Straits
These mist covered mountains
Are a home now for me
But my home is the lowlands
And always will be
Some day you'll return to
Your valleys and your farms
And you'll no longer burn
To be brothers in arms

Through these fields of destruction
Baptisms of fire
I've watched all your suffering
As the battles raged higher
And though they did hurt me so bad
In the fear and alarm
You did not desert me
My brothers in arms

There's so many different worlds
So many different suns
And we have just one world
But we live in different ones

Now the sun's gone to hell
And the moon's riding high
Let me bid you farewell
Every man has to die
But it's written in the starlight
And every line on your palm
We're fools to make war
On our brothers in arms
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:54 AM
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213. DEEP PURPLE
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 12:25 PM
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215. Thanks for that one
:D
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:27 PM
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222. Just listening to this one
Thanks.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 08:33 PM
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231. Nice...
I'm going to have to break out my Perfect Strangers CD.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 02:24 PM
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219. Error: You've already recommended that thread.
great thread malaise......
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 05:31 PM
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223. Thanks spanone
A superb collective thread. :grouphug:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 06:35 PM
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225. I have a few...
CRASS - Major General Despair

We're looking for a better world, but what do we see?
Just hatred, poverty, aggression, misery.
So much money spent on war
When three quarters of the world is so helplessly poor.
Major General Despair sits at his desk,
Planning a new mode of attack,
He's quite unconcerned about chance or risk,
The Major General's a hard nut to crack.
Oh yes, he designs a cruise missile,
Tactically sound, operationally O.K.,
While the starving crawl onto the deathpile,
They can't avoid their fate another day.
Attack on the mind, but he calls it defense,
But I ask you again who's it for?
Do the starving millions who don't stand a chance
Hope to benefit by his stupid war?
Babies crippled with hunger before they could walk,
Mothers with dry breasts cry dry tears,
And meanwhile Major General Despair gives a talk
On increasing the war budget over the years.
How can they do it, these men of steel,
How can they plot destruction, pain?
Is it the only way that they can feel,
By killing again and again?

Is it some part of themselves that has died
That permits them to plan as they do?
Or is it us that is dead, do we simply hide
From the responsibility to stop what they do?
There's so many of us, yet we let them have their way,
At this moment they're plotting and planning.
We've got to rise up to take their power away,
To save the world that they're ruining.
They're destroying the world with their maggot-filled heads,
Death, pain and mutilation,
They've got the responsibility of millions of dead.
Yet they're still bent on destruction.
The generals and politicians who advocate war should be made to wade in the truth of it,
They should spend sleepless nights shivering with fear and by day time should crawl in the deathpit.

They'll find the truth of what they've done there,
Festering corpses they and their kind made,
Eyeless skulls that endlessly stare
Having seen the truth of military trade.
The earth was our home, the wind and the air,
The blue sky, the grass and the trees,
But these masters of war, what do they care?
Only sentiments, these.
It's our world but through violence they took it away,
Took dignity, happiness, pride.
They took all the colours and changed them to grey
With the bodies of millions that died.
They destroy real meaning through their stupid games,
Make life a trial of fear.
They destroy what values we have with their aims,
Make us feel it's wrong if we care.
Well, we do care, it's our home, they've been at it too long,
If it's a fight they want, it's beginning.
Throughout history, we've been expected to sing their tired song
But now it's our turn to lead the singing...

Fight war, not wars,
Make peace, not war.
Fight war, not wars,
We know you've heard it before.
Fight war, not wars,
Make peace, not war.
Fight war, not wars,
Make peace, not war.
Fight war, not wars,
Make love, not war.
Fight war, not wars,
Make love, not war.
1 - 2 - 3 - 4
We don't want your fucking war.
1 - 2 - 3 - 4
We don't want your fucking war.
1 - 2 - 3 - 4

--

MINISTRY - Life Is Good

What do you say to the ones you love
About the shit you've seen?
Third time back from the war in Iraq
A never ending dream
Bodies & limbs scattered all over town
It's all I ever see
Come back home to the same ol' shit
There's nothing here for me

Life is good!

What do you say to the best of friends
When they ask what it's like?
I tell them I kill everything that moves
Within my rifle site
I look into the eyes of my unborn child
And I tell you what I see
The same damn eyes as a day old corpse
On a highway full of IEDs

Life is good!

What do you say to the guy on the street
Who wants to shake your hand
I'd rather take him down then talk to him later
You wouldn't understand
I didn't ever really wanna be this way
But this is what I've become
Can't wait to see my unit again
To live and die by the gun

Life is good!

--

DEAD KENNEDYS - When Ya Get Drafted

Are you believing the morning papers?
War is coming back in style
There's generals here, advisors there
And Russians nibbling everywhere
The chessboard's filling up with red
We make more profits when we blow off their heads

Economy is looking bad
Let's start another war - when ya get drafted
Fan the fires of racist hatred
We want total war - when ya get drafted

Drooling fingers
Panic buttons
Playing with missiles like they're toys
There's easy money, easy jobs
Especially when you build the bombs
That blow big cities off the map
Just guess who profits when we build 'em back up

Yeah, what Big Business wants Big Business gets
It wants a war - when ya get drafted
Trilateral Commission goonies laugh
and scheme for more - when ya get drafted
Call the Army!
Call the Navy!
Stocked with kids from slums - when ya get drafted
If you can't afford a slick attorney
We might make you a spy

Forget your demonstrations
Kids today sit on their ass - when ya get drafted
Just a six-pack
And you're happy
We're prepared
For when ya get drafted

--

LARD - War Pimp Renaissance

War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance

Yippee Kai-Yai-Yai Yo
Evil Commie empire's gone
Yippee Kai-Yai-Yai Yay
Now we're the only one

Let there be peace on earth
What ever gave you that idea?
Economy depends on guns
We'll have an arms race with ourselves

March, March
Forward to the caves

War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance

General who's never been to war
Is like a rapist who's never been laid
Like shootin' fish in a barrel
Inner child must be fed

Deep fry a quarter million ragheads
Into crispy eagle snacks
Pure chewing satisfaction
Pure chewing satisfaction

March, March
Ah Ha Ha Ha

Question ain't, who killed JFK
But, where are they now?

War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance
War Pimp Renaissance

Who's a-gonna buy our missiles
Who's a-gonna buy our guns
Everyone on the whole damned planet
We'll throw in free land mines

Starve the Russians 'til a nut takes over
Put the Arms Race back on boil
As the world's population's exploding
Wars for water, not oil

Too damn many people already
Clutter land we could use for golf
Egg 'em on to bloodbaths like Rwanda
Help 'em eat each other alive

Praise God
We brought the rapture on
Hey, wait for me
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:30 PM
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227. Any links?
Thanks for these lyrics.

Never heard of any of these.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #227
229. Sorry I didn't include any.
Crass was the best anarcho-punk band ever, imo.Might be a bit too harsh for a lot of people, though that would apply to all the songs I listed...be warned :)

Here's Major General Despair from Christ...The Album;



http://crassdiy.tripod.com/Mp3/Major%20General%20Despair.mp3

Ministry's song is from their newest, The Last Sucker, and I can't find anything more than a preview, but here that is;



http://mp3skyline.com/rid-0x4d102-ministry_-_album-mp3-download.html?ref=95&horde_forum&tracker=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fhl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26q%3DMinistry%2Blife%2Bis%2Bgood%2Bmp3%26btnG%3DSearch


The Dead Kennedys were around in the early 80's, and the singer, Jello Biafra, still does music and spoken word stuff, and ran for mayor of SF way back when.One of my all time fav artists.When Ya Get Drafted is from the album Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTefxSxzpoA

Lard is just the band Ministry with Jello doing the vocals (and where my own nic Forkboy came from).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGtZlNsB1-U
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 08:09 PM
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230. Cool
Thanks.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:01 PM
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226. Flag Decal John Prine. This one will make you chuckle.
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 07:24 PM by Snotcicles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1qE2vJdDw4
Check this one out it's not a war song but you'll love it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5axlwCBXC8
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 07:34 PM
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228. spanone posted Flag Decal at #110
Really good. Listening to In Spite of Ourselves now.

Thanks. I've saved this thread - hours of great music here.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 08:39 PM
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232. Us and Them - Pink Floyd
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 08:40 PM by The Gunslinger
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 04:56 AM
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234. Good one
Thanks
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 09:41 PM
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233. Galveston...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzo8rdi3Qi8

Galveston

Galveston, oh Galveston, I still hear your sea winds blowin'
I still see her dark eyes glowin'
She was 21 when I left Galveston

Galveston, oh Galveston, I still hear your sea waves crashing
While I watch the cannons flashing
I clean my gun and dream of Galveston

I still see her standing by the water
Standing there lookin' out to sea
And is she waiting there for me?
On the beach where we used to run

Galveston, oh Galveston, I am so afraid of dying
Before I dry the tears she's crying
Before I watch your sea birds flying in the sun
At Galveston, at Galveston
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:01 AM
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235. Another classic
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vanlassie Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:52 AM
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236. I had to send an email to my favorite KPFA music programmer
to have him remind me of the name of this song.

Richard Shindell's "Reunion Hill."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l12rlGGjxBM

saddest song ever.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 05:01 PM
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237. Damn that's really a tear jerker
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 05:01 PM by malaise
Thanks. First time I'm hearing that one.
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