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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 04:58 PM
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Ken Starr is representing sex offender (child rapist), trying to get him off sex offender list
http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3742569

According to Cordero's lawsuit, first reported on the Web site The Smoking Gun, Epstein "repeatedly lured" the 16-year-old to his Upper East Side Manhattan home by promising to help her with her modeling career. Cordero "engaged in bizarre and unnatural sex acts" with Epstein, the lawsuit claims.

"I love how young you are. You have a tight butt like a baby," Epstein said, according to the lawsuit. He also told Cordero to bring her teenage friends, saying, "I love girls your age," the suit claims.

Cordero insists she was unable to legally consent to the sex acts because she was underage.

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=3717303&page=1

According to The New York Post, Epstein is negotiating a plea deal that is expected to land him in prison for about 18 months in addition to some time under house arrest. As part of the deal, confirmed to ABC News by people familiar with the case, federal authorities are expected to drop their investigation into whether Epstein broke federal laws, which could carry more substantial prison time.

Now, Epstein's high-powered lawyers, including Kenneth Starr, who investigated President Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal, may try to get him out of registering as a sex offender, The Post reported.



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Dewlso Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:01 PM
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1. Ken Starr is representing sex offender
How's that for irony. He must be getting desperate for the limelight of the press.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:03 PM
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2. Ah, those tough-on-crime, Repub family-values at work. Recommended.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:08 PM
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3. Cordero insists she was unable to legally consent to the sex acts
Please ... spare us this "victim." I remember when I was her age.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:27 PM
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5. Technically she is correct.
I understand that some teenagers are very mature for their age, but that doesn't change the fact that she is a minor. Being that she is a minor, she is not legally able to consent to sexual activity.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:58 PM
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10. Minor does not necessarily mean unable to consent.
In my state the age of consent is 16. Maybe it's different in the state she is in.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:00 PM
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11. Point taken.
It does appear, though, that the age of consent in Florida is 18:

794.05 Unlawful sexual activity with certain minors.

(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:15 PM
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13. you gonna be OK with it if a 40 year old man starts banging your kid?
thought not
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:18 PM
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15. It really does not matter one bit what I am o'key with or not.
It matters what the law is. In my state she would be out of luck because the age of consent is 16. It seems to be different in her state.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:21 PM
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16. The rest of the article talks about charges involving 14 year olds
nt
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:12 PM
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12. I was jail bait too. Sorry, this wasn't youthful passion.
I know the law, but been there myself - the whole scene is sordid, but the issue is placement on a lifetime perv list. Spare me this "victim" ... it does nothing for the truly innocent.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:25 PM
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4. Seems like there has been prosecutorial misconduct.
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 05:27 PM by varkam
Eseentially allowing a grand jury to decide what charges to bring is strange, indeed. Methinks it is a way for the prosecutor to dodge responsibilty in this case. If the police say that there is enough evidence to charge him with abuse, then he should be charged with abuse - 'nuff said.

edited to add: The title of your OP is very misleading - you might want to consider changing it.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:34 PM
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6. nothing matters if they are a Republican...
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 05:34 PM by sam sarrha
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:39 PM
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7. Well
that's what attorneys do: represent criminals.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:45 PM
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8. so is Alan "Torture Warrant" Dershowitz...
Alan Dershowitz might in fact be the sleaziest entity on the planet:


Famed Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz met with the Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office and provided damaging information about teenage girls who say they gave his client, Palm Beach billionaire Jeffrey Epstein, sexually charged massages, according to police reports.

(...)

And the documents also reveal that the father of at least one girl complained that private investigators aggressively followed his car, photographed his home and chased off visitors.

Police also talked to somebody who said she was offered money if she refused to cooperate with the Palm Beach Police Department probe of Epstein.

(...)

The case originally was going to be presented to the grand jury in February, but was postponed after Dershowitz produced information gleaned from the Web site myspace.com showing some of the alleged victims commenting on alcohol and marijuana use, according to the police report prepared by Detective Joseph Recarey.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/07/29/s1b_epstein_0729.html


The "damaging information" about the girls that Epstein allegedly paid for erotic acts? Well, they had publicly chatted about drinking alcohol and smoking pot on their myspace pages. That is why they mustn't be believed, according to Dershowitz.

:puke:
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:50 PM
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9. Two sides to the coin.
Any defense attorney is going to try to poke holes in the stories of the alleged victims or try to raise credibility issues as a means of creating reasonable doubt in the minds of jurors. In fact, that's what they have to do in order to be a zealous advocate for their client (especially in cases where the evidence is largely circumstantial.

On the other hand, I personally do not see how alcohol and marijuana use really affects the credibility of the accusers. Nor do I think that such aggressive investigative procedures on the part of the defense should be used, especially not when it seems to cross the line into a criminal act itself (i.e. harassment).
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:16 PM
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14. Valuable experience for a 21st century republican lawyer.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:25 PM
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17. Epstein enjoys sympathetic treatment in NY Post (Rupert Murdoch tabloid)
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152007/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm

First clue you get is the sneer-quotes thrown up around the word...

SEX CASE 'VICTIMS' LINING UP


Then there's the characterization of the victims as "underage hookers" (I guess "underage" and "hooker" kind of cancel each other out, in some people's minds) looking to collect damages in a still-speculative series of civil cases that the writers choose to make their focus -- overshadowing the actual criminal proceedings under way against Epstein.

And the rest seems to be info planted by Epstein's camp in their own interest.


http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152007/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm

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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:26 PM
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18. That's horrid.
Tossing quotes up around the word victim is pretty crass, in my opinion.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:33 PM
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19. NY Post = crass; crass = NY Post. They are synonymous.
You surely didn't expect any better of them, did you?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:06 PM
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20. Who is this Epstein guy?
and why does he have so many high powered people trying to protect him?
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