Al Gore Haters Grow Up

[JackORoses]

You know who you are and what you've done.

Just because the number of Gore-lovers is swelling dramatically, and you feel the rising tide moving to crush the hopes and dreams you've invested in some other less-qualified candidate, does not mean you should strike out in anger.

Join the Party! There is room for us all in the GOREvolution!

And for those who claim to be Gore-friendly, yet continually attack a possible candidacy,
With friends like you, who needs enemies??

[radiclib]

1. JeezizGod give it up!

He's NOT RUNNING. He doesn't WANT to run. He WON'T run. Leave him alone! :banghead:

[movonne]

3. I guess you have a crystal ball..

[radiclib]

11. No, just two ears and an understanding of English

He said he's not running, but obviously to untold numbers of folks 'round here, that doesn't mean he's not running. It means he might run, will run, will accept a draft, will change his mind....anything but what he actually said. And he said he's not running. Good Lord, people...:crazy:

[JackORoses]

13. If you can find a quote of Al Gore saying "I will not run in 2008" then post it

I double dog dare you to...

[radiclib]

21. WOW OK! You win!

No Shermanesque "I will not run". Only "I've lost my love of politics" and "no plans to run". Repeated over and over. You could say he's using weasel words, but I'd prefer to take him at his word. So keep on begging and haranguing, but don't be too heartbroken when it doesn't happen. 'Cuz it ain't happenin'.

[JackORoses]

27. does your certainty help you sleep at night?

I often wonder this about people who would rather be correct in their prior assumptions than actually wanting what's best for the country and the world.

[radiclib]

33. Look, I'd be delighted if I were wrong

but I ain't gonna waste energy chasing a pipe dream. You want to do something constructive? Try putting some pressure on our so called representatives to do the right thing. Besides, you act as though Gore is Superman. He's not. As soon as he started running, he'd have to come down off his pedestal and getting down and dirty with various power brokers. It's like a new car being hugely devalued the second it leaves the lot. He'd probably still be the best candidate, just not God Almighty. We always idealize what we can't have.

[Webster Green]

16. He Must Run!

He must! Do you hear me? HE MUST RUN!! We need him!

[Honeycombe8]

40. Exactly! It just boggles the mind, doesn't it? How...

some people, even in the face of direct evidence, insist that the grass is blue and the sky is green!

GIVE IT UP GIVE IT UP GIVE IT UP. The guy has said he's not running! You can't make him! He doesn't want to! And those who accept his word for it sure don't accept it because they hate him! WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE! :donut: THE GORE DREAM IS O-V-E-R!

[Breeze54]

2. "Gore Haters"? WTF?

I think you exaggerate. Are they the same as "Hillary Haters"? :P

I haven't seen any "Gore Haters" here.

What forums are you hanging out in? :shrug:

[MonkeyFunk]

4. Never heard anybody here

say they even dislike Gore, much less hate him.

But that doesn't mean he's running for President.

[JackORoses]

15. No, you just said Al wouldn't win the Nobel because he didn't deserve it.

That's True Love if you ask me.

[eyesroll]

24. I don't think that's what MonkeyFunk posted, but even if he did...

My parents, my SO, my stepchild won't win the Nobel because they don't deserve it. I suppose I'm a Family Hater, right?


(I'm pretty sure MonkeyFunk said others were more deserving -- that's a big difference, and on which something reasonable people can disagree.)

[JackORoses]

34. so that makes Al less deserving, right?

It was an obvious slight at Al.

Monkeyfunk likes Hillary, so she must attack any threat. Even if that threat is honorable enough to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

[MonkeyFunk]

57. Yes, I do like Clinton

I also like Obama, Biden and Richardson.

I'm still unsure who to vote for between Obama and Clinton.

But my personal preference has nothing to do with your absurd assertion that there's any noticeable "Gore-hate" here.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. Nope

didn't say that.

I did, however, say there were others more deserving, and I think that's true.

And when Gore did win I was thrilled.

So no, I don't hate Gore. I enthusiastically supported in him in 2000, and I supportwhat he's doing now.

That's not hate.

[JackORoses]

53. why would you make a flagrant post like that on the eve of his Nobel?

you weren't killing him with kindness, that's for sure

[MonkeyFunk]

56. Why do I need a reason to post

on DU? People here make predictions every day.

You're wrong that I hate Al Gore.

[JackORoses]

61. You can post whatever you want,

but that doesn't mean nay-saying a Man's chances for a Nobel prize on the eve of it's awarding isn't mean-spirited.

[monmouth]

5. I don't hate Gore, just the stupid posts nagging him to run...Poor guy..n/t

[Swamp Rat]

6. NeoGore is "The One!"

NeoGore haters will be assimilated by the Matrix. :D

[Breeze54]

10. LMAO!

Which one will you choose, Neo?

[supernova]

7. Haven't seen a lot of Gore hate here lately

Have I missed something? :shrug:

[JackORoses]

18. stick around a little longer

It's disguised as many things.

Version 1 - the MSM Brainwash:
Al Gore is never running because MSM says so, don't waste your time

Version 2 - the 'Real' Candidate:
Supporting Al Gore takes away from some 'real' candidate who needs your vote and cash.

Version 3 - the Hillary Switcharoo:
I love Al Gore, but he's not running, so vote Hillary!

Version 4 - the Hillary Ultimatum:
Even if Al does run, He will lose to Hillary

Version 5 - the Restore Gore Especial:
Supporting Al Gore as President actually damages his campaign to curb Global Warming. So quit trying to kill the Earth and leave Al alone, he's my friend!

There are so many more. Enjoy all the flavors!

[Honeycombe8]

41. No one left of center or who cares about the environment hates Gore.

If you think so, that's paranoia.

There are those, like me, who love Gore, would vote for him in a heartbeat (I'd brave wind, rain, snow, and sleet to go vote for him), but who have faced reality.

Maybe he hasn't used the words that YOU would like him to. But he's been consistent with the public and his long-time friends, and about as definite as any politician is as to future events. He's not running. He doesn't want to run.

It's reality time. Time to decide on your second choice.

[JackORoses]

44. "and about as definite as any politician is as to future events"

except in 2002, when Al definitively said, " I will not run."

Hey look, I was able to find a politician being definite, and it just so happens it's the same guy we are talking about.
What do you make of that?

[Honeycombe8]

59. Sigh. Can't argue with people who will not see.

He doesn't have to use the magic beans that you want him to. He's used his own beans.

He's made it clear to the entire country except a handful of people, who just can't seem to face reality.

He's not running. If what it takes is more time, then fine. You will have to admit it on primary day, when his name is not on the ballot. But don't accuse others who don't fear reality of being disloyal to Gore and not liking him. Because we acknowledge that it's raining, when it is in fact raining, does not mean we hate the sun.

[JackORoses]

60. "Can't argue with people who will not see." That's the way I feel.

Can't you just admit that you don't know for certain that he is not running?

What will happen to your certainty when his name is on the Ballot?

You're so sure of yourself.

At least I can admit he may not be running, though I believe he will.

Also, the only ones being disloyal to Gore are those who try to bend the minds of others towards their candidate by downplaying and detracting from a Gore candidacy.
I've said it again and again. Liking another candidate is no problem, but trying to curb the growing Gore support by muddying the waters about his potential for running is wrong.

[stevedeshazer]

8. I like Al. He's not running. He's said so himself. What part don't you understand?

Sincerely,

The Campaign For Russ Feingold, who also isn't running.

[undeterred]

14. Exactly!

Check out my Wisconsin poll. We love Feingold, but we accept that he's not running. *Poll was posted before Gore firmly announced he wasn't running a few days ago...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=186x22540

[stevedeshazer]

19. If Russ ran, I'd be on board in a nanosecond. This 'Gore is God' BS is insulting.

I don't understand it.

Should the Beatles reunite? Oh, wait...

Look, Gore supporters. Sincerely. He's NOT running.

Maybe he should have challenged the election results in 2000, sycophants.

He didn't. He lost by one Supreme Court vote.

It's history, people.

Please move forward or step aside.

[undeterred]

22. Look for Russ to be on a lot of short lists for VP

Not Hillary's, but Obama or Edwards would consider him.

[BuyingThyme]

9. Yeah.

You guys are all goose heads.

[frogcycle]

12. "You know who you are and what you've done."

sounds ominous

do you know where their kids go to school?
are you going to send the faux news security to whisk them to gitmo?

[SlowDownFast]

17. This is flamebait.

And just for the record, I'm a volunteer in the DraftGore movement.

Those who think Gore is not running are entitled to their opinions (even though I still think their naysaying is poopy), just as those who think he might run are entitled to theirs.

[stevedeshazer]

20. He's not running

If he does, I promise I will join you in supporting him.

[SlowDownFast]

29. "He's not running"

Not YET, he's not.

Hence, the movement to draft him - until he issues the 'Shermanesque' statement and/or endorses someone else.

[stevedeshazer]

31. Do you think he will?

I don't.

[SlowDownFast]

46. Can't say.

50/50.

But until he issues a straightforward, resounding "No. Absolutely not. The DraftGore people should stop and focus on other things, etc", like he did in '04 - I will continue to hold out in hopes that he will.

I believe Gore is very aware of the nationwide DraftGore Movement, which now has grown substantially bigger than when it was told to stop in '04.

[JackORoses]

25. of course it is

But we Gore Supporters are allowed to have some fun too, aren't we? :)

I just get tired of reading post after post which claim to be in the collective public interest telling us why we're wasting our time and being egocentric in our support.

[mondo joe]

23. If there is ANYONE I've not seen hate for on DU it's Al Gore.

Probably Dennis Kucinich would be next.

So I'm just in the dark on this.

[JackORoses]

28. don't get me wrong, the majority here love Al

That wasn't who I was speaking to.

My message was for the small, vocal minority who continually crash pro-Gore threads or post negative ones of their own.

[mondo joe]

30. Okay. Plainly I may have missed those threads, especialy since you say the

group is a small minority, but in all sincerity I've never seen them.

[terrya]

26. That must have been on Bizarro Democratic Underground

Because I've never, ever, ever seen any Gore hating on THIS Democratic Underground.

I think quite a few people here, including myself, believe that Al Gore will not run for President. And we respect his decision.

[Yael]

37. Careful -- if you add facts to the mix, this could get confusing quick

:sarcasm:

[MADem]

32. Al Gore could clear this up with a Sherman statement--and he has yet to offer one.

Until he does, HE'S the guy 'keeping hope alive.'

And that's the truth.

Senator Clinton said she had "NO PLANS" to run for President, too.

Look, if he decides to jump in, that's up to him. The longer he waits, the easier it gets--and cheaper, too. Because he wouldn't jump in unless he could move a shitload of support from the top tier runners to himself with a simple announcement.

I think it's silly to get MAD at people who, based on his non-denial "I have no plans" denial, hold out hope that he might jump in. Hectoring them isn't going to make them support the candidate(s) of the hectorers, in any event.

[Deja Q]

35. Oh good grief.

Al has said he is not running. Are there not other candidates or topics to better blow one's fuse over?

[JackORoses]

38. no blown fuse here

just poking fun at those who make serious efforts to snuff out a Gore campaign.

It's amazing to me that when Al says, "I'm not planning on running",
by the time it gets filtered through the MSM it has been translated into "I am not running".

Can you really not see the purposeful difference in the language?

And if you can see the difference, then what do you suspect is the reason for this?

ah hah!

[SlowDownFast]

54. "Al has said he is not running."

Link please.

[Yael]

36. Who hates Al Gore?

I mean, seriously. Pick your battles a little more carefully and all that.

[AtomicKitten]

39. I would be thrilled if Al Gore throws his hat in the ring.

[emilyg]

42. How strange. Nobody hates Gore - some of us

simply accept he won't run.

[JackORoses]

43. so you would vote for Al if he runs?

No
oh, what's that, you're a Hillary fan?
How surprising.

So really, you don't want Al to run.
Isn't that a little closer to the truth?

[emilyg]

45. I don't HATE Gore.

[renie408]

47. I am starting to hate him.

I didn't. I loved him. I sent him letters. I signed the petitions. I prayed to the all knowing universe to give him the desire to run. But so far, no joy. And you know what? I am getting to the point that if he says he is going to run now, I am going to be a little peeved. Cause it is OCTOBER 20TH. At this point, I would feel kinda jerked around. In fact, I AM feeling kinda jerked around. I have gotten to the point where I don't THINK he is going to run. But I have this little niggle of hope. If he would come out and endorse somebody else or just say, "NO, really, I am not running for President in '08.", we could all just get on with it. But he won't. So, yeah, I am starting to love old Al less and less.

[SlowDownFast]

55. Ahhhh, but you'll love him all that much more when he enters the race. n/t

[mopinko]

49. it is sad that so few here understand such a basic rite-

every candidate says they are not running until they say they are. duh. al knows full well what a sherman statement is. he knows how to make one. he has not done so. neither has he given a HINT of endorsing any other candidate.
really people. politics 101. announce when you announce. don't announce till you are ready to announce. duh.

but i must agree there are no gore haters, just gore supporter haters.

[Harper_is_Bush]

50. If a person doesn't think he should run for reasons other than some other candidate, r they a hater?

I don't want him to run, but I have reasons other than "some other less-qualified candidate".

[Blue-Jay]

51. Wow.

Are you really saying that people who don't think Gore is going to run are "Gore haters"?

That's taking stupid to a new level.

[JackORoses]

52. No, People who actively try to diminish or snuff a Gore candidacy are, though

'gore supporter haters' may have been a better phrase for the title of this topic but it was mostly tongue-in-cheek anyway

[MonkeyFunk]

58. You think Gore

won't run based on what somebody says on DU? That's laughable.

Nobody here has the power to diminish or snuff a Gore candidacy. Likewise, nobody here has the power to cause a Gore candidacy, either.

[JackORoses]

64. Gore won't do anything based on DU, but potential supporters will.

Making postings which attempt to persuade others he is not running can have a real effect.

If people have been falsely convinced that there is no chance of a Gore candidacy, they will be less likely to vote for him in polls, sign petitions, volunteer, donate, etc. etc.

If you don't want Gore to run, that's fine.
But don't go trying to make others believe he isn't a possibility just because you want them to vote for your candidate.

[ecstatic]

62. LOL. Is one who prefers Al Gore to sit this one out a hater?

Hmmm...

[JustAnotherGen]

63. Aaahh

I don't hate Gore. I DO love JRE. But I respect the hell out of anyone who wants a Democrat (any Democrat but Hill) being in the White House in 2008.

I don't hate Hillary either - I voted for her when I lived in NY State. But I don't think she can beat Huckabee. And just like she's being Christened Queen by the Media - so are Romney and Ghouliani. BUT - when you dig into the polls? I think their guy is going to be Huckabee.