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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:25 PM
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Mayor Nine Eleveniani's "man of prayer" performance today: I could just vomit.


...Mr. Giuliani also spoke about his own faith and said his reliance on God’s guidance was at “the core of who I am.” He said he understood and agreed with the feelings of many that their “values are under assault by a culture that is moving in the wrong direction.”....

David and Merrily Crowe of Tennessee, who run an evangelical group called Restore America, said they arrived at the convention hall this morning skeptical but curious about Mr. Giuliani. They came away moved by what they described as his “honesty” and “transparency.”

“My wife leaned over to me afterward and said, ‘I’m going to vote for him,’” Mr. Crowe said. “And I probably will, too.”

Mr. Giuliani spoke with a tone of humility, saying at one point: “I come to you today as I would if I were your president, with an open mind and an open heart, and all I ask is that you do the same. Please know this, you have absolutely nothing to fear from me.”

When he spoke about the need for more inclusiveness among conservatives, he alluded to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. “Christians and Christianity is all about inclusiveness,” he said. “It’s built around the most profound act of love in human history, isn’t it?”...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/21/us/politics/21values.html?em&ex=1193025600&en=437b7d6ce9e23cc1&ei=5087%0A

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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:32 PM
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1. Profound love and simultaneously refusal to provide health care to our most vulnerable?
How "compassionately conservative".

:puke:

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:32 PM
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2. "Restore America"?
Restore it from one corrupt and morally bankrupt chickenhawk administration into another?

Someone needs to give these fine folks a dictionary, or at least a link to m-w.com
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:34 PM
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3. Good God, if the evangelicals accept him, then there will be no
big Republican split, no "sit-home" protest. No third party. Shit.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:54 PM
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4. Are the Christian Freaks really so shallow that they can't spot an impostor
or is the entire movement such a cynical pretense that anyone willing to mouth the proper formulas is accepted uncritically?


The core of that asswipe is self-serving and psychopathic. If Jesus acted according to Republican values, the only support Giuliani would get would be from the Lightning Rod Marketing Association.



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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 06:56 PM
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5. The entire movement is such a cynical pretense etc. nt
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:03 PM
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6. Am I wrong
or is it ridiculously easy to fool Christian rightwingers?

You just mouth all the holy roller crap, throw in a few sentences about love, your heart, valuing fetuses, and bingo, they get all warm and fuzzy.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:05 PM
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7. Well, they are all about "faith".
It's too bad that that sector of Christians don't use the discerning brains that they would think their creator gave them!
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 08:12 PM
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8. My third wife and I believe our core values are under assault
Are these people seriously stupid? Do they not see his hypocrisy?? At least James Dobson is alive enough to see the Giuliani is a rank hypocrite.
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