Rove, Jeb Bush discuss democracy at Pat Robertson's university

[cosmicdot]

Oct 26, 8:55 PM EDT

Rove, Jeb Bush discuss democracy at Pat Robertson's university

By SONJA BARISIC
Associated Press Writer

VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) -- Former top presidential adviser Karl Rove began a debate Friday on "should America bring democracy to the world" with a simple response to that question: "Obviously, my answer is yes."

Former Sen. Max Cleland, D-Ga., said his answer was "yes, by example, but not by force," setting up a complicated and at times testy discussion between the two men - as well as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and retired Army Gen. Barry McCaffrey - that was dominated, naturally, by the Iraq war.

The men spoke at a forum at Regent University, the Christian school founded by religious broadcaster Pat Robertson.

The most contentious moment during the debate erupted between Rove and Cleland, a Vietnam veteran and former member of the national commission that investigated the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Cleland lost his Senate seat to Republican Saxby Chambliss, who suggested Cleland was soft on terrorism, and Cleland supporters said Rove was behind that.

Cleland pointedly asked Rove "why didn't the Bush White House go after Osama bin Laden? Why are we wasting time in Iraq?"

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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/SOU_ROVE_REGENT_VAOL-?SITE=VANOV&SECTION=STATE

guess the editor's title couldn't fit in the name 'Max Cleland' nor just say 'Regent University'

[KamaAina]

1. Max Cleland spoke at a forum at Regent University*?!

Ouch. That's gotta hurt.

[angstlessk]

2. Exaclty...top billing goes to the people who NEVER SAW WAR!

edit: WOW..boosh (jeb) what about people who steal democracy with elections (Chavez) IMAGINE HOW VERY STUPID THAT QUESITON IS???? POPULAR IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH..YOU MUST BE PRO AMERICAN NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU RESIDE IN?

Jeb did NOT allow that to happen in America...democracy being stolen by elections :GRR: OR IS IT :grr:

[NYC]

3. I like Cleland's answer.

...Former Sen. Max Cleland, D-Ga., said his answer was "yes, by example, but not by force..."

[ShortnFiery]

4. Why am I envisioning a potential episode of "Supernatural?"

:silly:

Any hoo, I hope the Max Cleland and the audience brought their crucifixes and holy water ... well, just in case Jeb and Carl started talking in tongues, their heads spin around as they spew soup. :crazy:

[nightrider767]

5. Who Let Rove Out of his bottle!?!

That scumbag!

He literally is the ugly little guy pulling the levers "behind the curtain".

With one exception. That being that the Wizard of OZ eventually learned his lesson, were-as this stupid mother-fu$ker will never.

That's where the real world parts company with fiction.

[Olney Blue]

6. Cleland is a true patriot. Rove is a traitor.

[JohnnyLib2]

7. Cleland -- fearless.

I'm not surprised that he agree to be there. Rove should hang his head in shame, but of course he doesn't understand that.

[liberal N proud]

8. That's not exactly Democracy they are talking about

More like fascism

On edit, that is Jebby and KKKarl I refer to. Cleland is a true patriot.

[Baby Snooks]

9. But force works!

I wonder if anyone ever stops to think about our forcing democracy on anyone which is the Bush policy and always has been. Democracy at the end of a gun, anyone's gun, is dictatorship. But then the Bushes know that. That is what they seek here. Dictatorship. Not democracy. And it looks as if they have succeeded finally.

I am surprised Max Cleland agreed to share a stage with Karl Rove. Actually I am surprised anyone would. He is beneath contempt. And certainly beneath civil discourse. Karl Rove belongs in prison. Not on a stage debating democracy. Which he doesn't believe in. But then neither does Regent University. And neither does Pat Robertson.

[NYC]

15. I assume that's why Cleland went.

We can't allow people like Rove to discuss and define democracy.

[smokey nj]

10. Karl Rove and Jeb Bush discuss democracy? Isn't that like Joan Crawford and Brittney Spears

discussing childcare?
:shrug:

[fedupinBushcountry]

11. I was there

I actually stepped foot on cultville for the first time ever to support Max. It was very hard to stomach Rove, Bush, Robertson and the nut Sekulow (ACLJ). I applauded for one person and one person only Max. C-Span was there and to tell you the truth it was a very boring debate and Max was outnumbered 3-1, I do not consider McCaffrey one of us.

Another Duer (Beachmom) was there with me, it was all RW spin and the kool-aid drinkers filled up the auditorium.

[JohnnyLib2]

13. Brave soul.

And Cleland deserves such support when and where possible. Thank you.

[NYC]

14. I'm glad you went. Cleland deserved your support.

You were very brave, and so was Cleland.

[cosmicdot]

16. Max was outnumbered 3-1

that meets the Faux News 'fair and balance' standard

[Lint Head]

12. Into the fascist belly we storm!

May the fascists vomit freedom with their last breath. :dem: