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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 12:56 PM
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I really like Howard Dean
his radio address today was beautiful. Dr. Dean was really able to slam shrub and his war spending while killing him and his party with the veto of SCHIP.

I wasn't a big fan of his during his run for the Presidency but he has been a fantastic breath of fresh air in his role as the head of the DNC. I really admire the 50 State strategy that the old guard called misguided. I'm convinced it gave us at least 3 or 4 House seats that we never would have taken and it gives us a real presence throughout the country.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:01 PM
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1. In my dream world...
...we would have eight wonderful, prosperous years of a Gore-Dean administration, in DC.

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:12 PM
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2. I was heart broken when he lost Iowa.
I was more depressed that night than I was the election nights in 2000 and 2004. :(
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:42 PM
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4. Dean's campaign in Iowa in 2004 was sabotaged by other Democrats.
We had a relative in Iowa working on the Dean campaign. Dean supporters were given bad information about when and where they were supposed to go for caucusing. Unknown persons would call undecided caucus delegates and ask them to support Dean - this was done at 2:00 A.M. This was deliberate sabotage as Dean supporters were a lot smarter than that, and the persons with the best access to the information needed to pull off something like that would be Democrats.

And then there was the famous "scream" which was "enhanced" by manipulation of the microphone amplifiers. Instead of defending their own by pointing out this manipulation, it was Democrats who used the "scream" as a cudgel against Dean.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:50 PM
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5. I bet it wasn't Dems doing the tricks
I'd bet anything it was Karl at work. They were scared to death of Howard but ready to smear Kerry.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 02:02 PM
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6. I know a lot of ugly stuff went down...especially with Gephardt.
Obviously this is my opinion, but I think Gephardt was bought off by a campaign to go all-out on Dean in his attacks. This created a semi-controversy late in the game where many said Dean and Gephardt were playing dirty politics. When in reality, it was completely one-sided. That's when Dean's numbers in the polls began to slip and Kerry/Edwards swooped in to win the caucus.

I'm not going to say who did it, because I don't know, but I think Gephardt knew he was going down and sabotaged Dean while doing it. That set up the SCREAM speech, which was nothing but Dean trying to talk over a noise crowd of supporters. I heard his speech FROM the crowd and there was no yelling. You're right, it was only enhanced by the mic. Too bad the media decided to do a witch hunt in the week after Iowa, which set up a catastrophic result in New Hampshire. In fact, Dean's numbers were actually rising heading into the New Hampshire primary, but he was too wounded by the media's response to his speech to make any noise. Had they not made an issue of it -- and Democrats defended him -- Dean probably would not have dropped as fast from Iowa to New Hampshire and could still have managed to win the NH Primary.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:19 PM
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3. I agree
I wasn't too happy with him and the way he was campaigning, but since then he has really shined. He's a real asset to the party
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 02:09 PM
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7. What weren't you happy with?
How was Dean's campaigning objectionable.?
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 03:59 PM
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8. I felt he was campaigning against the Democratic Party
and that's a hot button issue for this yella dog
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