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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:35 AM Original message |
Believe it or not Millions of Americans think UFOs, ESP and ghosts are real -- that's a problem |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities- Voltaire |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is not a problem, it is a BENEFIT to Bushies and all totalitarians |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Forgive me if I don't consider my belief in the paranormal |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. "People who can be made to believe absuirdities can be made to commit atrocities." |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
106. Rest assured sir |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
136. The key word in that phrase is MADE. Being MADE to believe something is a far different matter than |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
316. No, just wishful thinking. n/t |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Yep. The "History" Channel plays this crap and "fear Osama" crap... |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm not near as worried... |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think it is a problem. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I don't think you understand |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I must disagree |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. And still today 30% of Americans will swear we found WMDs in Iraq too |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
192. No, I don't see, and I think your analogy is inapt, to say the least. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
224. Clearly that 30% also means 30% of DUers. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
315. Is it possible for people to be fooled? |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Oh I do understand |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Why don't any of those folks collect the million dollars from James Randi then? |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I tried to call Randi |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:32 AM Original message |
As they say easy come easy go |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
20. I should |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #15 |
58. Because they cannot prove whatever it was |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #58 |
122. Hallucinating? One of the UFOs (UNIDENTIFIED flying objects)... |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
206. Must have been a hot date, to walk away from extra-terrestrial life... n/t |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #206 |
210. Posted reported seeing UNIDENTIFIED flying object, not ET |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #210 |
248. It was more of an inference than an assumption, given that the "posted" felt the incident was |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #248 |
255. Still, nada about ET |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #255 |
261. Prove it wasn't about ET. |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #261 |
318. Did it have eight reindeer? |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
66. Because Randi is a sensationalist skeptic |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. No, the proof is simple standard science. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
199. Thanks for posting those links |
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blueDachi (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
235. Nice to see... |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
243. Thank you, Zodiak |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
158. Do you know how many people have tried to collect on that million dollars? They've even sued Randi |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #158 |
201. And they can't collect because THEY CAN'T PROVE their claims. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #201 |
234. No, Randi refuses to pony up -- he's a liar and charlatan |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #234 |
236. "globa issues such as ESP"? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #236 |
242. Is your ability to debate this limited to making fun of typing errors? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. It wasn't the typing error I was laughing at. I promise. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #244 |
245. Mondo, you're a mechanistic true believer |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #245 |
246. To the contrary, I am open to any idea or phenomenon. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #246 |
247. Why does something need "empirical evidence" to "exist"? What do you mean by "exist"? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #247 |
250. I'm not prepared to tutor basic scientific principles. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #250 |
256. Clearly, I understand more about the scientific method than do you |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #256 |
262. Wow, two fallacies in one post: authority and ad hominem |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #262 |
265. Ah, yet another tactical evasion! lol |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #265 |
267. Funny that you say it can't be proved, but also that you posted proof. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #236 |
306. I don't think that is true |
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Laurier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #158 |
284. None of them have met the challenge, and those who have sued have lost. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
52. I have believed in the "paranormal" for most of my life through personal experiences, |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
194. I don't think YOU understand.. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
211. Perhaps, but DEFINATELY not assured |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
271. What an absurd jump to conclusions. |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:52 AM Response to Original message |
6. People who believe in Ghosts and UFO's are a problem? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
45. Perhaps they know something someone else doesn't know? |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
8. Be afraid, be very afraid!!!! |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
9. People who believe in ghosts, UFOs and ESP.... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
12. Believe it or not, hundreds of millions of Americans believe in a magic sky being |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. I see no difference in believing in UFOs, ghosts, angels, god(s) |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. What about a "force" that can't be perceived with your senses? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I can't deny this universe or this life. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #27 |
38. If it's an unmeasurable force, how would I know it exists to begin with? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Well, that's the point. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
76. You would see the results in the world. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Love is a chemical reaction that can be observed. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
107. Sorry, that's too dumb to respond to. /nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. That's an easy evasion for you. |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #108 |
196. I challenge you to a duel, you may have the sword I'll be using this bic. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #196 |
202. I'll have logic and reason as my tools of choice, thank you. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #76 |
117. i think "love" begins somewhere in the limbic system |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #76 |
272. "Love can move mountains"... |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
324. Are you saying that you wouldn't know if you were in freefall? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
53. I'm guessing that it's at least 75% of the population who believe |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
54. Why the hell do these threads always become an indictment of theists? |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Because it is the same thing |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Not a very good reader I see. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
144. You woo woos give metaphysics a bad name. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Whether you believe in god(s) / astrology / spooks / fairies - it's all the same to me. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Well, perhaps it is is because those who believe in ghosts, UFOs, etc. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. There should seriously be some kind of |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I look down on people who proclaim things exist - like WMDs - for which there is no |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Well, since I didn't, and that's not the subject here |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. But that's the point. People who proclaim things exist for which there is no |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. I think there's a rather large difference between |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. If it tires you, take a nap. Or stop doing. Or stop needing others' aproval. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #88 |
97. Don't you worry |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Your posting history indicates that you're deeply concerned with others opinions |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. And yet that was his experience |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Who are you to say it was madness???? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #105 |
114. Actually, perhaps you're right. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #114 |
118. And then there's Bush peering into others' hearts and knowing whether they |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #70 |
81. I don't find religious belief silly, why should I? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Certainly |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #91 |
99. But religious people do use various apparitions, encounter, and such, including "pictures" |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #99 |
111. Cute way to change your syntax, but you've already said enough |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. And frankly even a burnt piece of toast |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. Oh, that just burns you, doesn't it. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Burns me? That you're full of crap? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #86 |
92. LOL, there you go again, refusing to believe anything that's not on the Internets |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Grand, so go reply |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
274. People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at... |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. Some people believe Sun-Times Columnist NEIL STEINBERG - - that's a problem. n/t |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #14 |
43. exactly! n/t |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:22 AM Response to Original message |
16. What's the difference between believing in UFOs and ghosts, and |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. And some people handle snakes and drink poison too |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Hey if that's what turns them on |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
22. Does Neil Steinberg believe in God? |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. That's what I was wondering |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
24. Who has proof that God exists? No one. So why aren't all believers |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Who is saying they are not crackpots? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Agree -- believing in a "god" is a national delusion -- |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
128. all those who believe in a god ARE crackpots. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #128 |
154. Will you concede that some of us crackpots |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:13 AM Response to Reply #154 |
291. There's a difference between true spirituality and organized patriarchal religion... |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #291 |
305. Thanks for your response |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. there is a lot more possible evidence of ufos than there is of god |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
30. Maybe our world is so "demon-haunted"* because our jobs are mostly meaningless, |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #30 |
309. ^ This. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
31. lots of folks believe in a man in the sky with a white beard....... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
32. People who believe in Bush, WMDs and the Iraq-911 connection are a REAL problem. |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
33. I'm sort of agnostic about all those things. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
34. I don't believe in anything ... including that anyone knows everything about anything |
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Gin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I believe in Ghosts, ESP and even though I haven't seen one...UFO's....... |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Some people need to believe they understand everything and anyone who doesn't agree is dumb |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #44 |
60. Amen to that. n/t |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
69. To the contrary: we undertand what we understand. Making shit up because it makes |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
153. With this post, you have merely proved my point |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #153 |
174. If you can prove it to yourself, why can't you prove it to anyone else? |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #174 |
238. Very simple proof that this is not a mechanical universe |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:06 AM Response to Reply #238 |
289. It doesn't sound simple. Also doesn't sound like much of a proof, given the incoherence and all n/t |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:07 AM Response to Reply #289 |
295. It's evidence ... whether you choose to accept it as proof is your subjective determination |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #289 |
312. If you review the thread you'll find Melody projects a lot that isn't there. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #153 |
197. You may not make upyour experience - you may make up what it means. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #197 |
240. How do you know what I think it means? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #240 |
257. I don't know or care what you think it means. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #257 |
263. For someone who reacts very emotionally, I find it odd you're so against emotion |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #263 |
264. But I'm not against emotion. Another error on your part. |
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BuddhaGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #44 |
101. Agreed |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
36. Some believe in Chemtrails also... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Maybe because the government has legislation on Chemtrails -- ????? |
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quickesst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
39. How pathetic.... |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
40. But, but, all these things are real. The problem is those believing in gods and devils. The ones |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. No one has asked for records since Sen. Steven Schiff's death --- |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
46. What an ass. No, I'm more concerned with the huge majority of people |
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Hersheygirl (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
47. That's funny |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #47 |
71. how many universes are there? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
178. But that is not an either/or alternative |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
49. I don't think they're any harder to believe in than.. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
51. Apparently, Jimmy Carter and Buzz Aldrin are nutcases, then? LINK: |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I thought Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin was still looking for Noah's Ark ? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Your point is? |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
150. James Irwin, not Aldrin, searched for Noah's Ark. Since we're talking about adhering to factual |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Along with Alexander the Great, Edmund Halley, and |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
56. Honey where I live, most of the people believe that the son of god died for their sins. |
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gulfcoastliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
62. Yep, I believe the government when they say UFOs do not exist and there are WMDs in Iraq... |
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OxQQme (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
65. One of my favored topics |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #65 |
290. Yep . . . looks like we're hybrids -- a rather disappointing lot overall -- |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
73. UFOs are real |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
266. Yes. Until it's identified, it's a UFO |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
75. The problem lies with those who accept the word of "authority" without question. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. I would counter that the problem is people who fall for things for which there is |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #83 |
89. You cannot conflate the two. Belief in WMDs in Iraq is an acceptance of the word of authority. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. No, both are the result of accepting claims without scrutiny or requirement of |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
130. Your point is still fallacious. It CAN be proved whether or not WMD are present in any particular |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. But you're applying a standard of proof to one claim and not another. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #132 |
139. Because they are two completely different things. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. Answers to your question: |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #142 |
146. "If ghosts exist, they are not subjective - they must exist external to you and be quantifiable." |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #146 |
193. If things exist objectively they are quantifiable. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #193 |
203. Sure, have whatever opinion you want, it makes no difference to me. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #203 |
205. Apparently it does make some difference as you continue to want to discuss it. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #205 |
209. Oh well, excuse me. I replied to your post to me because that's generally what I do when someone |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #209 |
212. Nighty night. NT |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #75 |
84. You make good points |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
124. Well, of course I was generalizing to make the point that there are "supernatural beliefs" that fall |
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DemExpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #75 |
119. Well said, scarletwoman, I agree that the article's author has it backwards. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #119 |
141. Thank you. It frankly stuns me that so few people comprehend the real dichotomy here. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #141 |
204. Authority is not relevant. Empirical evidence is. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #204 |
207. Why do you care? What skin is it off your nose if someone else believes they've seen ghosts? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. What do you care if I think it's pathetic and lame? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #208 |
213. I'm NOT concerned with "your approval". YOU posted a comment to MY post. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #213 |
214. Why do you care what others think about your claims about spirits? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #214 |
221. What claims? I've repeatedly said that these are subjective personal experiences. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #221 |
225. No, it's really not clear. But I'm not interested enough to push for more. |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:08 AM Response to Reply #221 |
299. That was clear enough for me. |
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AgadorSparticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #141 |
292. I'm very surprised too. You made very good points. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
77. Someone else pointed out this are of DU to me: |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #77 |
87. You must know that more people are open minded there than |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Sorry, I just can't take seriously things like "wiping down your aura". |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
109. I should have said calling out. Please don't misunderstand me |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Yeah well you, OhioBlue, suck! |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #112 |
140. ... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #87 |
95. Open minded is half of the ideal - applying scrutiny is the other half. |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. I have no problem with that. nt |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #95 |
120. Being open minded is great; just don't be so open minded that your brains fall out. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Like when Bush peers into others' souls - why not be open minded about it? |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
137. Exactly. Great examples. :) |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:34 AM Response to Reply #120 |
302. Oh you mean like when Jerry Falwell, |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #302 |
329. Yeah exactly like that! |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
94. My dad saw some at night around our house. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #94 |
102. Why would your dad be able see things that high resolution satellites in space can't see? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #102 |
123. This would have been around 1970. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #123 |
131. Our government doesn't own all of the satellites though |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Good point. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #131 |
157. On the other hand, for purposes of argument, all gov'ts have a vested interest in the status quo |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #157 |
227. Of course any technology that could achive intergalactic flight would't need |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #227 |
229. Don't you remember the Prime Directive? ;) n/t |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. Hehehehe |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #94 |
110. Did you guys do any follow-up? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #110 |
125. This was 1970, and there were no digital cameras. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #125 |
134. No need to be defensive. I would be thrilled to see someone substantiate any of these claims. |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. Thanks. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #134 |
195. But as you illustrated upthread, people who see things that others say don't exist, |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
96. Even worse, they believe the news media and the Bush administration |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
113. I urge everyone to read Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World. |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Great book; always save room for it on my shelf. n/t |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
116. That not one post has been deleted in this thread is the real miracle here |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. So.... You're saying you believe in miracles? |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
126. I think the problem is not whether people believe or not. |
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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
129. Is belief in God a problem? |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #129 |
145. Simple answer. UFOs are a real possibility. We send vehicles to other planets |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #145 |
183. We do not, however, send vehicles to other star systems, nor do we plan to. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. Fifty years ago nobody planned to be talking on message boards. But here we are. n/t |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. Sending messages at the speed of light, |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #183 |
190. You've heard of Jupiter and Saturn, I assume. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #190 |
217. Are you suggesting there is life on Jupiter or Saturn that is sophisticated enough |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #190 |
249. Jupiter and Saturn are gas giants. They're not exactly solid planets or particularly |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #190 |
254. Are you suggesting that Jupiter and Saturn are capable of supporting intelligent life? |
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Milo_Bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
135. I believe the study is very wrong. |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
143. Personal experiences give me an open mind to the supernatural and UFOs ... & I don't believe Bush! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
147. The big ptoblem is that people use personal experience, anecdote, and "common knowledge" to.... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. The only "assertion" I see being "justified" on this thread is the idiotic assertion made |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #149 |
164. The exact nonsense you believe |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. Why post a reply to me? Nothing in your post addresses any of my points. (nt) |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #165 |
169. It's a direct reply to your post, yes. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #169 |
175. Ah, "nutters" is it? That would apparently apply to all those who have not attained your perfected |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Well, of course you are. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #176 |
189. Show me anywhere in any of my posts on this thread where I have claimed to the know the Truth. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #189 |
259. See, the problem with that argument is that there isn't. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #259 |
273. People climb into bear cages at the zoo and get killed, too. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #273 |
277. I'd certainly agree those people are far more destructive and dangerous. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #277 |
279. In that order, I hope. |
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piesRsquare (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #169 |
226. And what data do you have to support such statements? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #226 |
231. Data? He don't need no steenking data, he just KNOWS. (nt) |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #231 |
252. It may be wise to first confirm that I have no data before embarrassing yourself so. nt |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #252 |
258. Oh my gosh! I am SOOOOOO embarrassed that I made a smarky remark! |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #258 |
260. Of course not. That wouldn't support your world-view, |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #260 |
270. Thank goodness. I just HATE having my psyche molested. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #226 |
251. Well, first you have to realize that we're talking sociology, |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #251 |
282. Oh, snap... |
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piesRsquare (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:15 AM Response to Reply #251 |
287. I'm not interested in "information regarding confirmation bias |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #287 |
293. I...don't think you quite understood. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
148. This is also a nation |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. The creationism and intelligent design cohort are the authoritarian followers. |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #152 |
307. Great post! Nicely stated. I never heard it expressed so clearly and succinctly. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
151. It's insane to think there is no other intelligent life in an infinite universe, |
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piesRsquare (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
155. Snob. |
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Akoto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
156. I pity those who've decided what we know is all there can be. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #156 |
171. Nobody is deciding there's nothing more to be found. |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
159. Well Mr. Steinberg, save me the Carl Sagan shtick... |
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slowry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Schtick? Schmuck. n/t |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #159 |
167. I hate when people simply make up histories of science. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #159 |
173. Sure there are other sapeint beings in the universe, but... |
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Californian Dreamer (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
160. It's not so much a matter of UFOs, ESP and Ghosts.. |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. UFO's Are Real - Simple As That |
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Californian Dreamer (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #163 |
191. OK |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #191 |
219. Thanks |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
162. "Atheists" who believe in ghosts, alien abductions, magic, ESP, or conspiracy theories are amusing. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #162 |
177. "Patronizing Jerks" who misunderstand the definition of atheism are amusing. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. What makes you think I misunderstand the definition of atheism? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #180 |
184. Oh. So you are a patronizing jerk who actually understands the meaning of atheism. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #184 |
188. You laugh at people for their intellectual faults, as do I. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #188 |
216. No, as long as you can feel like you have the intellectual high ground, I am |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #216 |
253. I can call their belief so quite easily, |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #253 |
317. Can you cut and paste where I said that ghosts are real? Cause I really don't |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #177 |
181. Would that also hold true for The Holy Ghost I used to hear mentioned at Mass all the time? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. Yes. You cannot be an atheist and believe the UFO is driven by the Holy Ghost. n/t |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:21 AM Response to Reply #185 |
300. LOL - too funny. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #177 |
200. While atheism does technically refer to lack of belief in GODS, I do find it amusing when |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
166. I heard on Discovery or something that - |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. The same sleep paralysis is also responsible for Medieval belief in succubi and incubi. nt |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Didn't know that! Makes sense though =) n/t |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. It really does. People think, |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #172 |
179. Bingo! n/t |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #179 |
182. But let me say this...... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #182 |
218. I have a power kind of like that too. |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:23 AM Response to Reply #218 |
301. Your skepticism is proof of nothing |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #301 |
308. I'll have to respond later. A demon is communicating with me right now through the barking of the |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
198. UFOs are not even on the same page as ghosts and ESP. This article is crap. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
215. Quarks, Semi-Charmed Quarks--can't "see" those, either. I'm much more worried about the Neo-Cons.... |
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AnnieBW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
220. I believe in UFOs, fairies, ghosts, compassionate conservatives |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
222. It is a world populated by delusional masses... |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #222 |
228. what about the links i provided? |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #222 |
230. Lovely manifesto of Western cultural imperialism. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #230 |
233. "I'm sure you'll want to stamp out all that nonsense as soon as possible". |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #233 |
237. So, you're an advocate of cultural genocide? Nice. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #237 |
276. So, you're an advocate of cultural genocide? Um No. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #276 |
278. Cultural genocide = destroying Ideologies. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #278 |
281. Primitive superstitions cause nothing but harm to Mankind. |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #281 |
286. No, greed, imperialism and militarism cause nothing but harm to humankind. |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:37 AM Response to Reply #281 |
303. Many Native American tribes lived in relative peace for |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #303 |
304. Congradulations for falling for the RACIST myth of the "noble savage." |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #304 |
311. There's quite a bit of written materia... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #311 |
336. Sure there is a lot of written material claiming that. but... |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:22 AM Response to Reply #278 |
298. I have all the right in the World to speak the obvious.. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #298 |
313. And all this time I thought it was greed and lust for power... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #230 |
280. Ranting about "Western cultural imperialism" is typical of relativists lacking... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #280 |
283. Oh bullshit. The post I was replying to was asserting some nonsense about "bringing society to its |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:11 AM Response to Reply #283 |
297. Oh piss off... |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #222 |
239. "It is a world populated by delusional masses..." |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
223. Idiots believe everything on TV is true. "I am the slime from your video" - Frank Zappa |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
241. It is indeed a huge problem |
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GrpCaptMandrake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
268. Never mind the 33% who believe |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
269. Believe it or not Millions of Americans think politcian's claim are real -- that's a problem |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #269 |
275. UFO Wave Over Belgium 1991 |
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philb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
285. Do you have evidence that UFOs don't exist? Are you suggesting |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:58 AM Response to Original message |
288. Very well, how is that a problem? And just to play Devil's Advo in that DU thinks America to be... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
294. UFO's are undeniably real |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #294 |
319. I deny that UFOs are real. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #319 |
337. you deny that anyone has ever seen a flying object that was unidentified? |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:09 AM Response to Reply #337 |
338. Read the whole post. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:08 AM Response to Original message |
296. Yet nothing about the large percentage who supposedly believe the Earth is 6,000 years old. |
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Felix Mala (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
310. And human beings aren't animals, but were created out of mud and there were |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
314. However, I imagine more people believe more in... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #314 |
320. I definitely believe in iPods. iPhones too. I'm pretty certain they exist. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #320 |
321. I'm afraid you missed the point I was hoping to make... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #321 |
323. I think I get your point, but don't wholly agree. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #323 |
332. a Tarot reading is much less indicative of our collective priorities... |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
322. I was abducted by aliens once. |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
325. The real problem is those whose rigid, unthinking, unimagining dogma |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #325 |
326. Seeing possibilities isn't the same as making unsupported claims. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #326 |
327. I think that you should be skeptical....but with an open mind. |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
328. The Freepers are probaby having a field day with these threads n/t |
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Gidney N Cloyd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
330. Ironically, this from a columnist whose seen a lot of pink elephants. nt |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
331. Let's See, Some Astronauts Say They Exist |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #331 |
333. And with all the cameras astronauts carry with them they couldn't snap one single picture of them? |
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arrested_president (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #333 |
334. That Has Nothing To Do With The FACT |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #334 |
335. And one astronaut wears diapers and another searches for Noah's Ark |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #335 |
342. My grandmother wears diapers |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #342 |
348. Here is the astronaut I was referring to who was wearing the diaper |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #331 |
341. A personal opinion isn't worth anything. Get the empirical evidence, please. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
339. be careful or they will use their psionic powers to pop your head or send bigfoot to poop on your |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
340. I want to believe in UFOs and ESP, ghosts notsomuch |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #340 |
344. I bet for every time a married person knew their partner was dead or in danger... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
343. Well given that even more Americans |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
345. thanks, debunkers, for helping the PuKKKes with one of their favorite wedge issues |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #345 |
346. Of course you can believe in fairies if you want. And we have the right to point out |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
347. How do you KNOW that they are not real? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-30-07 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
349. Frankly whether or not you or anyone else believes in what I believe in makes zero impact on my life |
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