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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:40 PM
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Glenn Greenwald: A bizarre, unsolicited email from Gen. Petraeus' spokesman
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 03:45 PM by babylonsister
A bizarre, unsolicited email from Gen. Petraeus' spokesman

(Updated below - Update II - Update III - Update IV - Update V - Update VI)


I received this morning an unsolicited email from Col. Steven A. Boylan, the Public Affairs Officer and personal spokesman for Gen. David G. Petraeus (see UPDATE III below). The subject line of the email -- which I am publishing in full, unedited form here -- is "The growing link between the U.S. military and right-wing media and blogs," which is the title of the post I wrote earlier this week regarding the politicization of the Army in Iraq, as evidenced by its constant coordination with, and leaking to, the likes of Matt Drudge, The Weekly Standard, and the most extremist right-wing blogs -- in the TNR/Beauchamp case and also more generally.

I had a prior e-mail exchange with Col. Boylan several months ago when I requested an interview with Gen. Petraeus after he had granted an exclusive interview to far-right partisan Hugh Hewitt (author of the 2006 prescient tract: Painting the Map Red: The Fight to Create a Permanent Republican Majority). In terms of whether the U.S. Army under Petraeus and Boylan is, in fact, becoming a political actor, I'll let multiple passages from Boylan's email to me this morning speak for itself:

The issues of accuracy, context, and proper characterization is something that perhaps you could do a little research and would assume you are aware of as a trained lawyer.

I do enjoy reading your diatribes as they provide comic relief here in Iraq. The amount of pure fiction is incredible. Since a great deal of this post is just opinion and everyone is entitled to their opinions, I will not address those even though they are shall we say -- based on few if any facts. That does surprise me with your training as a lawyer, but we will leave those jokes to another day. . . .

You are either too lazy to do the research on the topics to gain the facts, or you are providing purposeful misinformation -- much like a propagandist. . . .

Sorry to burst your bubble, but a little actual research on your part would have shown that is actually not here, but that would contradict your conspiracy theory. . . . .

I am curious as to when you think the media relations or operations changed here in Iraq. I in fact do know exactly the day and time that it changed and want to see if you are even in the same ballpark as reality. . . .

For the third matter concerning the Beauchamp investigation and the documents that were leaked -- it is very unfortunate that they were -- but the documents are not secret or classified. So, there is your third major error in fact. Good thing you are not a journalist. . . .

As for working in secret with only certain media is laughable. The wide swatch of media engagements is by far the most diverse it could be. But you might not think it that way since we chose not to do an interview with you. You are not a journalist nor do you have any journalistic ethical standards as we found out from the last time I engaged with you.

As we quickly found out, you published our email conversation without asking, without permission -- just another case in point to illustrate your lack of standards and ethics. You may recall that a 30-minute interview was conducted with the program that you claim to be a contributor. So instead of doing the interview with you, we went with the real talent, Alan Colmes. . . .

I invite you to come see for yourself and go anywhere in Iraq you want, go see what our forces are doing, go see what the other coalition forces are doing, go hang out with the reporters outside the International Zone since that is where they live and work and see for yourself what ground truth is so that you can be better informed. But that would take something you probably don't have.

Steve

Steven A. Boylan

Colonel, US Army

Public Affairs Officer


Everyone can decide for themselves if that sounds more like an apolitical, professional military officer or an overwrought right-wing blogger throwing around all sorts of angry, politically charged invective. Whatever else is true, it is rather odd that this was the sort of rhetoric Col. Boylan chose to invoke in service of his apparent goal of proving that there is nothing politicized about the U.S. military in Iraq.

more...

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/28/boylan/index.html
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:45 PM
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1. I urge one and all to take ten minutes and watch this video clip
It can happen here.

WATCH THIS VIDEO CLIP PLEASE..NAOMI WOLF ON The rise of American totalitarianism.

http://www.alternet.org:80/blogs/video/65748 /

This is clear, concise and vitally important. It requires a high-speed internet connection, and it also takes a few minutes, but I feel it is worth every second.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:34 PM
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10. here are the clift notes on the video:
Even though her message is frightening, Naomi Wolf wants to assure people that there can be a light at the end of the tunnel. The YouTube video to your right is a terrific speech by Wolf (at Kane Hall on the University of Washington campus) about her provocative new book "The End of America" which talks about the parallels between the Bush Administration's tactics and those of fascist dictatorships of the last century.

The same language, images, manipulation that would-be despots have used in the past to break down existing democracies are being employed now. From Italy in the 1920s, Germany in the 1930s, and on and on, Wolf finds that all these despots do that same things. Mussolini created the blueprint, Hitler followed suit, Stalin studied Hitler and these methods just get passed down to the next generation of dictators throughout the world. Wolf has summarized their method is ten points:

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy

2. Create a gulag

3. Develop a thug caste

4. Set up an internal surveillance system

5. Harass citizens' groups

6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release

7. Target key individuals

8. Control the press

9. Dissent equals treason

10. Suspend the rule of law

Wolf argues that all of these methods are underway in the United States right now. We ran a piece by Wolf just a couple weeks ago where she talked about number three, the thug caste, and Blackwater. In this video she provides ample evidence of all the other ten as well.

What can we do?


IMPEACH Try Convict and Imprison the Criminal cabal.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:49 PM
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2. I suggest everyone follow the link and read Glenn's reply!
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 03:50 PM by bushmeat
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:54 PM
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3. Calling Alan Colmes "the real talent" screams Section 8 n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:55 PM
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4. Oh my.....someone is very defensive
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:59 PM
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5. This does *not* read like a communication from a professional military officer
Dr. Strangelove, anyone?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:43 PM
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12. Seriously! That sounds like the work of a 14-year-old who just discovered snark.
That's kinda scary, given who and what he is. :scared:


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 03:59 PM
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6. Holy shit!
Are all public affairs officers that illiterate. That is an atrocious piece of writing, riddled with grammatical errors and poor punctuation.

Not to mention terribly stupid.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:04 PM
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7. My reaction exactly.
Sounds like Boylan is as adept at his job as Michael Brown was as head of FEMA.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:26 PM
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9. No kidding. I just read it over again, and
I can't get over how terribly it's written. Unbelievable.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:08 PM
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18. Like Jimmy-Jeff terribly written?
:shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:52 PM
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21. There's no excuse for a public affairs officer not knowing how
to compose a proper English sentence:

"The issues of accuracy, context, and proper characterization is something that perhaps you could do a little research and would assume you are aware of as a trained lawyer."

Please tell me you see that this is not proper sentence structure.


Let's rewrite this malicious little sentence:

I would assume, that as a trained lawyer, you are aware of the importance of accuracy, context and proper characterization. If not, you might consider doing a little research.

Still nasty and stupid, but at least it's properly constructed.

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 06:10 PM
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22. Did you mean to respond to another post?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:15 PM
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19. Not only the utter childishness of the style ...
... but the content, as well. This is the kind of comeback you'd expect to see posted on a high school message board.

The only thing he left out was, "I'm rubber and you're glue. Whatever you say bounces off me, and sticks to you!" But again, that might be included in a subsequent exchange ...

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:44 PM
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20. Freeptastic.
Bet he's got a handle over at FR.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:20 PM
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8. Can you say Ad Hominen ?
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 04:22 PM by Spinzonner
I knew you could.

Typical right-wing response.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:42 PM
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11. Methinks Colonel Steven "Klink" Boylan is hoist on his own snide, smarmy petard
Can you say, "busted"? Nobody nails the evildoers like Greenwald.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:55 PM
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14. Oh no, there goes Boylan, oh
Go, go, Glennzilla! Boylan should review what happens to army guys that get underfoot in Godzilla movies.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:48 PM
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13. that's a frightening response from the military. frightening.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 04:58 PM
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15. col boylan
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:03 PM
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16. Iraq is a huge fucking mess and Col. Moran
can't handle it. Yawn.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 05:06 PM
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17. Sounds like a 'Talon News' special assignment
Wasn't Jimmy-Jeff just photographed with Cheney at an event?
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 08:48 PM
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23. Time for DUers to "engage' this Jack T. Ripper wannabe!
Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 08:53 PM by johnfunk
Boylan to Greenwald:
Whether I agree with what the email says or not is not an issue I wish to discuss with you, as I decided after our last exchange that I would not take the time or efforts to engage with you.
This staff press puke needs to engage some taxpaying citizens... and if you go back to Glenn Greenwald's Salon piece detailing the mess and search for "@iraq.centcom.mil", you may locate an e-mail address of interest.
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