SoCalDem
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Wed Oct-31-07 11:49 AM
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Hillary's "papers" should be a NON-issue.. George re-wrote THAT book |
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Edited on Wed Oct-31-07 11:50 AM by SoCalDem
We have YET to see HIS papers as governor
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Reagan's official papers (he LEFT office in 1989)
or Poppy's official papers (he left office in 1993)
so Hillary's FIRST LADY papers (not even an elected official) are a NON-ISSUE.. totally..
That said, I DO think that before ANYONE runs for president, IF they have been a CEO or an elected official , we ARE entitled to a full disclosure of EVERYTHING..
and I also think we NEED to see the papers of the departing administration (ALL OF THEM) as they leave office.. They work FOR US..and what they have done in our name deserves to be known ASAP, so we can quit making the same mistakes over and over and then claim "we didn't know"..
This business of keeping everything so secretive, until they are doddering old helpless people, is NUTS!! If you make presidential decisions, then you should have to face the results of those decisions..BEFORE you go out and make a bundle on a touchy-feely autobiography
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SteppingRazor
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Wed Oct-31-07 11:54 AM
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1. On the contrary, I think the next president should immediately recind Bush's executive order... |
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that skirted the Presidential Records Act and allow full access to any and all relevant material from previous administrations.
That executive order was issued pre-9/11, and it was one of the first signs of the jackassery to come. Given that, Hillary's position on open access is relevant.
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SoCalDem
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Wed Oct-31-07 11:56 AM
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2. Not contrary to my point at all.. I want that order rescinded too |
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and go a step further.. I don't want ANY "waiting period" after an administration.. I want it to be automatic.. You are done- your papers get released..on Day ONE of the new admin.
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Wed Oct-31-07 11:58 AM
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4. Well, I'd be willing to at least let them be vetted for legitimate nat'l security reasons... |
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but after that, yeah, release everything.
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SoCalDem
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:03 PM
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5. Yes. I started to exempt "national secrets", but after George, that |
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would be almost EVERYTHING.. They must have a brazillion "Top Secret" stamps.:)
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:06 PM
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6. Yeah, I mean, like, actual national security not "gee, this will make me look bad" national security |
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Wed Oct-31-07 11:58 AM
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3. Howard Dean was also raked over the coals. And John Kerry |
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:10 PM
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7. So now Bush is the minimum standard to hold people to? |
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I'm not sure I like that idea.
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SoCalDem
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:15 PM
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10. The world moves very quickly now,.we NEED access to what was done in our name |
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and we need it to be current..not decades old when we "find out"..
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:12 PM
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8. I totally tuned that part out. |
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Maybe Russert wants to write a book on her or something. He's obessed with her.
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:13 PM
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9. SoCalDem: Two wrongs make a right. |
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Or: If Bush does it, it must be okay.
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:21 PM
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11. She is touting her experience in government as a reason she should be elected |
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I think that her papers SHOULD be released.
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SoCalDem
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Wed Oct-31-07 12:53 PM
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12. First Ladies "experiences" are pretty well documented |
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The health care fiasco surey was very public, and every trip she took, and every meeting she had was all over the news and in the papers.
It's not like she had secret meetings at Bohemian Grove..:)
and technically she did not have power to DO much of anything:)
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