Did Cheney Bypass Official Chain Of Command & Spring Loose Nukes From Their Bunkers?

[kpete]

The Air Force Cover-Up of That Miinot-Barksdale Nuke Missile Flight
Wed, 10/31/2007 - 18:45 — dlindorff
“It makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.”
---Pentagon official

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There is speculation that the order may have come via an alternate chain of command.

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Could the nation’s war-mongering VP have used his neo-con contacts in the Defense Department or some of the Armageddon-believers in the Air Force to bypass the official chain of command and spring those nukes from their bunker?

Was there a plan to use one or more of those nukes—W80-1 warheads that can be calibrated to detonate with an explosive power ranging anywhere from 150 kilotons down to just 5 kilotons—against Iran? The Advanced Cruise Missile, a stealth weapon almost impossible to spot on radar, is designed to be launched from a remote location by a B-52, and then to fly close to the ground to its target, using terrain maps and GPS guidance. It is also designed to penetrate hardened sites, such as Iran’s nuclear processing and research facilities.

Or was there a plan for a so-called “false-flag incident, “where a small nuke—made to resemble a primitive weapon of the type a fledgling nuclear power might construct—might be detonated at a US target abroad, or even within the US?

These are terrible and terrifying questions to have to ask, but when you have six nuclear weapons go missing, when the military investigation into the incident is so clearly a whitewash or cover-up, and when you have a vice president who is openly pressing for an illegal war of aggression against a nation that poses no threat to the US, and who, in fact, appears to be conducting his own treacherous foreign policy behind the back of the president and the State Department, they are questions that must be asked, and that demand answers.


http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/?q=node/57

[Bonobo]

1. As Big Dog might very well say... "HOW DARE YOU!?"

(...ask such a frightening and pertinent question)

[smoogatz]

2. The thought has certainly crossed my mind.

Whenever the Bush/Cheney dictatorship does something terrifying, bizarre, fascistic and totally fucked up, one tends to think of Cheney first. He's clearly a complete sociopath, capable of pretty much anything.

[12string]

35. Bush/Cheney Dictatorship

 Cheney's own words from a 2002 speech to the
V.F.W."Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a
murderous dictator are as great a threat as can be
imagined."

[MLFerrell]

3. Cock Cheney's nuclear 9-11 will be MIHOP.

[dflprincess]

36. And we'll all be told were consipracy nuts if we dare suggest such a thing

because no American official would ever want to start a nuclear war. :sarcasm:

[seemslikeadream]

4. Could the nation’s war-mongering VP have used his neo-con contacts

in the Defense Department or some of the Armageddon-believers in the Air Force to bypass the official chain of command and spring those nukes from their bunker?


YES

[FREEWILL56]

26. Any and all involved with this needs gone after

from the lowest in the service all of the way up to Cheney and even Bush too because the buck stops there being he's the commander in chief and the self proclaimed decider of all.
This may be more ammo for DK in the impeachment of Cheney.

[mod mom]

5. Has the number, 5 or 6, ever been clarified? Anyone know?

[Blashyrkh]

16. They'll never tell you.

I've heard of a second attempt to steal them, and the question of 5 or 6 won't be asked or answered because the answer is 5.

[beberocks]

6. I think they were being shipped to Israel.

It seems to be their plan--get Israel to attack Iran and then when Iran responds, the U.S. attacks Iran because "we have to defend Israel." They must think that WWIII is going to be great or that they'll be greeted by Jesus in heaven. Bunch of evil, delusional warmongers.

[catmandu57]

7. Certainly

this has the dicK's fingerprints all over it. I only hope he was sloppy enough that the trail will eventually lead back to him.

[reprehensor]

8. "Missing Nukes: Treason of the Highest Order"

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7158

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

33. Thank you!!! I could not find that link the other day. It's a goodie!! nt

[lyonn]

37. All kinds of interesting facts and possibilities discussed

At the end was something that might explain why so many people involved were in the meteorology area, wind directions, etc..:


Thomas Donnelly et al., Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces, and Resources For A New Century (The Project for the New American Century: September 2000), p.v.

<38> It is here that two things should be noted in regards to physics and magnetospheric physics; Firstly, nuclear explosions from the air are different than ground-based nuclear explosions in many ways (including contamination levels), but the weather and wind direction are major unknowns or variables; Secondly, as a fundamental natural law energy never disappears, it only changes or is transferred. The energy from nuclear explosions can theoretically be transferred into the Earth’ magnetic radiation fields, called the Van Allen Belt or the Van Allen Belts, and used to energize and excite various particles, sub-atomic particles, and ions. Tentatively, if manipulated this can have harmful results on surface areas, including burning electronic and communication devices, and military applications such as disrupting satellites in space. If this were possible Russian, Chinese, Iranian, or Indian military defences, communications, and missile facilities could be effortlessly neutralized.

These radiation belts also travel in loops and notionally an energized pulse set off from an area in the U.S. could circumnavigate into an area halfway around the globe.

In fact the U.S. military has been experimenting with manipulating the radiation belts since the end of the Second World War. The U.S. Navy’s Project Argus, taking place from August to September 1958, is an example. A total of five nuclear weapons were used; three atom bombs (weapons using nuclear fission) were detonated above the Atlantic Ocean and two thermonuclear or hydrogen bombs (weapons using nuclear fusion) in the Pacific Ocean in an effort to manipulate the Van Allen Belts.

Global Research Articles by Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya

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[ptvet]

9. Bypassed or or just

Ordered it....
What made the hair on the neck of the Pentagon official stand up is not just the fact that this happened, but the fact that an order was given and those orders were followed.
Rick Meyers had some good threads on this a while back, most of them became flame fests and the original message was lost in the fray...
Many chimed in with opinions, only a few vets, yes like me, who worked around these weapons spoke up about how God Damned bad of a deal this was....
One more time from a former Security Policeman's point of view, there is NO way those weapons were removed from the WSA, convoyed out to the flight line, loaded on to the B-52 that then took off with those weapons mounted under the wings. By Mistake.
The article referenced above went in to more detail than others have, like the two man teams, the alarms on said weapons, doors and other safeguards. The number of people it takes to do any of this would also make this a followed order.

Speaking from experience, Security Police always joked about what they would do if the alert bombers ever left the ground. Those jokes weren't too funny either because if and when they did fly, that meant we were intending to use them, not decommission them, not move them, use them.
Maybe some other AF humans with SAC or other experience will comment....since the AF has now officially confirmed that this did happen.
Oh yea, the AF also confirmed the existence of those 6 weapons...thats never happened either.

[Didereaux]

10. Here's the story & the pic...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/12461951@N03/

[elehhhhna]

11. What REALLY went down:

They were moved. Known fact. Why were they moved? They were going to be delivered somewhere--which is the most obvious answer. Question: delivered to Israel or whomever so they could drop 'em on our shared enemies, or just sold by Uncle Dick to Pakistan or someone? Dang. Where's Plame and Brewsterr=Jennings when you really need them?

[FREEWILL56]

27. You may be onto something here

as Israel did just go after some sites in Syria, was it not?

[Richard Steele]

12. Well, SOMEONE certainly sprang them. The story that it was just an accident is preposterous.nm

[seemslikeadream]

13. preposterous

[lyonn]

28. Yup, 5 Or 6 Nukes were flown across country and no one knows

anything about it?? According to many on this site that have dealt personally with this movement of nukes, there is no justifiable reason for this blank wall when it comes to what happen. Terrorist don't scare, this type stuff does tho. Our government is out of control. Kinda like every man for himself mentality. No real leaders accountable to anyone.

[Me.]

14. Sounds Like A Modern Day Version

of Operation Northwoods

[libodem]

15. This line of inquiry is right on the mark.

I put nothing past Darth Cheney, Prince of Darkness. He is the most wicked, evil, satanic, monster, in the universe. I try everyday not to hate him more and wish him dead, so I keep praying for his long life, full of joy and more money. Cha-ching.

[Kurovski]

17. Kick. (nt)

[Usrename]

18. What in the hell is a "war czar" anyhow?

I've wondered from the beginning if this was a scheme to set up a command/control structure outside the conventional chain.

Ever since Sy Hersh came out about the "Messianic Bush" and the threatened mutiny by members of the joint chiefs if the White House did not start to "walk back" their plans for a nuclear first-strike against Iran, I've wondered how they could find a work around that obstacle.

Is it war czar, or war tsar?

[MagickMuffin]

19. Perhaps Oil Slick Dick is getting his ducks in a row,

for when the Democrats take back control of our country. Then BOOM, see there the Democrats were able to keep us safe.

[Imagevision]

20. Those fired in the incident most likely were whistle blowers as the story vaporizes

[peace13]

25. There have been several deaths associated with this as well.

Too, late for those folks who were possibly trying to save us all. Peace, Kim

[Ian_rd]

32. I tend to believe instead that Gates was sending a message.

The message being: Don't put nukes into play unless they come down the correct chain of command with the proper checks and controls. It seems to me that Cheney went around Gates and Gates responded. Hell, we don't know if Cheney was involved. But speculation is fair game if they want to insult our intelligence with this sorry, our bad bullshit explanation.

[FraDon]

21. Spot on: "an alternate chain of command"

This is of course, consistent with the coup. In fact it's a central goal of all coups.

What was that part of the Oath again? "I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic..."

Tragically, the current junta reads that and see us.

[tridim]

22. Has it been verified that Blackwater was contracted for nuclear security at the bunker?

Because that would be the easiest way to get that job done. Take over security from the military (because they're busy in Iraq) and then bypass it completely to steal nukes for yourself and/or your bosses. As nuts as it sounds, that's probably the simplest explanation.

[bbgrunt]

23. k & r

[Myrina]

24. Is your headline a question?

Not a matter of "if", but ... when and how often.

:spank:

[2 Much Tribulation]

29. Yes, questions must be asked, but this also fans fears of nukes, furthering war with Iran. hmmm nt

[emmadoggy]

30. I've asked this question more than once...

and still haven't gotten an answer. Where did these nukes go after this "mistake" was discovered. I have yet to hear what was done with them after they arrived.

Does anyone know??

[Land Shark]

31. Nukes looser here than in Iran? Consider also recent nuke sub allegations in San Diego too. nt

[Karenina]

34. I do believe so.