NC_Nurse
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:36 PM
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So do any of these "pro-family" groups ever actually help any families? |
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I keep hearing about the AFA (American Family Association) and the FRC (Family Research Council) and Focus on Family and all these other "Christian" pro-family groups criticizing and condemning all sorts of things...usually equal rights for gays sexual freedom/expression family planning including but not limited to abortion and on and on...
But do they EVER actually do anything to help FAMILIES???? I mean, aside from protecting all of those poor traditional nuclear families who only want to be exposed to fundie WAP values from the vast plethora of sinfulness in the world.... :eyes:
Do they ever support quality childcare? Collect money for the poor or provide respite care for those taking care of disabled kids or elderly parents? Where's the PRO-family part of it???
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:38 PM
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:40 PM
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2. No. They Only Want to Force People to Have Families Who Don't Want Them |
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:43 PM
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3. Yeah, and then not help them take care of them. |
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:45 PM
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Or that of their own kind?
Eh, not that I've ever been aware of.
But, hey, that's just me.
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:54 PM
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6. I wonder if they even help their own, esp. if |
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they don't tow the party line. Can you imagine how they treat their own kids who are gay, or have sex before marriage? The horror, the horror....:eyes:
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:57 PM
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10. Imagine? I've seen some of it. I've also seen how they treat "their" women. |
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Their idea of family values has little to do with family and even less to do with values.
I know you know that, but I just had to write it.
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:58 PM
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12. I know, and I just had to post this thread. |
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:D
Sometimes you just have to put it out there that some people are stinkin' hypocrites whose shit smells for miles.
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:06 PM
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21. Understood completely. |
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:48 PM
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They blow a lot of hot air, and do their best to legislate "morality" but they don't give one red cent, or one ounce of compassion to those who need it the most.
They spread hate, and disguise it as "family values."
Hypocrisy at its nastiest.
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:55 PM
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8. Thank you. That's what I knew but wanted confirmed. |
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:00 PM
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14. Exactly. I'm not happy to have to say it... |
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...but yeah.
Most of their message is hate-speak against gays, women, and people who have premarital sex.
That "helping families" stuff is a smokescreen.
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:54 PM
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7. Pat Robertson has a group in our area who were always soliciting money for his charities. |
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Well a lady who lived down the road from us, lost her job and couldn't find another right away. She needed help right away. Her friends and neighbors applied to Robertson's group, and guess what they wouldn't give her any help. First she didn't qualify...what ever the hell that meant. She was in need she needed food and fuel costs and rent. Then and I swear to God, the second thing was she did not belong to their religious contingency.
The neighbors went to the Adventist organization Church. The preacher wrote out a check for the emergency and signed it GOD HELPS> Which gave her time to get on her feet. I could not believe that an organization that professed to help people wouldn't give this woman a penny. I tell you one thing his donations dried up in our area.
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:56 PM
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You'd think they'd at least pretend to care. Sheesh.
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:57 PM
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11. from what i can see-no. Look at their links pages and see what they go to |
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other groups just like theirs with the only agenda of getting people to vote republican and to stop looking at the porn.
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:00 PM
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15. You are better than me, actually making an attempt to |
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check it out. :P
I just am sick of hearing them constantly harping about stuff when I just KNOW they don't lift a finger to actually help anyone. Pro-family my ass!
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:02 PM
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17. they're for helping families---their own. |
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:04 PM
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19. How is what they are doing helping them? |
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:06 PM
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20. they raise money for themselves, you don't think the people that staff that place |
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do it for free do ya? I'd love to take a look at their books.
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:07 PM
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I guess they probably have big mansions like all the televangelists. Yuch.
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:08 PM
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23. plus i always think of those places as front group you know? Just a way to funnel |
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:13 PM
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25. Yeah. It just pisses me off that they use |
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an issue that's so soft and fuzzy...where there are so many legit needs and they are just adding to the confusion, not helping at all. :(
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Mon Nov-05-07 09:59 PM
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13. They aren't pro family in the sense that they want to help people who have families |
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They are pro family in that they support the *institution* of the family as they have rigidly defined it, and want to "defend" that definition against anything that encroaches on their supposed turf. It's got nothing to do with people, it's just the concept that they want to defend.
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:01 PM
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16. Couldn't put it any better |
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:03 PM
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18. And a bullshit concept at that. |
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How can people have any respect for that? There are no good works to back them up. They are essentially using the "institution" of family as a political ploy and the "defense" of it is a crock!
I am choking on the bullshit that our country has become so FULL OF! :crazy:
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:10 PM
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24. Sadly Tony Perkins group.......... |
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called upon all Christians to pray against the possibility of an SCHIP veto override. Pitiful. Just pitiful.
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Mon Nov-05-07 10:15 PM
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26. Really? That rat bastard! |
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Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 10:18 PM by NC_Nurse
How disgusting.
So I guess we must make sure every child is BORN, but after that - no healthcare for you! :wtf:
On edit: It seems I can never underestimate the slimy evil of these people. To PRAY against a healthcare program for poor kids. OMG!
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Tue Nov-06-07 09:27 AM
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28. but it's socialism, didn't you know? |
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Another boogey man for many Americans.
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Tue Nov-06-07 06:57 PM
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29. You mean, GODLESS socialism? |
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Mon Nov-05-07 11:00 PM
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27. Those groups help born people? Ha! Ha! Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! nt |
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