HE F**KING DID IT!!!

[lame54]

Kucinich just threw down on cheney
IMPEACH - http://youtube.com/watch?v=qGwvSwOP7Ow

[bdamomma]

1. Yessss!!!

finally someone who has the balls and is on our side!!!

[redqueen]

2. Who among us thought it would be anyone BUT Kucinich?

[Stinky The Clown]

3. It wasn't a throw down until it gets more than one person talking about it.

I don't think this will have any legs.

I am VERY much in favor of impeachment and I applaud DK for this ....... but it will go nowhere.

[lame54]

5. thanks for your enthusiasm

[Stinky The Clown]

9. Sorry to have disturbed you

I'm not a blind faither.

I love that he did it.

I loudly applaud that he did it.

I favor impeachment for many reasons (see my sig line)

I still do not think this will go anywhere.

[lame54]

17. then get on the phone and call

quit whining about it
if you can't contribute don't get in the way of those of who are
we finally cracked the door and should be using our collective weight to break it down
pessimism is not welcome at the moment

[Stinky The Clown]

19. May I just say

Back the fuck off, Hoss.

Who the hell are YOU?

Where's the whining?

That adrenaline is a bitch, isn't it?

[old guy]

8. Unfortunately I think you are correct.

I have called so many times on so many issues and never have they made any progress in stopping * from doing what he wants. The Dem leadership keeps caving to * and I can't seem to figure out why.Good for DK, but I fear it will be for naught. Just saying.

[Marrah_G]

4. Unfortunately no one will know

Hardly anyone watches c-span and MSM will probably not cover it at all.

[havocmom]

7. You can bet cheney is chuckling and wondering if DK likes being the one man

with courage then finding he is pissing, silently, in the wind.

Corporate media IS the problem

[lame54]

6. Call Your Reps - #'s here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2217486

[rodeodance]

10. thanks

[Stinky The Clown]

11. My reps long ago put me on **IGNORE**

And they're good Dems.

I'm a pain in their ass.

[lame54]

12. I'm proud of you

keep prodding

[LeftCoast]

13. I see Rep. Kucinich is handling this as effectively as everything else he does

22 whole co-sponosors out of 233 Democrats in Congress!

Wowzers!

[warren pease]

20. Know how many co-signers the Clinton articles of impeachment had?

That would be ZERO -- not a single goddamn one of those prissy little GOP moralist shits signed on to that witch hunt.

This time around, we have a renegade administration that has committed literally dozens of impeachable offenses and is actively scheming to commit more -- mostly in the form of further removal of Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms at home and continued pursuit of a foreign policy of endless war, which hasn't been authorized by Congress (although I assume these Vichy sheep would gladly go along with it if asked), and includes the possibility of nuking Iran and embracing torture as an effective means of extracting information.

And you would do nothing because it might tarnish the image of the democratic congress, a body which enjoys the approval of around 11 to 15 percent of the public -- even lower than Bushie's own approval rating?

Sometimes being a legislator isn't about passing laws; it's about preserving what's left of the Constitution, restoring protections that have already been stolen, ending disastrous and genocidal policies, preventing the next war of aggression and imperialism and begging the pardon of the world community for allowing things to get this far out of hand.

Impeaching Cheney is a step toward accomplishing all those objectives and the American people are way ahead of Congress on this one, as they seem to be on just about every other issue when the MAJORITY PARTY has failed to constrain Bushie in any way whatsoever.

Think about all that before you bash Kucinich. If his courage and the strength of his convictions could be distributed evenly around House democrats, we might finally have a body that actually represents its constituents. As it is, we have Steney Hoyer and Nancy Pelosi telling us that the House has more important business and can't be distracted. As if there were anything more important than impeaching, trying, convicting and removing Cheney from office, then, in federal court, indicting, trying, convicting and sentencing Cheney and the rest of these vermin to life terms at Abu Ghraib.

We don't have the votes? Tough shit. Do the right thing anyway. Maybe when mass media is forced to cover impeachment hearings and the sheer magnitude of BushCo's crimes committed against the American people and the rest of the planet are revealed to the public, voting for impeachment might just be the only way to preserve House and Senate seats in the next elections.

Remember: Bushie isn't the most unpopular president ever because he's been subjected to media scrutiny; Congress' ratings aren't in the tank because they've been raked over the media coals for not impeaching or ending the Iraq occupation. Huge numbers of people have arrived at those conclusions in spite of, not because of, mass media. Imagine what might happen when the spin ends and testimony takes its place. Might be tough to restrain all the peasants with torches and pitchforks from demolishing the white house one fine morning.


wp

[crickets]

21. *APPLAUSE*

Well said. Very well said.

:dem:

[Canuckistanian]

23. Bravo! Good speech.

I agree with every one of your points.

You should post this as an OP. Really.

[xiamiam]

25. i think im in love..."we dont have the votes?tough shit. Do the right thing anyway."..Bravo..nt

[druidity33]

26. thank you! thank you again!

That was an excellent rant, parts of which i would love to use to help tear down Rep Olver's aide that i talked to this morning. I came prepared with H2Oman's Impeach 3 parter, highlighted bits and all. But the whole, "there's not enough votes for it" excuse is a hard one to overcome, especially backed by the old standby, "we don't have the time, and there are more important pieces of legislation to work on..." bit.

Hadn't realized there were no co-sponsors to the Clinton debacle...

[TahitiNut]

27. Well said!

:applause:

[earth mom]

30. Excellent Post!

:applause:

[Duncan]

32. Right on. nt

[Pierre.Suave]

33. Bravo man, fucking BRAVO!

I am right there with you 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000%

Is there a way to find out who signed onto it and who did not?

[warren pease]

37. Individual vote tallies here...

This is a pretty good summation of the day's activities. Note the embedded links for, first, the roll call on the motion to table the resolution and, second, the roll call to send it to the judiciary committee. Note that an identical resolution by Kucinich has been languishing on Conyers' desk since April. Also note that, in another DU thread, it's claimed that Pelosi is threatening Conyers with removal from his position as chair of the judiciary committee if he fails to bury it again.

Fine leadership there, Mme. Speaker. How about just slipping into quiet retirement so that an actual member of the opposition party can step into your chair.

wp

[emmadoggy]

35. !

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

:yourock:

Amen.

[OzarkDem]

24. He picked up a lot of Dem support in the vote

to table. There were also quite a few GOP votes early on, too, before the GOP'ers realized they were going to look bad and threw it the other way.

[bicentennial_baby]

28. I'm sad to see you say this...

You...He's the only one that will stand for *your* rights, for the GLBT community...very, very sad. x(

[Name removed]

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[RiverStone]

14. Gool ol dependable DK!!!!

Now there is a Dem that walks, talks, and acts like a Dem! :applause:

K&R!

[KaryninMiami]

15. send him money -- call your congress persons- call Hoyer as well

Go Dennis!

Phone - [phone] (Hoyer's DC office).

[Uncle Joe]

16. I believe Kucinich's success will depend in part on our support of his efforts,

so I'm kicking and recommending.

Thanks for the thread, lame54.

[Bitwit1234]

18. Heard nothing on the news yet.

[n2doc]

22. Big Balls

Go Dennis!

[LWolf]

29. I never doubted he would.

I'm sorry I had to be at work today and didn't get to see it.

[Betsy Ross]

34. What DID he do please. n/t

[Pierre.Suave]

36. I just called my Rep, Keith Ellison D-MN...

And was told that he was a co-sponsor of the bill to impeach Cheney.

he is a great rep.