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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:01 AM
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Sometimes I just love, LOVE the way Joe Biden
talks.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/04/bush.iran/index.html
The Democratic presidential candidates were incredulous that Bush did not know about the assessment's new finding.

Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, called that explanation "unbelievable."

"Are you telling me a president that's briefed every single morning, who's fixated on Iran, is not told back in August that the tentative conclusion of 16 intelligence agencies in the U.S. government said they had abandoned their effort for a nuclear weapon in '03?" Biden asked in a conference call with reporters.

"I refuse to believe that," he added. "If that's true, he has the most incompetent staff in modern American history, and he's one of the most incompetent presidents in modern American history."

That is powerful and this is the way I want to hear the candidates talk.

Well said Senator Biden. It's so true.



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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:36 AM
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1. don't forget joe said if the bush bombs iran it's grounds for impeachment.
i only wish he'd say there are grounds for impeachment NOW.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:47 PM
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15. For the umpteenth time in the last 7 years, they are once again waiting
till the horse is out of the barn.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:31 PM
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16. yes, i know. n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:18 AM
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2. Agree, and recommended. Biden is one of the most sure-footed
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 07:53 AM by Old Crusoe
foreign policy figures there is.

I'm not seeing any of the Repblican contenders matching him on debate points or ferocity.

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:07 AM
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8. I just had a visual of Joe and the huckaby in a one on one debate
Joe's tearing him a new asshole too
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:10 AM
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9. Hi, madokie. Yes. I'd pay to watch that. I think Joe would reduce Huckabee
to a whimpering, fetal-curled infant in no time flat.

Huckabee's going to run on the No-Evolution, fundamentalist template. Joe Biden's world is older than 6,000 years.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:11 AM
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10. A Biden -Rudy debate would be fun too.
Or one with Mitty. For that matter I can see him getting the best of any of the current crop of Rupugs.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:33 AM
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11. Oh my.. that's not even a fair matchup, LOL !! nT
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:34 AM
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3. now i have no dog in the primary fight -- but
i have really come to love biden in this primary process.

i just have a lot more respect for him -- and he seems much more genuine to me.

i hated him for his bankruptcy vote -- but you know i'm not sure he would do it again. maybe.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:46 AM
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4. Me too, cboy.
:thumbsup:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:47 AM
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5. He DOES cut to the chase, doesn't he.
Why has he been so marginalized as a candidate?. . .Oh, nevermind.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:58 AM
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6. I like Biden too and would not have too much of a problem voting for him.
Oh, I know that a lot of folks here don't like him (MBNA Senator and all that), but I have a feeling that come next November, if he headed the Ticket, I wouldn't be holding my nose while voting for him quite as hard as I would for others currently running.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 08:03 AM
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7. Yes Joe has a way with words
he needs to be in a position where he can use the bully pulpit to the advantage for all of us, Secretary of State would be a good fit for him if not the Presidency
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:20 AM
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12. he sounded great on the NPR debate -- seemed like the adult on the panel
don't like that he was in on the bankruptcy bill -- but in terms of someone who will hit the ground running in 2009 -- he has that "image" down.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:28 AM
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13. "Adult" might be pushing it, but he did sound sharper than the rest, yes.
He's rehabbed himself a great deal in my eyes (I couldn't stand him just a few months ago) and I'm pulling for him to at least stay in the eyes of the public as a national figure, even though I don't see him gaining momentum and actually winning a primary.

It'd be fine with me if he did though. And I'd be proud to vote for him as President if the unlikely occurred.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:05 PM
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14. Heard him talk about immigrants...
and English.

(paraphrased)
"Why all the fear... with other groups of immigrants in our history, people said the same thing about English as a national language. Within a couple of generations, everybody speaks English anyhow. Why all the fear?"

Joe... it's because Repubs thrive on fear.
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