Could They Have Attacked Iran With The Full Knowledge Their Flawed Reason Would Be Exposed?

[ThomWV]

If we presume the Bush/Cheney team knew beforehand that Sadam was not heavily armed and certainly had no 'weapons of mass destruction' then certainly they knew their flawed excuse would be found out over time, which it has. There was no down side to having been caught in their first lie, we have seen that. So do you think that having got away with it in the first instance they felt that they would not be held to account by lieing about the known level of armament of a country they wished to call an enemy?

In other words did letting them get away it it the first time embolden them to do it again? You have to ask because Bush believes that we accept his excuse from yesterday. As far as he is concerned Iran is still a great danger to us and he believes that because he has told is so that we will go along with whatever he does. We, and the release of the NIE, have done absolutely nothing to stop or even delay his plan to attack Iran. No nation on earth is safe as long as he remains in power.

[Bonhomme Richard]

1. Why not? Their flawed reason was exposed.............

regarding Iraq and there were zero consequences.
What have they got to lose?

[Mike03]

2. Absolutely right.

These people don't care if they are "discovered." I seriously doubt this report will stop them. They believe--perhaps correctly--that the American people are so damned dumb that we will debate the veracity of their reasoning to bomb Iran for five or six years, long after they are out of office.

The saddest thing to me is not that they predict that most Americans are stupid, but that they are probably right. I can't understand how we could get fooled again, after all of this horrid nightmare we've been through.

[BeHereNow]

6. Blame the MIC owned media conglomerate for the stupidity of Americans.

That is how it happened the first time.
Hopefully, a few more people will see through the
propaganda this time, but I am not holding my breath.
I'm sure you aren't either.

BHN

[Mike03]

8. Maybe there has been some awakening for a percentage of people

We can hope.

It's just that I still hear callers into talk shows claim that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, and that Iraq was behind 9/11.

And worse, I hear people say that Iran is "different." Even it's just the same old same old.

And worst of all, I hear people who should know better, like talk show hosts like John Rothmann, a very bright talk show host at KGO San Francisco, who keeps beating the drums for war, while all the while claiming he is not.

[whosinpower]

3. What Bush says and what he means

Are two different things. He says he will continue to threaten Iran because Iran is a threat to everyone. This is not really why he is threatening Iran. He threatens Iran because instability of an oil producing nation causes prices to rise - and that is what this game is all about.

Has absolutely nothing to do with your safety or security. JMHO.

[NewJeffCT]

4. They were planning on planting WMD in Iraq

But, it was supposedly interrupted by accidental friendly fire. Judy Miller was on her way to the "big discovery" when it happened.

There were some foreign news services that reported on it, but it never made it over here, of course.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Something weird happened, they were hell bent on attacking Iran.

[Selatius]

7. If you enable a would-be dictator to abuse the law, he will abuse again and again and again.

By doing nothing, you may potentially set a devastating precedent for the future of America.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

9. Absolutely agree. We are abetting by doing nothing. n/t

[Selatius]

11. We're "appeasing." And yes, I deliberately chose that historically loaded term.

This isn't how we should be defending the Constitution.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

10. This time just feels different to me.

On the one hand the bushies normally would plow ahead with their plans and damn the evidence to the contrary or the occasional and faint media questioning. But they seem genuinely disturbed by the NIE getting out, only it' s not the NIE itself that is disturbing them, it's that some (so far unnamed-- CIA? Poppy? ) force is pushing back.

[madokie]

15. it wasn't only the message but the messinger who worries them now

these boys are in war criminal activies up to their necks and they so need a reason to shut down our democracy to survive, war gives them that. A war with Iran would be nothing like a war with Afghanistan or Iraq, many countries feels the us is in the wrong concerning Iran and there is several I think that would come to their aid. big war shut the government down, martial law and void the elections. bushco* cabal are in deep doo doo with the internation criminal court

[countryjake]

12. As long as the MSM is their WMD...Weapon of Mass Deception...

this country will continue to get away with anything and everything, at their whim. Look at the masses of people who protested against going into Iraq, here and all over the world...who in this country actually thought an invasion might be a good move for us to make at that time, besides our government?

They are all complicit in spewing the propaganda necessary to accomplish whatever they like, in "the interest of America", and it's not as if anyone "let them get away with it"...imperialism IS the American interest and we, the people, are merely along for the ride. And those of us who demonstrate that we are NOT willing participants will be dealt with, accordingly.

I think that this NIE will now merely be used to "prove" that Iran really did have "axis of evil" intentions...they "thought" they might need more in their defense department to defend against superpower aggression, so they will be found "guilty", same as Saddam was. Syria or Lebanon will most likely be accused of "hiding" whatever that intelligence was onto, and we'll take out all those pesky "regimes" in one fell swoop. The USA is drooling, we've never been this close to obtaining our true objective of controlling that region. And no nation on earth has ever been "safe" from our power.

[madokie]

13. I'm saying this on the premise that they truly are war criminals I say yes

an attack on Iran would be all they need to declare martial law and void our elections, for the war reasons you know.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

14. I always keep in mind that, these assholes are chiseled at playing mind games.

I'd like to engage in my initial *woohoo* someone's leaking a blockade.

But, I know for a fact that this cabal are damned determined to engage PNAC for the long term.

Hence, I must wonder whether they are simply 'backing off', allowing the NIE out to please their so-called "base", in order to pass the power wand to the right taker. I have no doubt they are rubber-neckin' every poll on BOTH the D and R presidential candidates and all ready setting up plans on how to engage.

[gatorboy]

16. Absolutely and they'd use the same excuse they have with Iraq.

That we'd have to stay until the job's done, regardless and anyone that doesn't agree with them is not supporting the troops.

[trashcanistanista]

17. I have to agree.

There is no evidence that we will not go into Iran. They are spinning the NIE by saying their sanctions worked but Iran is sill dangerously enriching uranium. The NIE means nothing to them.