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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 10:54 PM
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IOWA POLL SHOCKER:
Clinton has a double digit lead over nearest rival..by Rebecca Sinderbrand CNN

A stunning new Iowa poll seems to show New York senator with an apparent double digit lead over her opponents, with voting just a week away. Hillary 34 to Obama 19 and Edwards 20.


www.huffingtonpost.com


So Edwards is one point ahead of Obama, a statistical tie. I saw all the boast and brags about Obama leading, haven't heard a word since Hillary shot heads above him.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 10:56 PM
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1. Good for her!
America needs more of the same.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:32 PM
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11. ..
:rofl:

:thumbsup:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 10:59 PM
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2. k
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 10:59 PM
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3. Well, there's YOUR X-mas present - enjoy! nt
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:03 PM
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4. ..
:boring:
rocknation
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:07 PM
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5. Sample size? Polling company? Methodology?
None of these things are in the OP or the article.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 12:08 AM
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20. I got it
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 12:10 AM by Andy823
It was the "Mark Penn" polling company!

Samples size was "everyone" at Clinton HQ!

The used phone calls and called each other!


:rofl:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:12 PM
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6. link to cnn article:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:15 PM
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7. woohoo!
It will change again in 20 minutes.

What a waste of time and energy.
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:26 PM
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8. Is that an average of all of the polls?
There are others besides American Research Group, you know...

just saying'...
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:30 PM
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9. Too Bad - I Will Never Vote For A Bush War Enabler!
eom
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:31 PM
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10. Ha.
I spent last week in Iowa. That's not even CLOSE to the polling they have there.
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Work4Peace Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:33 PM
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12. The corporate media is lying about the polls
They lie about everything- they are proven liars- they have enabled Bush to kill over one million people in Iraq and have been supporting his lies about Iran.

Do you think they are going to tell the truth about these polls?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:47 PM
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16. Work4Peace, right on. That IS what they've done.
Now, who'd know there IS a war going on? Not from the media.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 08:22 AM
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31. Polls are there to coerce public opinion, not reflect it.
Why does anyone still believe one word of mainline media propaganda?

How's that definition of insanity go....?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:36 PM
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13. Mark Penn rigs another poll
Let's see if he can successfully rig the vote.

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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:40 PM
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14. That scares the hell out of me....
how about you? Do we need more of the same?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 12:01 AM
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17. Me too. When's the last time you saw a failing campaign shoot up like this?
Oh yeah, it was right before Bush stole the 2004 election.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 11:42 PM
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15. In the latest rasmussen poll HRC is leading 31 to 27...People
are turning away from celebrity and after taking another look at Obama they are not pleased with him. At first it was a push for him but folks in Iowa are coming back to their original thoughts and it's looking good this week for HRC.

Ben David
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 12:03 AM
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18. The Latest Rasmussen Poll Delves Deeper Than the Top Line...
... for those who enjoy the http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/iowa/democratic_iowa_caucus">data dices.

For example:

"Among those who have participated in the caucus before it’s Obama 26% Clinton 25% and Edwards 24%."

- Dave
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 12:07 AM
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19. Link to actual ARG poll page:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 12:27 AM
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21. Didn't see your post.
Sorry.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 12:54 AM
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22. i believe in fairies more than those numbers...
yeah, she just magically imbued the entire state with the holiday spirit, and, lo and behold, she's rebounded and blown away the competition! :o it's a miracle! a miracle, i tell you! she must be like Neo from the Matrix ~ she's the ONE! :crazy:
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 12:57 AM
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23. I hope like hell this poll is inaccurate, if Hillary prevails that means
corporate america wins again, the liberal base and the net roots just don't have the resources to compete with corporate big money. If she wins the democratic nod I will not be inspired next year during the GE, I'm not supporting candidates that continue to put corporations ahead of the working people and I'm not supporting war mongers so it looks like I'll be ass out in 08.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 02:08 AM
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24. 22% of likely caucus participants are undecided...
22% of likely caucus participants are undecided (10%) or say that they could switch candidates between now and January 3 (12%).
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 03:47 AM
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25. Santa Claus is bringing the votes! They're falling down chimneys!!
:rofl: only for Hillary!! :rofl: because she was a good little girl!
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 07:17 AM
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26. We all know, or should, that polls in Iowa are worthless...
except as being indicators of general trends. The Iowa caucus is driving both pollsters and the media crazy. Their crystal balls are all cloudy no matter what they do, whose kitchen they try to hide in, or the strangers they follow down the street to the market.

A pox on their many houses.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 07:32 AM
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27. Momentary silence as Obamites try to think of some new smears to salvage the situation.
Edited on Tue Dec-25-07 07:33 AM by Perry Logan
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 07:37 AM
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28. LOL! Those who would naively trust polls in Iowa just before a
caucus deserve the disappointment they will experience when the results come in. Never, never, never presume you can predict what the citizens of this state will do when they have had a chance to sit in rooms and discuss with each other what they are looking for in a leader. Up to now, we have been sitting in rooms with candidates in them. When the candidates are gone, the negotiations will begin away from the cameras and the pundits and the paid politicos.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 07:40 AM
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29. Its a lie!
The Republican freaks are dead meat. And the neat thing is they know it.

Don
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-25-07 08:16 AM
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30. yes
the media-machine-conglomerate-corporate-whores will NOT be pleased when the Jr Senator from NY gets 25% or less in Iowa. They've been screaming she's had this locked up for a year.

And what is more funny, is that when Obama or Edwards drops out - the other will shoot up over 50%. This really happens if people keep pointing out the mistakes and cuddling up to B*sh's war that she's in support of - Democrats seem to forget they despise this war and she's for it.
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