Gosh! If Obama came in 1st and Clinton was 3rd, that means SOMEONE must have been 2nd!

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

Anyone have any idea who that might have been? Because you would have to look long and hard at the papers this morning before you would find out who.

This crap has got to stop!

[OneGrassRoot]

1. Same thing on the TV...

I watched all I could last night and this morning to get a feel for how the Edwards camp feels or how the pundits viewed the results (not that this matters that much any more), but it's all Obama (congrats to him, BTS! :) ) and Clinton, and Huckabee.

:shrug:

[orleans]

56. i think it was nightline friday night that did a piece about obama

coming in first and hillary's whatever in new hampshire because she was third.

i don't recall hearing who the hell came in second. (at least not on nightline)

[fasttense]

2. The corporations hate Edwards.

So the corporate media's plan is to ignore him. Everyone got the memo. But somehow, despite spending less money, Edwards got voted in right behind the big O. I'm impressed. Edwards is a fighter, he will fight for the American middle class and not sell out to corporate interests in the hope of being bipartisan. He will not roll over and play with the repukes. The corporate media hates that about him.

[sendero]

23. This is our chance..

... to once again show the #$%^# mainstream media how irrelevant they are.

People will learn about Edwards and his positions and see him speak on You
Tube and other internet sources - we don't need these dumbass talking heads decided who is important and who is not.

Edwards has his work cut out for him but I truly believe he has the right message, one that Americans are starting to realize is true and will respond to. And if the MSM doesn't want us to hear it, well that is just too bad.

[shadowknows69]

3. We just have to figure out how to win without the media

Edwards has been "persona non grata" in the media since day one because of his positions. This we know and apparently were able to counter it in Iowa but a win was the only thing that could have gotten him some publicity. The only thing you'll hear about Edwards in the MSM is how inevitable his dropping out is.

[MADem]

4. Up, down. Back, forth. Man, Woman. Black, White.

Winner, Loser.

The middle ground isn't as interesting--even if the difference between the "loser" and the middle ground is less than a percent.

They paint with a broad brush. Vote with your remote.

Imus has spent a lot of time talking about Edwards, as well as Obama and Clinton.

He hasn't done as much with the GOP field yet, beyond some schtick about Huckabee. It's still early though.

[JI7]

5. Edwards is on CNN right now

[shadowknows69]

9. Sweet!

[Justyce]

6. I sent emails complaining about their poor news coverage,

obvious avoidance of mentioning him, and obvious bias, reminding them that their job is to simply report the news, not try to shape it. I hope they get flooded with similar calls and emails -- it's got to stop!

[mmonk]

7. Yep.

Now they will say it's time for John to drop out. How many people coming in second after the first caucus have been asked that before?

[Swamp Rat]

8. When Larry King asked Blitzer his opinion about the evening's events, he skipped Edwards altogether.

Blitzer went from talking about Hillary and Obama to Huckabee and the other repukes, completely leaving out Edwards, as did most everyone else.

[stickernation]

62. what a DICK !

you know compared to wolf blitzer, tweety is prince valiant :/ HATED him during GULF WAR I, which I protested vigorously freshman year. WOLF BLITZER CAN DO THE WEATHER AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

[Double T]

10. Edwards is ANTI-corporate and the MSM is going to make certain.......

his message doesn't get through. Some of the MSM was suggesting last night that he might even drop out, WTF is that about? Fighting on for our next President, John Edwards!!!

[MannyGoldstein]

11. Edwards Did Slightly Worse Than In 2004

That's not exactly a big news story.

The following are big stories:
* Obama won
* Huckabee won
* Clinton didn't win
* Willard didn't winn

[shadowknows69]

12. Considering the emphasis the media places on campaign funds

I would think someone outspent as much as Edwards was coming in second would be news. Maybe covering that much of the story would require something like a 24 hour news station. Oh, wait.

[MannyGoldstein]

16. Good Point On The Funding

Although it could be argued that Huckabee's win was much more dramatic in that respect.

[shadowknows69]

17. True but especially the Hillary juggernaut the MSM has created

Anyone besting her is worth mentioning. Edwards should be mentioned in the same breath as Huck in that respect.

[Gloria]

50. On the McLaughlin report Edwards was mentioned abot 13 minutes into the

half hour. Asked if he could win, Eleanor Clift answered with a resounding "NO,he doesn't have the resources."

No mention of policy, of course. In fact, there is never analysis of policy. You get the candidate talking points, then hours of "punditry" all slanted one way or the other...except, for JE, of course.

Yup, money talks, nobody walks.

[Patriot Abroad]

63. Exactly - the news on the day was Obama trounced Billary

and Edwards was about where he was expected to be. He'll start picking up some states as we go along, and then he'll get his 15 minutes . . . 3 months ago, the MSM was treating Guliani as a lock . . .

[Canuckistanian]

13. I was just mentioning on another thread

That our CBC news had a report about the results last night.

The reporter said and I quote, "This is obviously a two-person race - Obama and Clinton".

There was not ONE WORD about Edwards' performance.

[shadowknows69]

14. Has our ministry of information taken over your country too?

[Canuckistanian]

21. No, not quite

It's my theory that the CBC reporter they sent out probably hung out with a lot of American "journalists" and relied on their "judgement" for the analysis.

I just checked the official CBC News site story and it's much more fair.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/01/03/iowa-caucus.html

[madmom]

41. I heard that said on msnbc this morning also...WTF?

[K Gardner]

15. Scarbrough: "We're supposed to be sitting here digging Edward's grave .."

Trippi: "Why are you talking like that?"

They are reluctantly giving Edward's campaign a few minutes of air time, but they obviously don't like doing it. Shuster says he likes Edward's message best but wonders if he can carry on through NH. Trippi pointed out that 70% of those who turned out voted against HRC.

And that has been the extent of Edwards coverage today. They're mainly focused on the Miracle of Huckabee. It's rather disgusting.

[Kolesar]

18. NPR said that he did quite well in Iowa on a scant budget compared to Barack and Hillary

It was still insufficient coverage.

[deminks]

19. Scabby to Trippi: Where did you get that coat, Salvation Army?

Making fun of Edwards walking the walk and not spending as much as the others.

Edwards can play with the big dogs, and spend a 10th of what they do.

[OneGrassRoot]

20. Fight versus "good-feeling" inspiration?

An interesting comment by someone made me think of this.

I like both Obama and Edwards, but I am primarily an Edwards supporter.

Aside from policy differences, there is an obvious difference in their approach.

Edwards is a fighter. He is trying to get us to stand up and fight for this country, and very much believes it will take a fight. I happen to agree wholeheartedly, so his fighting stance appeals to me and inspires me.

Perhaps a very large part of this country - including young people - are tired of the fight. They've only known extreme bipartanship in both the Clinton and Bush administrations. They want a change, but they want a more peaceful transition, and I think Obama presents that as the path he offers.

It's because I think it is going to take a fight that I choose Edwards. Granted, I would prefer that it not be such a fight, but I believe it is. I admire Obama's approach but feel we are in a situation in this country that compromise isn't an option any longer, though I sincerely wish it were.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

22. Interesting analysis

I think it is true that I am spoiling for a fight because I see where making nice and compromise and avoiding confrontation by the Democrats has put us exactly in the horrific position we are in right now:

occupation, torture, awful economy, weak dollar, corrupted Justice Department, etc. etc. etc.

As others have pointed out, if being nice was going to work, it would have worked by now.

[BrklynLiberal]

27. Too bad..since "negotiating" or finding common ground with the Repukes means being seen as a sucker

especially by the Repukes...

I believe everyone should keep in mind what Benjamin Franklin said...

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

[crazylikafox]

36. Totally agree. Voting "present" just doesn't cut it....

Fight on John!

[Warren Stupidity]

24. Interesting, isn't it?

Pravda is doing its thing again.

[mwb970]

25. Edwards on NPR now.

So he's not being completely ignored. Just mostly.

Edwards is talking about running against "celebrity candidates" and the "Clinton political machine".

[BrklynLiberal]

26. hmmmm..and if we allow more media mergers we will never hear about anyone but the corporatists.

YEA Edwards!!!

[marions ghost]

28. For the first time

I'm sending money to Edwards because of this. The corporate control of the media in this country is so grotesque. Their omissions speak volumes.

The Story is (OBVIOUSLY) "Obama AND Edwards knock back Clinton in Iowa." Duh.

:mad:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

29. John was interviewed live on The Today Show this AM. Meredith tried to make it appear

a huge loss for him and he was wonderful in combating that!

[lisainmilo]

30. I noticed the same thing...and

If there is a report it has negative undertones....the difference between a PEOPLES PRESIDENT and a corporate president!

[NoFederales]

31. Agreed! Anyone who doubts corporate media isn't framing politics

is delusional. The only tool I know to stay abreast with the MSM is the Internet. But lurking in the background is the biggest corporate political trick: the stolen caucus/primary/nomination/election. And who the hell seems to care?

Who's screaming about Election Reform?

NoFederales

[gristy]

32. My morning DJ did the same thing on the radio

Obama 1st, Clinton 3rd :wtf:

[debbierlus]

33. It is rather stunning isn't it. It is like Edwards doesn't exist.

The whole system is fucked.

[conspirator]

34. If Edwards is enemy of the corporations then he is my friend nt

[KansDem]

35. Yeah, mathematicians and bookies both know that.

But not the media whores apparently...

[emulatorloo]

37. The most bizarre "EDWARDS DOES NOT EXIST" moment on MSNBC last night:

Was when a commentator on MSNBC pointed out that without the independents, Obama only beat Hillary by 1 point.

By the same math, that would mean that without the independents OBAMA and EDWARDS would have TIED FOR FIRST. Did they mention that? NO.

Even OLBERMANN was focused on Obama v Hillary.

[deminks]

40. Yes, even the beloved Keith Olbermann dissed Edwards

the one time he mentioned him. I found it to be very strange, indeed.

[donkeyotay]

42. Good observation.

I thought Olbermann looked uncomfortable. The coverage was odd and telling in its omissions. I gotta send Edwards some money.

[bvar22]

38. I watched MSNBC last night,

and the same was true. I am was a huge fan of Olberman, but lost ALL respect for him as he and Tweety went to EXTREME lengths to IGNORE Edwards huge victory in beating the Hillary Machine.

The ONLY ones willing to mention Edwards upset defeat of Hillary were the Conservative Republicans....Ghouliani and Pat Buchanan!!!!!

I'm dropping my support for Kucinich (still love him) and sending my $MONEY$ to Edwards.
We have a chance to nominate a Populist!



The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[Robbien]

39. It was amazing to watch the pundits carefully carrying out their marching orders

I kept thinking WTF?

But then on second thought it may not be a bad thing they are not talking about Edwards. The only topics they are willing to talk about when pontificating about Edwards are the Three H's. Haircut, Home, Hedge Fund. Forget the multitude of populist programs Edwards is promoting, pundits will not talk about anything but Haircut, Home, Hedge Fund.

So no mention from MSM is much better than their standard fare.

[Kajsa]

43. But they will be damned if they say it.

It's as if Edwards is the no-no name in the MSM.

Damn straight this crap has got to stop!

[alfredo]

44. Raymond Poulidor?

Old cycling fans will know who I am talking about.

[frogmarch]

45. My husband just came upstairs from watching

a Denver TV channel downstairs, and said some newscaster had Edwards coming in 3rd in Iowa! :mad:

I've always been a KO fan, but he's been pissing me off a lot lately too, by brushing Edwards aside. If he does it again tonight, from now on I'll watch something else in his time slot.

[mzmolly]

46. Wasn't it Dodd?

:P

[Maat]

47. I'm a Kucinich supporter ...

but perhaps I need to support Edwards also; I'm always very suspicious when the Corporatocracy tries to shift my attention away from something.

[Rex]

48. They want to 'Dean' John.

No character assassinations, just left out in the desert to die. Assholes.

[Melissa G]

49. Play 'Ask a Media Website' and Question why they are ignoring Edwards

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2596338

[Dr. Strange]

51. It was Obama. He came in first AND second.

[caseycoon]

60. OHHHHHH....

That explains it!
THANKS!
:rofl:

I don't know why I'm so shocked by this.
The MSM sucks & we know it!
GRRRRRR

[diane in sf]

52. I haven't watched too much corporate news since 9-11, the agenda is insulting

and obvious.

[McCamy Taylor]

53. rofl

[balantz]

54. It is truly digusting and distressing to watch the kill by the M$M

K.O. and Moyers (especially) and others should hang their heads for selling out their journalistic ideals of fair and equal reporting to the corporate sucks. And watching the puffed-up Obamaites here at DU get so fucking haughty and look down their better-than noses at what they would percieve to be a "squashed bug" is equally disgusting! If the tables were turned I can't see too many Edwards supporters acting in such a way. It's one thing to cheer, and maybe gloat a little, but turning asshole paints a picture maybe of the character of the one they uphold so highly? Obama has turned me off lately with his words and actions, and I can say the same of some of his supporters here at DU!

[tangerine1700]

55. Edwards=what we need

Edwards is our man because he will not stand down. even with the media ignoring him and the corporations hating him.

soon the media will have to pay attention.

John Edwards for President 2008

love,
tangerine

[Mythsaje]

57. Welcome to DU!

Good to see another Edwards supporter signing on.

[Exultant Democracy]

58. Are you talking about the guy how spent the last 4 years living in Iowa?

I like the guy but get real this is a huge blow, Iowa made him last time and probably broke him this time.

[caseycoon]

59. 2nd was a blank space...

as near as I can tell! I was so happy that my second choice guy was second, but I guess I was mistaken. Edwards? Who is Edwards?
:sarcasm:

[Naturyl]

61. Pretty sure it was Huckabee.

Everyone knows there are only two Democrats running - Hillary and Obama - and yet Hillary came in third. Clearly this means there was a mistake and Huckabee placed second in the Democratic primary in addition to winning the Republican one.

John? John who? What? Never heard of him.

[AzDar]

64. Kick ...

:kick: