Poor Ron Paul - Supporters were prepared for revolution - Poor Showing in Iowa

[Ioo]

http://iowowned.ytmnd.com/

Enjoy

[demnan]

1. Actually I think he did pretty good

for a third-tier candidate. He sure did better than Kucinich, the other impeachment candidate.

[nonconformist]

2. Let's hope that he did well enough to consider running third party nt

[rAVES]

He Beat the Ghoul and thats all that matters.

[helderheid]

34. yep!

[book_worm]

3. I agree all the talk was how he might be in the top four because he "under polls"

and he ended up getting about what was expected and in fifth place--better than Rudy, but he abandoned the state.

[rAVES]

4. The State abandoned him.. why you using Ghoulies spin?

[book_worm]

10. relax, who fucking cares about the republicans anyway?

I'm just saying that Ron Paul didn't do all that great in coming in fifth.

[originalpckelly]

14. What? He was polling at 1% and brought in 10% and was in the top five on their side.

Your facts would seem to be wrong my friend.

[book_worm]

18. I'm talking about recent polls which show he had between 8-10 points

look at the Zogby tracking poll and how everybody said he was "under performing". Yes, he was the top five out of six on their side--#5. I even heard Zogby and others saying that they wouldn't be surprised if he came in third or fourth with 15% of the vote. He didn't do so spectacularly, but if you think so then fine. How a Republican does is not of much interest to me.

[originalpckelly]

21. I would suggest that he's not your typical Republican...

and I'd welcome a change of their side to policies that are actually negotiable, I'd rather be arguing with them about taxes than whether or not we believe the Writ of Habeas Corpus may only be denied in cases of invasion or rebellion. That's why I'm interested in him doing better, he'd at least be someone we could deal with.

[book_worm]

22. well, except for his stand on the war he's pretty right wing for me.

but at least he got the war right.

[Rageneau]

30. He has the WOD right, too.

Paul opposes the Iraq War and the phoney-baloney "war" on drugs, too.

His opposition to these two impossible-to-win wars that the Republicans got us into makes him my favorite GOP candidate.

He's the anti-Republican conservative.

[Double T]

5. Iowa was meaningless for BOTH Democrats and rethugs,

The REAL election contest starts next week on Tuesday in NH where the order of the winners and losers will change dramatically.

[whistle]

6. Wait until the repuke primaries move to real racist states

[txaslftist]

7. Wow. There are entire states that are racists?

Who knew?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. There are states that elect racists politicians.

And they're not distributed randomly.

[txaslftist]

11. That's funny.

'Cause I practice criminal defense. And I've practiced in Texas (which I presume you'd call a racist state) and Wisconsin (which I presume you'd say wasn't).

And there was no difference in the genocide that the two systems inflicted on minorities, other than the fact that in Wisconsin they pay more lip service to "tolerance" and "diversity". You want to see a racist substate? Go to Milwaukee and compare the west side and suburbs to the north side and suburbs. You want to see a city where race is a huge factor in where you live or your relative wealth? Try Chicago on for size.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. There's no difference?

Oh, I disagree with that.

[txaslftist]

25. Well, I've spent most of my adult life in the two states.

To call Texas a racist state is to ignore the entire southern half of it, to ignore Austin, to ignore Dallas and to focus on a little bitty part of eastern Texas. It's just as valid to focus on Milwaukee and say that it's representative of Madison.

To say that overt racists make up about 5% of the population in Texas and 2% of the population in Wisconsin and therefore Texas is a "racist state?" Gimme a break. It's little wonder the South has gone so deeply red, and this state in particular.

The disdain and the holier than thou attitude of so-called progressive states gets extremely tedious. Sure, we (along with Connecticut) produced George Bush. But progressive California produced Ronald kick-the-homeless Reagan and liberal New York produced Rudi lock-up-anything-brown Giuliani.

"Racist states". Sheesh. Why not just say dumbass hillbilly idjit states? Let residents of the "unfortunate" states know how you really feel.

[whistle]

9. correction...high density racist states ie Florida where one in five pick-up trucks

...have a confederate flag or KKK coded license plate

[txaslftist]

12. The Confederate flag ...

means different things to different folks. To some it is a racist beacon, to others it's a big FU to the federal government (which needs a big FU now and then) and to some it's even a state's rights thing. I don't know about KKK coded license plates, I never heard of such a thing.

[Kingshakabobo]

15. Yeah, a big "FU" to the feds for enforcing librul-commie desegregation and civil rights laws.

I don't agree with most of the broad brush smears of the south but please don't piss on our shoes and tell us it's raining.

[txaslftist]

26. O for Chrissakes, if the South was so damn useless,

why did the North have to kill 250,000 southerners to keep hold of them?

[Kingshakabobo]

27. Your reply has WHAT to do with my post? .... or your original post? or anything?

Help me out here........or should I say "Hep" me out here.

[txaslftist]

29. It has to do with the notion that there are "racist" states.

Which was my reply to a different post.

The South bashing here gets tedious.

[Kingshakabobo]

31. I wasn't south bashing.

Like I said, I don't like it either.........but spewing that "states rights" bullshit as it pertains to the confederate flag CERTAINLY doesn't help YOUR credibility.

[txaslftist]

33. Not here, it doesn't.

Here only one viewpoint as to why the Civil War was fought is acceptable. The laughable notion that Lincoln -who said that if he could preserve the Union by permitting the slavery to continue he would- wanted to free the slaves.

Robert E. Lee said contemporaneously that he was fighting for state's rights, so did any number of other Southern notables. But that kind of contemporaneous history is not acceptable politically in the present environment certainly.

[Naturyl]

39. I know someone who totally agrees with your views

About the South and the Civil War. This person makes precisely the same arguments whenever those subjects come up.

And this person also happens to be a racist who says the n-word on a daily basis.

Not saying that means you are... but it's interesting to me.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

16. Uh huh.

And a swastika is just a sign of noble german heritage to some people.

[originalpckelly]

19. Or a map of a Navy barracks in San Diego.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. Do people put that on the back of their pickups?

[originalpckelly]

23. I fail to see how a swastika would get a woman to go home with you.

Whether or not it is on the back or the front of the pickup.

[originalpckelly]

17. To others it means try, try again if at first you don't secede.

OK, that's actually pretty funny.

:rofl:

[NeedleCast]

32. Which states are those?

If your answer is anything other than "all of them," you're wrong.

[txaslftist]

35. Bingo.

We got a winner.

[alfredo]

24. I've enjoyed his campaign. He added a bit of reality to the debate

concerning bush's war. Yes, he is a nutcase, but he's an entertaining nutcase.

[JNelson6563]

28. lol Love the graphic

Good one. :toast:

[Lasher]

36. Some speculation people from other states participated in the Iowa caucus

And this could explain why Paul got 10% in the caucus but only 7.3% in the latest RCP average.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ia/iowa_republican_caucus-207.html

Officials and campaigners in both parties are worried that zealous out-of-state staffers and non-Iowa supporters of candidates may try to vote in the caucuses, thereby skewing the results.

On the Republican side, GOP officials are watching precincts in Council Bluffs and Davenport to make certain people aren't driving across the state line to participate. They are particularly concerned about Ron Paul's over-caffeinated backers."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2598038#2598157

In a way this is a relief to me. It's disturbing to think that as many as 10% of Republicans are stupid enough to support the idiot Ron Paul.

[lame54]

37. ...

[Naturyl]

38. LOL...

I made a YTMND for Ron a while back...

http://ronpaulreligion.ytmnd.com/