Before you start with the Diebold conspiracy thing, consider this .....

[Stinky The Clown]

..... and I am NOT saying the election is being counted fairly or not ...... I don't know and there are no back up facts yet ..... we're all seeing the same thing at the same time ......... but consider ......

A month ago, Clinton was way ahead of Obama.

A week ago, Clinton was ahead of Obama.

In the last few days, the polls - not votes, not actual voters having a say, just eggheaded pollsters - the polls showed a wild swing to Obama.

And maybe that wild swing was just too wild. It sure seemed pretty amazing to me.

So maybe what we have is crazy polls and generally accurate vote counting.

Again, I make NO claim to know what's going on. I am in no way saying Diebold isn't, or can't, or won't, or wouldn't fuck with the counts.

But it is also possible that the pollsters were just flat out wrong. Big time wrong.

[russian33]

1. kind of logical reasoning...

...so can't be right :)

[AX10]

2. I found it odd that Obama was making such massive...

gains in less than a week.

[avaistheone1]

6. That was odd.

But I don't trust Diebold, or electronic voting machines in general. They have a terrible history and track record.

[The Magistrate]

3. Indeed, Sir

At this point, claims of fraud are simply reflex. like the struttings of a head-less chicken 'round the barnyard....

[Sparkly]

9. H2S just showed me your reply...

He's laughing so hard he can't catch his breath yet...

[Sancho]

4. Must be the reluctant poll respondent thing again...

:nopity:

[still_one]

5. If it was one poll I would agree with you, but this was most of the polls

I suspect the people were not being honest with the pollsters

[leftofthedial]

7. what we have is a media conspiracy to write the "script" for the campaigns and the election

just like they did in 2000 and 2004

[Rageneau]

12. Exactly right. Their plan failed beause they couldn't make Hillary "scream."

It was after his third-place finish in Iowa that the MSM manipulated Dean's exuberance into the notorious "Dean Scream" -- which they ten broadcast almost as often as Clinton's "I did not have sex with that woman" moment.

No doubt they were hoping -- even trying to provoke -- a similar weak moment from Hillary, a few seconds of videotape which they could use to hound her out of the race and clear the way for the easier-to-beat candidate.

[Bright Eyes]

8. All of the polls?

I can understand one or two being off, but every single poll I saw had Obama leading by at least 5 points, at most 13 points.

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. And I saw a Poli-Sci NH Professor who polls every election and even HE had Obama ahead!

He was on C-SPAN this morning. Not ALL of the polls could be wrong! They stole the damn election.

[doublethink]

10. I only pay attention to EXIT polls ......

which historically are very accurate. There is no place in our society for these DRE machines in America, democratic or republican. Any info on the actual exit vote results earlier tonight? Heard McCain's victory were pretty accurate. What happened on the Dem side? Peace.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Obama won the CNN exit poll !!!

[AlGore-08.com]

11. I thought I read some pollsters CTAing that there wasn't enough time between Iowa & NH

to get a sound sample.

[ecstatic]

13. The ones who switched to Obama merely switched back; particularly after yesterday's

incidents. I'm actually happy for her because she looked so down in spirits yesterday. The race is really on now!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Minor problem with your theory. According to CNN exit poll

the people who said they decided at the polls split even between Obama and Clinton

[spanone]

14. the pollsters are in the entertainment biz.....