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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:37 PM
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Hillary: Rice Convinced Me on Iraq Vote By Saying Cheney Was "Confused" on Authorization Use!
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 01:44 PM by Dems Will Win


CONCORD MONITOR: HILLARY CLINTON SAYS CONDOLEEZA RICE TOLD HER THAT "DICK MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN CONFUSED" ABOUT THE WAR AUTHORIZATION BEING FOR WAR INSTEAD OF INSPECTORS

Hil spoke about her being convinced by the neo-cons on her war vote on MTP, but she left this out:

When Hillary couldn't MAKE UP HER MIND about IRAQ, she ended up turning to Condoleeza Rice for guidance! Hillary asked if the Authorization would be used to put inspectors back in or take us to war as DICK CHENEY was implying. Rice convinced her to vote for the war with these very words: "Yes, that's what it's intended to do. I think Dick might have gotten confused."

And Hillary bought it. About Dick Cheney maybe getting confused about the almighty power she was thinking about giving him!

THEN TO TOP IT ALL OFF SHE DOES NOT EVEN READ THE N.I.E., AS BOB GRAHAM DID, WHICH STATED IN THE FOOTNOTES THAT THERE HAD NOT BEEN WMD IN IRAQ SINCE 1995!

Clinton: Rice linked Iraq vote, inspections
Submitted by Monitor Staff on Fri, 2007-12-21 19:47.

Following up on what Ambassador Richard Holbrooke told us earlier this week regarding Hillary Clinton's vote to authorize the use of military force against Iraq, we asked Sen. Clinton today if it was correct that Colin Powell had persuaded her that the resolution could be a vote to avoid war rather than a vote for war.

She replied: "No, it wasn't Colin Powell. it was Condi Rice. Condi Rice told me specifically when I was still weighing all of the evidence, and I had been to the White House one last time -- I think, if I'm not mistaken, it was Oct. 8 -- and I'd had the whole presentation by the CIA and others and I hadn't asked any questions, I had listened. And I went back to my office, and Condi Rice called me and said, You didn't ask any questions, do you have any questions? I said I only have one: Will you use this authorization to put inspectors back in, so that we can find out whether any of this is true, how much WMD he still has or has reconstituted? She said, Yes, that's what it's intended to do. I think Dick might have gotten confused."

Monitor: And you had no reason to doubt her?

Clinton: "I did not.
Because -- certainly I didn't rely on the Bush administration. I did a lot of my own due diligence, I talked to a lot of people in my husband's administration, I talked to Tony Blair, I talked to a lot of sources, and I had the same question: Do you think he still has these kinds of capacities? And the rationale made sense to me. When we got there after the first Gulf War, he was much further advanced in his nuclear program and we knew he had used chemical weapons. When we discovered his nuclear program in '91, the inspectors went in and for seven years dismantled everything that they could find. In '98, he threw the inspectors out, which at least to me raised the possibility that they were getting close to something, and therefore he wanted them out. The Americans and the British bombed every site that he prevented the inspectors from going to that we had a record of, but we had no good intelligence as to what was or wasn't there. And the idea behind any concern about Saddam Hussein was rooted in his personality and his governing philosophy. He was a megalomaniac.

"Putting inspectors back in -- which the United Nations voted for, the Security Council was all in favor of -- was a way to really put some checks and balances to find out what he really did have. What we know now is that Bush had no intention of letting the inspections run their course. But the argument of putting inspectors back in, backed up by force -- because Saddam never did anything that didn't have at least the backup threat of force -- was not on its face totally illegitimate. So I was willing to give him the authority to do that, and he misused the authority."

http://www.yourconcord.com/primaryblog/clinton_rice_linked_iraq_vote_inspections


Note that Hillary is saying Rice told her "Dick must have gotten confused" and then the reporter asks "AND YOU HAD NO REASON TO DOUBT HER?" and Hil replies, "I DID NOT". So the line about Dick came from Rice to convince Hillary AND SHE BOUGHT IT. The "Dick being confused" remark came from Rice, I repeat, and was NOT a snide aside from Hillary herself to the reporter about Cheney.

PLEASE RECOMMEND IF YOU DON'T TRUST CONDOLEEZA RICE AND THEN TELL US WHY HILLARY SHOULD NOT HAVE TRUSTED HER EITHER BELOW
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:06 PM
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1. Condi looks good in green
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:13 PM
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2. Just bullshit on top of bullshit, this so-called "explanation" K&R
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:15 PM
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3. I've said it before but it bears repeating
I'm past the Iraq vote now, even if she doesn't apologize. What she SHOULD apologize for is how she's continued to vote AFTER that initial vote for war:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x331580
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:20 PM
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4. Birds of a feather and all that
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:39 PM
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5. Nobody could have expected that they would actually use the authority.
I give up on the lying. Clinton should simply say "I was wrong".
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:49 PM
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6. Heeeeeres your sign!
I'm stupid. Please lie to me.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:49 PM
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7. HRC: "I'm a dumbass! I thought y'all LIKED dumbasses."
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:52 PM
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8. Anyone looking forward to 4 more years ('cause that'll be all she gets) of BULLSHIT?
Personally, I've had enough.
No more Clintons, No more Bushes...No more taking it in our tushes!!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:37 PM
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9. I like that chant!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 06:39 PM
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10. D'oh!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:18 PM
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11. Yup
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:26 PM
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12. That's a very misleading subject line...
The portion that is in bold type explains Rice told Hillary they would send inspectors back into Iraq.

It says nothing that she was convinced by the fact that Cheney was confused.

Common sense dictates that the reporter was referring to the discussion with Rice over inspectors...not that Dick was confused.

I know a lot of people have issues with Hillary's vote for very valid reasons. I see no purpose in attempting to misconstrue this interview in order to bolster that opinion. It's not needed. In fact, in following up the question to the reporter nowhere does she indicate Cheney's confusion played any role whatsoever.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 11:31 PM
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13. Using a woman to push a war mongering agenda.
Can someone remind me why we're supposed to believe there's something inherently better about having a woman in the White House?
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