Blackhatjack
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:17 PM
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When they say "CHANGE" Who do you believe really means it? Edwards/Obama/Hillary??? |
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Considering that for the past year Hillary was 'strength and experience' And Obama was going to 'work in a bipartisan way'
Who do you find the most believable when they use the word 'change'?
Edwards? Obama? Or Hillary?
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:19 PM
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1. Is it really possible? I think they ALL mean it in slightly different ways. |
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Any of them would be a change for the better from the Republicans, in my humble opinion.
They would each have the challenges set in front of them.
Stop the war. Improve the economy. See if we can right some of the wrongs done by the Bush "crime family".
Etc. etc.
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:20 PM
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2. I think they all "really mean it." nt |
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:24 PM
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6. They all mean it. Edwards' definition of change and ability to ... |
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bring about that change is more pronounced.
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:43 PM
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:23 PM
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:31 PM
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10. Hillary brings the knowledge and experience that is needed. |
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We've had enough of know nothings. Any one that gets it is going to have 1 heck of a job cleaning up the mess this whole world is in mostly due to Bush and his advisers. We need a President that can think for herself and not have to go to old buddies that served as someones asst. 40 yrs ago.
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:23 PM
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Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 11:23 PM by southerncrone
He "gets it". He knows that corporations have a strangle hold on our government. THAT is the thing that needs to change most, and fastest, if we are to be a representative democracy again.
Clinton & Obama want to play by the corporations rules while telling us they are going to "change" things for the Avg. Joe/Jill. It can't happen. Edwards is right.
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:23 PM
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5. Hillary Clinton would certainly be a big change. What alarms me is the |
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Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 11:27 PM by Radio_Lady
backbiting and the infighting going on here are totally disgusting. We have at least three candidates who could be president. Personally, I think Hillary Clinton is the best choice at this time. However, I am prepared to vote for the Democratic ticket all the way in November.
But what happens is that "discussion" about one's favorite candidate turns into "rancor" so easily, and quickly becomes sexist, racist, and personal attacks on the candidates.
I didn't expect this to happen with other Democrats and wonder aloud how we will all get along at this site for the next eleven months.
Cordially,
Radio Lady
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:26 PM
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:27 PM
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8. I just wondered how others reacted when they each claimed they stood for 'change'... |
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Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 11:28 PM by Blackhatjack
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:29 PM
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9. I Believe both Edwards and Obama, in That Order n/t |
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:31 PM
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I believe he means what he says about taking it to the corporate criminals. The other two, not so much.
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:31 PM
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12. They all think they mean it |
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but I have the most faith in John Edwards' vision at this point. My bar is set pretty low -- just having the monkey out of the White House is a change I can get behind.
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:33 PM
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13. I believe them all... |
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because I think no matter which ones winds up in the WH we will see a fundamental change almost immediately. Just in how this country does business will be completely different.
I can't wait. Clinton, Obama and Edwards would all make good presidents. Whoever does win...I will toast him or her on inauguration day. :toast:
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:34 PM
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I think everyone SAID they want change - even Bushsi did
But in order Edwards / Obama / Hillary
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Sun Jan-13-08 11:38 PM
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15. Considerering what bi-partisan collaboration means. Patriot act, |
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spying,robbing the federal reserves, and stuff like that, I say no more bi-partisan business. That is until all Americans have a job, and health care. I like tough, but I want someone who is going to be transparent when they go to town for us. I don't want any more backroom negotiations.
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Mon Jan-14-08 12:09 AM
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17. Edwards was the first to propose detailed plans to change policy on health |
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care, the environment, the poor, ending the outsourcing, no nuclear energy and a number of other issues. He also wants to change the culture of D.C. by excluding corporate lobbyists from the White House and diminishing their influence on our federal government. Therefore, I believe he is the candidate of change.
Obama and Hillary represent change in terms of for the former, his race and for the latter, her gender. Obama also wants to change the culture in D.C. but is very vague about how he will do it. Hillary does not want to change the culture in D.C. Just how sincere Obama and Hillary are on some of the policy changes they claim to support is hard to ascertain because Edwards proposed changes in a number of areas, and Obama and Hillary just kind of joined. Neither Hillary nor Obama is committed to excluding corporate lobbyists from the White House or diminishing their influence on federal government. Hard to say how committed they really are to the changes they propose on issues like outsourcing, trade, environment, etc.
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Mon Jan-14-08 12:11 AM
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The change when we get rid of Bush will be enormous.
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Mon Jan-14-08 12:12 AM
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19. John Edwards talks about confronting powerful interests, while Obama talks about bipartisanship. |
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One is confrontational attempting to inform people that change won't happen unless the rich interests that dominate America are turned back. The other talks in conciliatory rhetoric about reaching across the aisle to the same group of people the other person accuses of unfairly rigging the game.
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Mon Jan-14-08 12:13 AM
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20. Kucinich... ohe yeah, he's been excluded |
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cuz he'd CHANGE things in reality and significantly.
Otherwise, Edwards.
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