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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:03 PM
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I don't get it. Hillary wants to demand everyone has to have Health Care and
she will give us fucking "tax credits" to pay for it.

Yeah, and the fucking check is in the mail, right?

I will have to wait until the IRS sends me a check to defer some of the costs of the health care she forced us to buy!?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:05 PM
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1. Honestly, they should do it through payroll deduction...just like SS.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:06 PM
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4. Now that sounds more reasonable.
If it is to be considered mandatory, why not do as you suggest?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:16 PM
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9. Because it makes sense??
Honestly, I don't know. It seems to be a workable way to provide health insurance to all.

Actually, it was Howard Dean's idea...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:11 PM
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7. that`s part of dennis`s plan
he also has a provision to pay off the insurance companies...
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:05 PM
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2. There will be subsidies. for people who absolutely cannot afford
to pay.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:05 PM
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3. this country will be going into 2009 with a mess on their hands ...
in some ways, I don't want Edwards or Obama to have to go down into this crap we are facing because they'd get blamed. If the Clintons want to save the day with nothing, let them, I guess. I just see more debt ....
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:09 PM
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5. yes ..it`s the zombie baby of her old health plan
it`s insuring the insurance companies with our money. my parents had medicare and supplemental insurance and was never denied service or procedures and never had to pay a dime. the only thing that cost was the medicine. i hope that i can stay together long enough to get to medicare in a few years...why can`t we have medicare now? dennis has the plan and that`s why the msm ufo`d him in the first debate.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:09 PM
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6. None of the freakin' "leading contenders" are proposing
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 09:09 PM by ProudDad
health Care!

They are all pushing (forcing) more trillions of dollars from our pockets into the coffers of the health INSURANCE mafia -- you know, the fuckers who deny care for damn near every fucking thing that will "cost them too much"...

Only Kucinich is proposing Universal Health Care...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:14 PM
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8. ask any health care proffesional that deals with insurance
ask any that works in hospital billing ...i had an operation in july and the hospital still has`t been paid..she told me it`s only getting worse
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:24 PM
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14. You're right on this, and although I am voting for Edwards, what he and Clinton are proposing is not
true Universal Health Care.

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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:18 PM
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10. That's what loan sharks...er, bank loans are for, don't you know.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:19 PM
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11. and if you don't pay and use it for something else do you go to jail?
Does the entire family go to jail or just the parents and the kids go to foster care.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:20 PM
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12. I don't pay taxes
I don't have a fucking job

I buy my own insurance, but I can't afford to use it because of the deductible, the copays and the bulk of stuff that they refuse to cover
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:21 PM
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13. Exactly.
Anyone who thinks about it, gets it. But there's not a lot of thinking going on tonight.
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 09:24 PM
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15. That's what happens when you're a millionaire several times over
you have no idea what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck and how ridiculous the notion of "tax credits" is.
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