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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:38 PM
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American Spy Satellite Down in Peru
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 07:52 PM by Dover
Remember that story? (see link) Any updates?


American spy satellite downed in Peru as US nuclear attack on Iran thwarted
they got to be kidding...right?
20.09.2007 Source: URL: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/fee...py_satellite-0

Russian Military Intelligence Analysts are reporting today that one of the United States most secretive spy satellites, the KH-13, targeting Iran was 'destroyed in its orbit' with its main power generator powered by the radioactive isotope Pu-238 surviving re-entry and crashing in a remote region of the South American Nation of Peru, and where hundreds are reported to be ill from radiation poisoning.

Western media reports are stating that the US spy satellite debris hitting Peru was caused by a meteor, but which, according to these reports, would be 'impossible' as the size of 30-meter crater, if caused by a meteorite, would have hit the ground with about as much energy as 1 kiloton tactical nuclear weapon, and which would have been recorded by the seismic stations around the World.

Most astonishing about these reports, however, are that they state that it was the Americans themselves who destroyed their own spy satellite with the attack upon it being made by the United States Air Forces' 30th Space Wing located at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. This incident further fuels the intrigue involving the United States War Leaders plans to attack Iran in their attempt to engulf the entire Middle East in Total War, but, against which, according to Russian Military Intelligence Analysts, a 'high ranking and significant' faction of the American Military Establishment is opposed to....>

http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6827



Didn't China shoot down one of their satellites several months earlier, as sort of a show of military prowess?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:42 PM
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1. So many things have just DISAPPEARED off the radar -- no pun intended.
I'm also thinking of a New! bin Laden tape received! Story. Got the briefest of coverage, then poof! Gone. It was like they decided "nah, not the right time to put this out there" and let it die. I THINK it may have come out right about the same time as the NIE...


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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:42 PM
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2. WTF??
:wtf:
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 07:43 PM
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3. i was wondering why i hadnt heard anything else... n/t
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:26 PM
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4. Is that the same spy satellite
as this one?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22857051/

Or does that make it two U.S. spy satellites that have/will crash to earth?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:40 PM
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5. Two separate events.
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 08:42 PM by Dover
If you notice the article in the OP is from last year. That satellite (at least according to reports) was deliberately downed by the U.S.

The one you linked to has yet to come down. And according to the reports we don't have control over where it lands. Seems odd because I've also read that Russian satellites (and I would assume ANY country with satellites) contain a mechanism that causes them to blow up in the atmosphere upon re-entry, thus reducing the size and preventing secrets from being recovered.

Anyway, that is all I know.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 08:58 PM
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6. I am confused
What I was thinking about was the crater left in a remote part of Peru. It was 1st claimed that it was a meteorite, such as described here:

http://yournewreality.blogspot.com/2007/09/peru-meteorite-or-us-spy-satellite-600.html

Now we are learning that it was a spy satellite and yet another satellite is about to crash?

Just trying to sort it out in my mind. (Not an easy task.)
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:04 PM
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7. I guess it depends on which source you trust the most...
Edited on Thu Jan-31-08 09:05 PM by Dover
and ain't that always the way it is in Rummy's disinformation-crazy environment? Up is down, black is white and satellite is meteorite (or vise versa). I think U.S. reported meteorite and the Russians said satellite.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:22 PM
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10. Is the article in your OP
talking about the same incident in Peru from my linked article?
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:12 PM
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8. It's Pravda
go look at the link - it's a Russian National Inquirer.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:19 PM
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9. My link was Pravda?
You are making me more confused.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:58 PM
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13. Sorry - the OP linked to Pravda. nt
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:28 PM
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11. Yes your article and the OP are the same incident.
Not sure what your source is, but mine was in Pravda. Still confused?
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 09:42 PM
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12. Nope, I've got it now!
I googled spy + satellite + crash and clicked on the 1st article. It was a blog talking about the same incident.

Thank you.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:14 PM
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14. Meteor
Did quite a bit of reading on KH satellites after the first of the posts came up. I doubt very much that the Peru object was a satellite.


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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:28 AM
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15. I'll just point out
Old Russian satellite and radiation... well that's way more believable. At least if you know the satellite industry.
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