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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 PM
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Hate to ask - Reason John Edwards stopped his campaign?
Forgive me for asking this, but I'm wondering about the health of Elizabeth Edwards. I read somewhere that she had not been on the campaign trail with him for over a month and with his sudden departure and the first comments from tonight's debate, I wonder if her health has changed.

I hope not.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 PM
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1. She didn't look well in the photos from NOLA
either

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:34 PM
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2. Elizabeth is fine.She had a cold .He was likely pressuerd out.
He didn't say why.He said he had to step aside for "History" which is crap.He had enough money and was buying air time 6 million worth for Super Tues.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:38 PM
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3. I'm really sorry saracat,
you know I really feel your loss. I wish John had stayed in and fought it out. He was good for the country, and our party!:hug: DC
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:15 AM
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7. Thanks DC. I appreciate it! I am still going to try to get John some more delegates
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 12:16 AM by saracat
for Super Tuesday and then, I am done with National Politics.It will actually be a relief!I don't have to watch any more Debates! Or eat any more rubber chicken dinner, or donate any more money! Yay!
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:26 AM
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8. I've decided. i am voting for Edwards on Tuesday, too. I had been
leaning heavily toward Edwards, because I just cannot support either of the other two. So, I will join you on Tuesday and vote for Edwards! I am going to encourage everyone I know to vote for Edwards, anyway, They are, after all, our votes. Let's see if we can get him some relatively high percentages this coming Tuesday! Who knows, it might just turn him around...

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:31 AM
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9. Thanks.The more we get the stronger the message!
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:14 PM
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28. I voted for him via absentee...
The day before he dropped out. And if I were to have voted on Tuesday, I would have still voted for him. I don't see much difference at all between "The Other Two".
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:47 AM
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15. saracat, I am still voting for him in my primary.
yes, sara he was ousted. He was building momentum, and I laughed when the talking heads are trying to figure out where his supporters are going, let them wonder. Last nite that guy Josh Marshall was on Dan Abrams and they were talking about this, he said something like this "the Edwards supporters were very committed to John" that is what we are, and they are still trying to figure out where we supporters are going.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:39 PM
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4. I hope that's not the reason. nt
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:39 PM
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5. strategic move - we just don't know what it is yet - he suspended his run - did not withdraw n/t
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 11:49 PM
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6. If the Obama scandal hits the papers, Edwards would be
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 12:03 AM by mac2
in again.

The media picks a "dream candidate" and then tears them down. They want the RW Republicans to win. Even McCain has that bank scandal (S&L)which is not talked about.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:33 AM
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21. This is so desperate
Like the Dean and Clark campaigns both wistfully speaking of the impending intern scandal that would case Kerry to implode.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:53 AM
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24. It's not swift boating
Obama is an ambitious not so white knight candidate.
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Harkpark Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:53 AM
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10. Sigh
Some powerful force get both Obama and Hilary to stop fighting and work together.
Watch and decide for yourself these coming days.
An Obama/Hillary or Hillary/Obama tickets stop the republican right in the track.

Actually it is a none brainer decision.
For the democrat to win.
Both Obama and Hillary got large following
A big ugly all out fight will self destruct the party.

As an example just look at DU.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:00 AM
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11. I see you are new to DU
Did it occur to you that the party is on the wrong track?
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Harkpark Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:40 AM
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13. America is on the wrong track
Both parties are on the wrong track
Strange country when citizen hate each other cause they from different party
More strange when get all so work up over who they support.

But reality is America is on wrong track
Not going to change if people cant see past their hate of each other
Everyone trying to make biggest noise on voilin while America burnt
Stop behaving like Nero isnt it time to put out the fire?

Nothing going to change overnight cause you want it to
Me got no answer except keep eye on ball all the time
Me got no answer except much care needed to make good choice
It shouldnt be about which party
It should be about ability

Obama can pull people together
Hillary tough fighter.
Johm Edward has compassion

Why cant all 3 work together
Why cant all 3 decide base on strength to heal the country
America is in such a shit house that you need 10 Obama 10 Hilary and 10 Edward to even make a dent at solving the problems.
If you expect a President to do all the repairing by his own lonesome self that good luck to you guys.

Yes I am new. Was not too long ago when Kephra was with us.



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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:53 AM
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16. Great post!
:thumbsup:
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Harkpark Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:03 AM
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19. Thanks
much healing needed even in DU
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:45 AM
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23. Healing on DU?
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 11:51 AM by mac2
How about answers to our questions, real solutions, and doing as we asked (since 2006 election)? They ran on the issues in their elections (like Webb about the war and our soldiers but once in power did not vote against the funding or getting out). Once in power it is gone.

Hope, unity, compassion are all abstract concepts...not solutions to the problems they have dumped on us. The Congress since 2000 are responsible for most of them. Even now the top candidates won't impeach this dictator in the White House.

Hillary and Obama are part of those problems. How are they going to solve the problems and not be part of them...still?

Kennedy and Obama talk about change. Where were they all this time? We demanded change in 2006 yet they voted with this President too many times to remember.

If they can't remember what we want they should go back and look at the exit polling from 2006 elections. Americans are united on what they want for this country but our government ignores us. We don't need politicians telling us to be united, or hopeful, blah, blah, blah. Are they living in denial or just plain condescending?

Yes..America you are great. Every citizen should live in peace without fear and have hope for their children to live the same wonderful life in the future. Do you think you might send me to DC?
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Harkpark Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:12 PM
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27. So what do you suggest
Rome was not build in a day
Neither did it fall in a day

747 did not roam the sky in a day
Your frustration will still be with you tomorrow
It will be with you a week from now a month from now
But comes Nov it will change
And you got a part in what change you want

This world is not perfect and will never be perfect
It will need lots of work by everyone to keep it from breaking down
And fighting with each others is not working with each other.

So l beleive Du need to heal and work together
So you believe that you need to fight to have your candiate
Ok its still cool

:hug:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:20 PM
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29. Change in the DNC, DLC leadership at the convention
The rules of the primary have to be changed. People don't have a vote because Iowa, etc. get their choice. By the time it gets to the large liberal states the primary is mostly over. The primary should be held on the same day or near to it in every state.

We lost too many elections and the leaders are still there. They close out Progressive Democratic candidates by not supporting or funding them. There is a Progressive mood in this country (like 2006 showed us) and we should be winning.
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Harkpark Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:47 PM
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30. Agreed
But it will take time.
Stick with the issue.
Any system that has been in practise for too long can be gamed.
That is what evolution is all about.

When human apply thinking on problems we come out with solution
And the application of such thinking process work both way
Some will tried to break a system
Some with try to fix it
Let just say we all must be constantly on watch
Or lose our freedom
No I am not advocating fear here
In fact fear is always a weapon that is constantly use again the masses

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:34 PM
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34. Time? How about eight years to change the voting system
which is full of fraud and manipulation by the media. Congress does little to change it. The Democratic Party seems like they like losing.
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angel823 Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:32 AM
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20. totally
agree.

And from a long-time lurker, but not much of a poster, welcome to DU!
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Harkpark Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 10:46 AM
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22. Thanks
:hug:
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:02 AM
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12. I'm really pissed
that I didn't even get to vote for him in my state's primary. Now I'm stuck with Obama and Hillary.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:51 PM
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33. i know the feeling neither one is worth voting for
John Edwards was my only hope for America
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:42 AM
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14. Just a wee little note: he was careful to say he was "SUSPENDING" his campaign...
..and little differences like that mean big things to lawyers and politicians, and he's both.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:58 PM
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36. IMO, he extracted some assurances from them
having to do with behaving like civilized human beings - and if they stray too far back into the muck he can un-suspend, and they know he will. He gave them both a "time out." And if what he did was prevent the Dem party from self-destructing and giving the country over to the pugs for another 4 years, then he has done a service to the country, the party, and, ultimately, to those he speaks for. He needs a dem administration, whether his or someone else's, to be able to drive his agenda.


I think he acted pragmatically, seeing the best way to achieve his goals while minimizing risk.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:59 AM
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17. self delete
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 10:36 AM by TheGoldenRule
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 09:59 AM
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18. That's the question many of us are asking. Even people on the Edwards site don't have any answers.
Me, I've got my :tinfoilhat: on.

Because the powers that be would NEVER allow someone like John to win.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:54 AM
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25. As I said, they stole this election before the primary
to keep a Progressive from power. No doubt in my mind.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:11 PM
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26. My hope is that Elizabeth Edwards is OK too
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 12:15 PM by mac2
I have to wonder if Edwards and Kucinich keep running as Progressives and then give up at the wrong time (in Iowa a conservataive, rural state)? Are they Red Herrings? This is the second election for President that this has happened.

What does "suspension mean"? If you are on the ballot why not keep up the fight even if you run out of funding? We have defeated big money before. I fail to believe Edwards couldn't get his share of campaign funding from the party/government except that they fixed it that way to keep their choice of candidates.

Why does this make me wonder? Look how many Republican candidates are still running for President. They aren't down to just two yet except for the media who have picked McCain and Romney.

By "suspension" it puts Edwards out of the running. People won't vote for him because they think he's gone.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 12:55 PM
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31. The timing is interesting.
You would think that he would wait just a few more days until after Super Tuesday. Since he didn't, this means to me that he recognizes that he is unlikely to win and doesn't want to split the delegates any more than necessary. In the big picture, it's best for us to have a nominee sooner rather than later, and JE is taking one for the Team here. He said he elicited promises from the other two, so his agenda should still get well represented.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 11:49 PM
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35. One too many for the "team" is what I think
JE has taken two elections for the "team".
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:49 PM
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32. i hope Elizebeth is ok, since John Edwards dropped out
i probably will not be voting for anyone
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