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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:37 PM Original message |
I would suggest to you that representative democracy is a sham. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. A democratic constitutional republic doesn't fare too well under empire. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. It is absurd to suggest that anyone cares about you as much as you do. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Do they care if I get the red sports car I always wanted? No. Do they care that |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Why do they care about those things? They want them for themselves... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Just the US's representative democracy, or all of them? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I'm betting they mean just here... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. No, inherent in the idea of all representative government... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. If you shrink the size of your country to one in which everyone can legislate directly |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. "Representative democracy" is like FOX News being "Fair and Balanced" |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Direct democracy is unworkable in a large society. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Is it really impossible to divide power enough so that we end up with small jurisdictions? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Yes, it's really impossible. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Aren't we kind of doing that in a representative democracy? |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Not so much, no... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Nice way to play to nationalist rhetoric, Hitler. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Sorry, you lose |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Actually, I did it on purpose. I'm capable of this thing called sarcasm and humor... |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Doesn't convey well in a text-based environment |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. And the Constitution was supposed to protect against tyranny of the majority but they tore the |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I personally believe that US Americans... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. Europe has representatives. I mean how would a govt. work if everyone had to show up in a field to |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. It is impossible to bribe all of us, it is always inherently a possibility with representatives. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. SHRINK government? Now where have I heard that before? LOL! nt |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Shrink jurisdiction, in the sense of same services provided on a more local level. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I don't agree. I'm not a Federalist, as you can see. nt |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Err, what? I'd suggest that these are anti-Federalist ideas. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Huh? How are they anti-federalist? nt |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. What? You said Federalist, not federalist. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Yeah ok, use the cap. nt |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. OK, then they're anti-Federalist ideas... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. That's a trick |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Perhaps the votes might actually COUNT. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I agree that we need to remove the electoral college and the delegate crap..... |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
5. I am having some serious |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Check out kpete's thread on the NWO |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
9. what do propose to replace it? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I don't really have all the answers, but I suppose we could try to have little local governments... |
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jeanruss (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. I agree |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. It does bother them, but individually we are powerless in a mass of 300,000,000 people. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. Go for it. Good luck. You might end up with a lot of other countries deciding they wanted your |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. I've had some of the oddest replies in this thread. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:37 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. How do you have a town hall meeting in LA? or NYC? My point is that the |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. You subdivide the city into administrative districts... |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Town hall meetings are representative democracy rather than direct democracy. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
43. Here's an ad that came up with your thread: |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Can we report Bush and the Congress? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
44. then what do you suggest |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. still too many people doing too well to successfully foment a revolution... |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
48. No better system has been divised and until one is I will support it. |
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