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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:35 AM
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Why is McCain freaking out the Reaganites and Christian right?
Not that I give a rat's behind (I find it rather amusing that they are freaking out) but could someone explain to me the McCainophobia of the GOPer conservative wing? What's behind the hysteria? I would think a batshit crazy warmonger would be right up their alley.

So what gives? :shrug:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:38 AM
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1. He's not a "Jeebus" batshit crazy warmonger.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:40 AM
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3. McCain doesen't appear to be susceptible to manipulation by higher powers
which means the neocons. He'll be marching to the beat of his own drummer.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:49 PM
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30. Why did he sing 'bomb, bomb, bomb...bomb, bomb, Iran'....

in one of his speeches, in a stupid attempt to appeal to the Warmongers? It would be one thing if he wanted to hunt down and kill bin Ladin once and for all, but he also wants to move on to Iran and increase the military ranks? If this doesn't appeal to the neocons, then what is he trying to do?
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:01 PM
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31. I honestly think this is an issue he shares their passion for.
Therefore it wasn't pandering if it was his own independent opinion.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:01 AM
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7. Not a warmonger? I suggest you check out his latest ad.
He's nothing but a warmonger.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:49 AM
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20. Oh he is a warmonger -no doubt about it
But he's not a Jeebus type
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:03 AM
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10. Are you crazy;.....
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:50 AM
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21. See my above reply
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:39 AM
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2. All I can come up with - the one time opposition to W's tax cuts= heresy
for this bunch. He's been excommunicated from the Curch of St Ronnie for it
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:45 AM
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4. If 911 would have happen in Arizona, John would have worn it out
like old pants. He would have swim in 911. Like Rudy, who I might ad knows he can get a cushy job as VP. That's how it works. The Maverick is actually somewhat savvy, that is why he scares the Fundies. He pines to be our next war president, that scares the rest of the world.

The NEOs hate him because in 2004 they called his wife a whore and said he slept around...

The Maverick went fast into action, could hardly wait to get his hug with his god/leader.

"John has a very small tallywacker."

Oh wait..here he is with his god/leader.

Don't stare to long, it will make you vomit.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:02 AM
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8. Wait! I thought he was the "neos" man - 100 years in Iraq & Holly Surge
Was i wrong?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:59 AM
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16. He's like the Gozer in Ghostbusters. He's whatever works depending on the
group he's pandering to this minute.

Have you seen his latest ad? Just a hint--he's not running for president in it... :scared:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:35 PM
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23. Ghostbusters reference made my day! Missed his latest ad.
I don't get why GOP-ers would be more adverse to pandering than we are.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:02 AM
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9. Nail meet head. nt
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:47 AM
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5. Well, they mention "amnesty" a lot.
They have been trained to think of McCain as a "liberal" and to hate all liberals unquestioningly. Ergo, they hate McCain. Rush said to.

Dittos, Rush, dittos! Mega-dittos, Rush!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 07:55 AM
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6. Two words: McCain/Feingold.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 07:59 AM by girl gone mad
As best as I can tell, the recent ferocious RW attack against McCain is rooted in his promotion of this bill. All the usual moneyed suspects were involved in the smear campaign that went on against him. They hated the idea of their right to buy and sell politicians being infringed upon in even the smallest manner. They went all out convincing their idiot minions that McCain was violating the free speech of working class conservatives and Republicans would be hurt the most by this new law, since dirty libruls control the media, etc.

Of course, long before this, McCain was hated by swiftboat types for working with Kerry to restore relations with Vietnam. And then, there's his attacks on pork and government waste, which Republicans pretend to hate, but are secretly addicted to.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:04 AM
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11. I think you're on to something there. I remember a recall campaign being considered
except his state laws didn't have it on the books.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:12 AM
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12. Gigadittoes, Girl Gone to Head of Class
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 08:40 AM by SpiralHawk
What you said.

I also have come to feel that the Chickenhawk Homelander Wing of the Hard Right hates McCain because he is an honorable Veteran, and thus an embarasment to them.

Famously, the republicon homelanders' 'leadership' is a pack of specious, draft-dodging chickenhawks: Cheney, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, Gingrich, Lott, etc. etc. -- and of course at the top of the heap, Commander AWOL Bush himself. The very existence on the national stage of a veteran who made a great sacrifice for America - McCain - causes the hearts of republicon homelander chickenhawks to shrivel in shame, nevermind what McCain's policies might be.

That's my theory, and I'm stickin' to it until the republicon homelanders, and their occult cabals, begin showing respect to our sons and daughters in uniform, and our veterans* who actually served with honor and who actually have direct insight on what war really means to human beings and the to earth we all depend upon for food, water, and shelter.

News for Chicenkhawk Bill O'Reilly: Stop collecting your wheelbarrows of RW propaganda payola, and stop lying about America's Homeless Veterans.

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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:20 AM
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13. reganites, xian right....
so much of gopig politics is shown tell; for the yokels, and the REAL scheming can only be discerned by putting a blowtorch to michael ledeen's arss (lol) and interpreting his howls- but the truth gonna have to wait. One thing for sure: the pig has stolen as much as the golden goose allows, and the pig worried something might reveal the pig's criminality...it's in this context the fakery about the '08 election is being earnestly spewed by spewers of earnest nonsense, aka the pigmedia whores, or the 'ass peddlar' press, let's honour them. So! Your question should be: 'why is the pigmedia/app implying that mccain is freaking out the reganites/xian goofball team?'
answer? the scorpion stung the frog to death in middle of river in effect killing himself too cuz it's his only skill, his one and only facility, and he's so utterly stupid he thinks dying is just going to heaven with those 72 purty teenaged boys (mr pig is quite hopelessly confused about virgins and pieces o silver etc- it's his nature, his charm)
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:43 AM
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14. He isn't pure enought for the wacko-wing of the party
He dares to work with opposing parties. It's not what the crazies on the extreme right want.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 08:50 AM
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15. IHT: Republican Says Bush Panders To the 'Agents of Intolerance' : McCain Takes Aim At Religious Rig
Republican Says Bush Panders To the 'Agents of Intolerance'
McCain Takes Aim At Religious Right

By Brian Knowlton
International Herald-Tribune

Published: TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 29, 2000

WASHINGTON: Senator John McCain, in a provocative and politically risky speech, sharply criticized leaders of the religious right on Monday as "agents of intolerance" allied to his rival, Governor George W. Bush, and denounced what he said were the tactics of "division and slander."

Specifically, Mr. McCain singled out the evangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as "corrupting influences on religion and politics" and said parts of the religious right were divisive and even un-American.

By launching the unsparing attack from Virginia — a stronghold of the religious right — the Arizona senator effectively ceded any chance of finding serious support from within a major Republican constituency.

But he evidently hoped to sharpen his appeal to independents and Democrats — and to large Roman Catholic populations in states like New York and California about to hold presidential primaries — while trying to link Mr. Bush in voters' minds to some of the more controversial elements of the religious right.

"I am a Reagan Republican who will defeat Al Gore," Mr. McCain said, referring to the vice president and most likely Democratic candidate. "Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore."

More: http://www.iht.com/articles/2000/02/29/bush.2.t_9.php

+ immigration reform w/ Kennedy

+ Campaign finance reform w/ Feingold

+ nearly becoming a Dem after SC in 2000 (according to Daschle)

+ daring to challenge Bush in 2000

+ not beholden to the fundy wing
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:32 AM
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17. Most repubs consider McCain to be left of Hillary.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:42 PM
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26. I've seem Coulter's DU-like statement - but still not sure what's so "left" about him
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 09:40 AM
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18. He's Not Racist and Sexist Enough
THe one thing that binds the GOOP together...hate. Be it for blacks, hispanics, women, gays and all others who aren't male and white, the GOOP has no tolerance for anyone who panders to these people or appears to be.

Some of the McCain haters are twisted by his flip-flop on the tax cuts for the rich...another form of elitism and a perk to the GOOP base. Then he voted against taking 12 million Hispanics and putting them in railway cars and shipping them across the border. How dare him to not go kissing up to the Minutemen...especially since he's from Arizona. And, of course, there's the underpinnings that he's not a "true believer" in preventing women from controling their bodies, wanting all gays to burn in hell, blacks put back on plantations and screetching how this is a "Christian Nation". In short...he didn't pander enough.

The fun is watching the wingnuts heads explode as they live out their worst nightmares. No Rudeee, No Fred, No Dunkin' Donuts even. For those who think the choice of Democratic candidates suck, imagine the "fun" it is to be a batshit crazy GOOPer this year.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:38 PM
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24. I have trouble believing that. I have trouble believing any good thing about any
one of them actually.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:41 PM
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25. "I hate all gooks" McCain?
Yes, definitely not racist enough.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:43 PM
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28. EXACTLY! WHERE DO they come up with these imaginary virtues?
I see him as bad as any of them :shrug:
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DiamondJay Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:03 AM
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19. because he is the rockefeller republican reagan railed against
he believes in fiscal responsibility, and doesn't violate separation between church and state.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:54 AM
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22. The big money wants Romney, aka GWB v. 2.0.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 10:55 AM by Marr
The billionaire wing of the GOP owns the media machinery, and they want 4-8 more years of Bush-style looting of the public coffers. Romney would deliver that. McCain might as well, but he's not a sure thing.

Don't worry- if McCain gets the nomination, the entire wight wing media establishment will do a 180 overnight and praise him as the second coming of Jesus.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:45 PM
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29. Seems to me, Mitt had an even worse vibe with the party - and agree, they'll
all fall in line - after all, W wasn't much more popular either this time in 2000.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 05:42 PM
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27. They know they can't push him around like they did Bush
by they I mean corporate america which includes war mongers.

Romney will do their bidding.

McCain might say no.

The GOP is no longer a political party, it is a "movement" with a loyalty oath.

McCain won't take the oath.

So, they excommunicated him.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:12 PM
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32. Because he believes in evolution? nt
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