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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:06 PM
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How to pay for health care:
Repeal the tax cuts for the rich and use that money. The cost of the tax break for the rich to the nation will be 2.3 trillion by 2017. That should be enough. No?
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:07 PM
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1. end the war and put HALF of that money into "promoting the general welfare"
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

I dont see "War for profit" in the Preamble to the Constitution.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:09 PM
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4. Amen. I read that the war costs over $150 billion
The amount of the "stimulus" package.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:09 PM
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2. Repeal. Raise top marginal rate. Uncap FICA.
Money will pour into Federal coffers.
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:09 PM
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3. Legalize Marijuana and tax the hell outta it!!
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:11 PM
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6. Another good idea. But let folks grow X amount for themselves.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:10 PM
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5. That should be almost enough to to pay for bu$h's war so far.
Edited on Sun Feb-03-08 12:11 PM by RC
Also we need to get the insurance companies out of the Health Care business. Health care and health insurance has to be made non profit.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:14 PM
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7. How to pay for health care:
Cut the profit out of the system. HR 676.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:24 PM
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8. Single payer pays for itself.
Extending medicare to everyone, including a reformed and reasonable perscription plan, and adding in a standard long term care plan, can be funded through income/payroll taxes with employers and employees splitting the cost. The huge savings in administrative costs from cutting out the useless healthinsurance for profit middleman, plus ending the nonsense of responsible corporations subsidizing the system to the benefit of free riders who contribute nothing, plus the savings derived from getting all the folks currently using the emergency room for last resort treatment into normal medical care will basically fund the system without much if any change in the total cost of healthcare services while vastly increasing the scope of coverage and extending coverage to everyone.

It is the dirty little secret of this whole issue.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:28 PM
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9. How am I going to pay for health care next month?
COBRA will be $360 and meds after that will be $138. $498 and I'm not even sick- that's just maintenance drugs and insurance. Every time I change jobs the coverage is worse.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:44 PM
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11. cobra can be activated retroactively, usually for at least 90 days.
my wife lost her job in november, and she starts a new job tomorrow- with health bennies that start immediately. she never got sick in that time period, so there was never any reason to activate the cobra. BUT- if something had happened where she needed medical care, she could have activated the cobra after the fact, and still be covered.

so- unless you have an immediate need for it, don't activate it until you have to, and it can save you money.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:46 PM
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12. But I need those meds every month
and unless the COBRA is paid for I will have to pay full price out of pocket for those meds, which would be well over $600. There is no way around it except to go off my meds.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 12:38 PM
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10. dennis had the best plan to fund the universal healthcare
and even bail out the insurance companies...best plan i have ever read
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