Philosoraptor
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Mon Feb-04-08 05:45 AM
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Is the repub party dead? Or does it just smell that way? |
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Look at who the repubs have for candidates, gone are duncan hunter, and fred thompson, both certified insane, now we have huckabee, mc cain and romney, all re-animated corpses in dark suits with matching red ties.
There are actually optimists running around saying the repubs have no chance of winning the white house this time. So when did the repub party die exactly? Was it around mark foley time? At what point did they pass away? Shouldn't someone tell them?
Or do they simply appear to be dead in the water? Will they, like in many a cheap horror film, suddenly sit up from their presumed demise only to strangle you even more before they finally croak?
Americans do seem to be fed up in general with the repubs and their bullshit finally, which is encouraging, but let us never let down our guard against these assholes, nothing is more dangerous than a cornered, wounded and rabid animal.
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:21 AM
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1. Recent polls show that one-third are still pleased |
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with Bush and his policies.
Makes me wonder?
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:22 AM
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2. You are absolutely right about that one. |
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I don't want us to be so focused on fighting each other over Clinton vs. Obama that we forget who we need to defeat. McCain is a threat against either of our candidates and we should not forget that.
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Perry Logan
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:26 AM
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3. Katrina broke the back of the Republican Party. |
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:32 AM
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4. We have some time to chat |
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please explain your comments about Katrina.
Thanks.
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Perry Logan
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:47 AM
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7. It seems like the scales fell from everyone's eyes after Katrina. |
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Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 06:48 AM by Perry Logan
It's my impression that the tide turned for the Repubs when the administration screwed up with Katrina. Up until then, the press had been covering for them. I think it's been downhill for them ever since, thank goodness.
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Mon Feb-04-08 08:01 AM
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I had a college professor who once proclaimed the Republic Party dead. Their veep had resigned under a cloud of scandal, Watergate had revealed their criminal behavior with complicity at the very highest levels, the media was most definitely NOT on their side, a Democratic candidate had just won handily, and by all indications, the GOP should have slunk away in shame. That was in 1977 or '78.
Instead, within only a couple of years, they came ROARING back with two landslide elections, three consecutive presidential terms (and many believe that Bush I would have been re-elected if not for Ross Perot--remember, BC won with only 43% of the popular vote,) and eventually took both houses of Congress and held them for twelve years.
Never, never underestimate the resiliancy of the Republic Party.
As for Katrina, never OVERestimate the attention span of the American public.
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:39 AM
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5. Just smells that way. Like a virus, it'll recalibrate and return repackaged via MSM |
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Sadly, many will buy it.
In other words, that degree of wealth/power doesn't just 'go away.'
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:26 AM
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Reagan/Bush were just horrible, but 15 years later, Reagan has been redefined as a GREAT president, while they took a very solid presidency with Clinton and turned into a "scandal ridden presidency" and somehow the strong economic period that existed was defined as a "mirage" and a president who actually brought the perpetrators of a domestic terror attack to justice was painted as weak on terro and national defense ...
The Rs are innately driven toward demogogary (sp) and are by far the squeekiest wheel ...
As soon as a D gets in (god willing) and starts to clean up the mess, they will find SOME outrage to start reverberating through their sound machine, and as noted, with the MSM in tow ... Over time it will wear down the sheeple, and Bushco and 2000-2006 will simply be redefined as a period when a "president faced challenges never seen in our country's history" ...
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:44 AM
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6. The media has the Democratic candidates focused on each other |
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While the republicon candidates are focused on the Democrats and thus will have an edge on the race post conventions. They will have watched the Democratic candidates hit each other and tear each other apart and will just take notes to use later.
Yeah, the Democratic candidates could stand to hit at the republicon failures more often and less often on each other.
As far as that smell, that is the stench of those failures from the bu$h doctrine.
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:57 AM
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9. Many of those calculated "failures" were likewise applicable to Reagan/Bush's regime |
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And just look what happened: Problem/Reaction/Solution, and the sucker citizenry bought it all again ... that convenient exploitation of the people's tendency to forget.
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:20 AM
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Mon Feb-04-08 06:50 AM
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8. The Repub party is just fine, don't worry about them |
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I don't think November is a "walk in the park" for Dems. Repubs will run an effective campaign and the end result will be pretty close. We can't take this win for granted. How 'bout them NE Pats?
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:46 AM
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12. I remember this same conversation after Nixon resigned... |
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it wasn't true then, it ain't true now. They're like Night of the Living Dead.
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Echo In Light
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Mon Feb-04-08 07:55 AM
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13. ...a discomforting comparison, indeed |
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Mon Feb-04-08 08:13 AM
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15. The Mighty Wurlitzer Is Misfiring |
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Repugnicans dead? Hardly...and Democrats believe that at their peril. That was the problem we had about 30 years ago in the wake of Watergate...many of us thought the GOOP had marginalized itself into oblivion...then came Raygun.
What is most enjoyable about the GOOP primary is the total repudiation of hate radio by the "base". Rushbo, Hannity and the others have seen their candiates totally dismissed by the GOOP and now they're taking out their anger on their own. Schadenfraude doesn't come any better.
Americans...the ones who I've canvassed want change...they're not only fed up with the status quo but with all the old chestnuts that the boooosh regime all but blew away. "Conservatives" I see feel their inept party has strayed from being the party of fiscal responsibility...moderates are tired of the fundies and the flying monkeys...and the past decade of greed, arrogance and ignorance is catching up with the national party. Are they down now? Yep...but will they stay that way? Hardly.
We see how short-sighted people can be...but how memes when drummed in long enough and loud enough are hard to shake. It's our time to create some for the Repugnicans...how they "Lost" Iraq and the "War on Terror"...the defecits an their lack of fiscal responsibility and their racism and xenophobia. While people may not forget boooosh, they soon forget who his enablers are...are job is not to let them forget.
Cheers...
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