I am more scared today than I was as a young kid during the Cuban Missile Crises of '61

[madokie]

four communications cables does not accidentally get severed or damaged in this short of a time period on chance alone.

[Dogmudgeon]

1. You caught that, too?

And it's not making me feel any better.

--p!

[wake.up.america]

3. Which cables? Okay -I'm up to date. Middle East

[rubberducky]

2. This should be HUGE news, but we have silence.

Wonder why??

[negativenihil]

4. ?!?

a 4th has broken?! not good...

[Yael]

21. The third was off Dubai, the fourth off Sri Lanka

[iconoclastic cat]

5. Why would that be done? What the hell could be going on?

I'm not casting asparagus upon your fears, but could you elaborate?

[Windy]

6. Cube rats need info. What is going on? n/t

[Submariner]

7. Well, if by chance a SEAL Team just happened to be swimming by n/t

[Richard D]

8. check here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3167788

[nightrider767]

9. It is scary...

Think about it. WHy do it? Cutting cables might delay the opening of the new Iranian oil market. But it would be short lived at best.

Seems like a bit of a waste. Too much down side, with little up side.

Unless more was planned.....

[madokie]

14. A lot of knowledge can be gleamed for nefarious persons in seeing what the worlds reaction

would be alone and not just the benifits of slowing the Iranians down for a few days of which would give the cabal some time to figure out something else. I also think it very possible this cable cutting was brought into the picture because of the bombing of Iran we so far have, I think, barely avoided.
:tinfoilhat::scared:

[Divernan]

10. Have any reports discussed the depths at which these cables were severed?

Because once they are some distance offshore, the depths quickly go quite deep, ie, thousands of feet, and far beyond the reach of anyone diving from a surface vessel. It would require very expensive, very sophisticated deep ocean remote explorers such as reached the Titanic. Some posters speculate about scuba divers, i.e, anyone with a tank and a sharp knife. It would take some kind of underwater explosive to sever such cables. Recreational divers are limited to 130 feet depths; commercial divers to several hundred feet with multiple tanks staged along the way, and long decompression stops. You couldn't detonate an explosive until even commercial divers were out of the water, which means keeping a surface ship in place for several hours - could be detected by satellites. However it was done, what other logical explanation is there for four cables severed close in time than a deliberate and elaborate coordinated effort? The ability to do this could pay off bigtime for blackmailers. Worse case scenario is terrorism. Worst case is blackmailers raising funds for terrorism.

[Marie26]

51. More info here

Arabian Business wrote an article about the various "conspiracy theories" floating around this incident:

"Flag plays down net blackout conspiracy theories"

Flag Telecom on Monday played down conspiracy theories over the recent damage to undersea cables that has seriously disrupted internet and international telecoms services across the region. ...

Those theories were fuelled further on Monday when Egypt said damage to the cables in the Mediterranean Sea was not caused by ships, as previously thought. Egypt's Transport Ministry said footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables shows no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.

It is not clear how badly Iran's internet access has been affected by the cable breaks. The Iranian embassy in Abu Dhabi told ArabianBusiness.com that "everything is fine", but internet connectivity reports on the web, citing a router in Tehran, appear to indicate that there is currently no connection to the outside world.

No one at the US embassy in Abu Dhabi was immediately available to comment.

A spokesperson for Flag said the cause of the breaks will not be known until repair ships reach the site of the damage. The spokesperson admitted it did seem like a bit of a coincidence that all four were damaged within such a short space of time, but said it would be difficult to find the exact location of the cables.

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/510232-flag-plays-down-net-blackout-conspiracy-theories?ln=en


OK, so Egypt confirms that no ships were in the area when the cable was cut & that no ships are allowed to sail in that area at all. That seems to end any possibility that this could be a maritime accident. Could it have been a submarine? That wouldn't show up on videotape. The most troubling part is the report that Iran is now totally cut off from the outside world - that seems to support the theory that this was some kind of deliberate sabatoge against Iran.

[halobeam]

11. There have been a couple of threads on this

they mostly go down the tubes into a tinfoil-er vs reality marathon.

Not enough people who have access to better info on the threads yet. Hopefully this thread will be found by someone who can either get enough reliable info to either this put this to rest or crank it up to the next level. Which ever gets to root of this.

some say it happens more than you think, and others say it isn't possible to be coincidence anymore. It's more or less based on theory. There were one or two people who provided info that showed an anchor could do this, but I guess it wasn't enough info to ease people's minds.

I'm curious as the next guy. I'd like to find out more info before I think it amounts to anything.

[Divernan]

13. Anchors aren't used at very great depths. That's why I asked for

info for depths at which the breaks occurred. If you google the topic, you'll see that the Brits were able to repair a cable at a depth of 1500 meters, i.e., approx. 4500 feet, but some cables are deeper than this as they cross the ocean floor.

[Virginia Dare]

12. IF we are involved in this..

and it seems too widespread to be a coincidence, it will come back to bite us on the ass HARD.

[madokie]

15. I just hope we survive this cabal with our lives and some of our freedoms

more and more it looks like we may not do either.

[Virginia Dare]

17. I know, I've got my fingers crossed..

that this delusional drunk the evil dark lord in the white house don't cause us all to be blown to kingdom come in the next 10 months. We've made it this far, which is pretty surprising. I'm almost too scared to get my hopes up too much.

[bdamomma]

44. along with the many other illegal things will come back and bite us hard.

[TahitiNut]

16. Well, during the Cuban Missile Crisis I was in uniform, at morning mess, watching the nuclear subs

... go to sea. It'd take a LOT for me to feel greater misgivings than I had that October morning. The fourth cable outage is attributed to a power supply problem, not a break. Nonetheless, one would have to be a dedicated Coincidence Theorist to not see some intent at play ... not to mention opportunism.

[madokie]

19. I was a very impressionable 13 having being raised in a hell fire and brimstone atmosphere

I was terrified, scarred for life by that episode. Today we have a cabal well on its way to completing its Coup that the odds are very high that they will not remain free if they walk away now so they are driven to complete the circle. It's, if not, then almost a must for them to grab total and complete power. I see and I'm worried

[unc70]

45. And I a 14 YO watching the fighter jets head south to FL.

They emptied all the "local" fighters jets and shipped out all the Marines they could. Scared me as much as was still possible. I had already determined that there were now too many nukes to be able to "hide" anywhere. I had started years earlier by studying the likely radiation dispersion patterns based on prevailing winds at various altitutdes assuming likely targets. By 1962, I had abandoned any hope of being missed by any attack. Unlike my ex, I hadn't been issued dog tags in elementary school so they could identify the charred remains.

The cable cuts seem suspicious. I will check around my sources to see if I can find any clues to what might be happening.

It could be just chance. I know there have been several failures in the last couple of years in the cables connecting PK and IN to the middle east. Those appeared to have been "routine" failures, although they were very disruptive, particularly to PK.

[americanstranger]

48. I rmember getting handouts at school (3rd grade)...

...instructing my family on what to do in the event of a nuclear attack.

I remember reading it on the bus home from school and being scared as hell.

- as

[kineneb]

37. I was only 3, but can remember people afraid, and mentioning Cuba

heck of a way to start your childhood- Cuban missile crisis, Berlin Wall, JFK assassination...

Call me jaded, but nothing surprises me any more. I just figure it is more black ops by us or our "friends".

[Lydia Leftcoast]

53. I was a junior high school kid, having nightmares

bombs falling in my backyard.

[lonestarnot]

18. Iran launching some missile today or was that yesterday?

http://www.yahoo.com/s/799517

[Yael]

20. 4 cables, 3 days, in 2 bodies of water, with Iran completely cut off

I'm not buying it either.

[madokie]

22. I think I read that Saudi Arabia and Israel have some communications left

but they are cabal powered so we can't count on them to help to get any info out. I worry for the Iranian's right now

[Yael]

25. Israel uses cabling through Europe -- it is a different infrastructure setup

[onenote]

56. what you shouldn't buy is the claim that iran is completely cut off -- its not accurate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2815976&mesg_id=2815976

[zorahopkins]

23. I've Stocked Up On Batteries and Bottled Water

I'm very frightened, too.

I've stocked up on batteries, bottled water, canned food, and can openers.

These are very frightening times.

Say "I love you" to those you love.

[Dawggie]

24. I was in Florida when that happened....

And I'm not as frightened as I was then.

But I sure understand your concerns.

[Dogmudgeon]

26. A few WAGs (Wild-Assed Guesses)

1. Deliberate sabotage, reason unknown.

2. Rapid change of seawater temperature causing critical thermal stress.

3. Shift of tectonic plates, too slow to register as earthquakes, but fast enough to produce critical mechanical stress.

4. Mis-calibration of one or more GPS units, leading to improper maintenance on the cables in the area.

5. Plain old chance.

6. The aliens need tubing for their anal probes.

Now we have some speculations for discussion. Do not consider them to be complete, and especially do not consider them to be correct.

Ideas?

--p!

[TrogL]

41. The Great Old Ones are rising from the sea

(think Cloverfield)

[FreepFryer]

27. "The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is Fear Itself!" -- FDR. Don't trade your outrage for fear. (n/t)

:)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Sounds paranoid.

[Donk Yore]

29. One must learn how not to give a damn

the Tao way

[sarcasmo]

30. Israel pre strike movement, IMHO of course.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. They don't have the assets, but we do

[sarcasmo]

34. We won't strike first, but Israel will and I wouldn't doubt we had a hand in cutting the cables.

Israel will strike and it will happen before the next election.

[nadinbrzezinski]

39. At this point, we will

[jhain]

42. you get my bet

and I am just as nervous.

Bad news.

[Marie26]

52. Just hypothetically...

if that were the case, the strike would have to happen pretty soon, wouldn't it? The news report said that repair crews will go out on Wed. & that the cables will be fixed within 10-15 days. Why would they want to cut internet cables before a strike?

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. Ok folks this is a PATTERN

[Echo In Light]

33. The corporate fascists running the show have certainly given us plenty to be wary of

[gateley]

35. Three were cut, one was a power surge/outage. The cut ones are worrisome. nt

[gateley]

36. Here's what they're saying on arabianbusiness.com:

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/510132-internet-problems-continue-with-fourth-cable-break?ln=en

[onenote]

38. Do you think the risk of the US being hit with a nuclear attack is greater now?

What exactly was your fear as a child? Mine, living outside DC, was that we seemed to be on the brink of a nuclear exchange between Russia and the US. As a child, forced to do duck and cover drills, I had no way to assess how real this threat was -- it was real enough to be very scary.

Today, a bunch of damaged communications cables is a matter of interest and some concern. But fear for my pesonal safety? Not really.

[madokie]

40. my fear is that dumbya will use a nuclear bomb on the Iranian Nuke sites

anyways If and or when that happens I see all bets of china and russia staying out of the fray will be off the table. Both countries seem to be on edge when it comes to the bush/cheney wars of aggression, they've both in the past have sent some pretty strong messages to the whitehouse concerning their, what they see as, overreach. The big dick is crazy and out of touch with reality so as to be, I think, capable of doing anthing to stay in power and to further his cause. the dark one has been at this for 40 some odd years now and I don't see him turning and walking away.

[OneBlueSky]

43. submarines with hi tech cowcatchers, perhaps? . . . n/t

.

[Trailrider1951]

46. Um, the CMC was in late October of 1962

just a month before my 11th birthday. I remember wondering if I would live to see it.
:scared: :nuke:

[yurbud]

47. we are depending on Russia, China, and even IRAN behaving more responsibly than Bushies

to prevent a world war.

[krkaufman]

49. How about this...? The US cut into the cables in order to add spying taps.

The outage was either accidental during the operation, or maybe one of the operatives intentionally cut the signals in order to make public what we're doing.

(TOTAL wild-a**sed speculation)

[malaise]

50. The silence on this subject on M$M is

even more troubling.

[onenote]

57. maybe because a lot of what's been "reported" on the Internet is hyperbole

such as the claim that Iran has been completely cut off.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2815976&mesg_id=2815976


And i've seen several articles about this in the Washington Post and on cnn.com, fwiw.

[blues90]

54. I don't know what to think about this >

I was 14 during the cuban missile crisis and it was a very scary time for a teen .

At that time htere was at least confidence that we had a president that wanted to avoid war rather than one who seeks it . That's the scary part if these cable cuts are related .

Who the hell knows what's going on these days , most all the attention are on the elections and that does make this cable cutting troubling since people are distracted . I could be said they waited until this time which makes it a coincidence or deliberate .

The most troubling thing is this Iran attack seems to keep coming up for different reasons . I can't say if there is anything to any of it but it does make me a bit concerned .

[RamboLiberal]

55. No way is this more scary than the Cuban Missile Crisis

I was a kid during the '62 Missile Crisis and that was a helluva lot more scarey. In that case REAL NUKES could've rained down on my head.

I'm following this thing with the internet cables but in no way do I feel it is any threat to me personally or will it cost me my life or the lives of my loved ones.