A $410B budget deficit is outrageous, whoever wins needs to cut about 2 trillion out of the budget

[RB TexLa]

Straight across the board, nothing spared. We can't afford it, if some people have to go sick they go sick, if we are attacked then we are attacked. Better to be bombed than this crazy shit.

[DaveJ]

1. Does that deficit even include $500B+ 'emergency' funding?

[TahitiNut]

13. Nope. Iraq/Afghanistan still aren't in the budget.

:grr:

[fascisthunter]

2. That's Part of What Some Wanted

especially Grover Norquist. Spend until America is so far in debt that we as a country need to cut back on spending. Now the question is what to cut?

[DaveJ]

5. This is what I think...

Cons want to put the government so far into debt that Democrats can't accomplish anything significant when they get elected. This is exactly why there should be a movement to get rid of their party entirely. They openly want to destroy government (the U.S. one at least), and therefore have no place in it.

[fascisthunter]

6. I've Mumbled the Same Damn Thing before

This Republican Party is placing America in serious danger regardless of what BS their professionals liars say. This isn't theatre, this our lives they are messing with!

[Deja Q]

10. We are not people, we are costs and liabilities on their balance sheets.

When the "freepers" say the polar opposite of us...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1964844/posts

If the Republicans go left, we are heading toward a one-party state.

With a huge bureaucracy to back it up, insinuated into every aspect of our lives.

I thought the Dem party was moving to the right? I had no idea the Repubs were moving left...

We’re long overdue for a revolution.

Wow. Lots of Dems love to talk about insurrection too. :wow:

What a shitter.


Wait, it is okay to look at what other folks are sayin', right? If not, I apologize and will write on the chalkboard 100 times "It is wrong to read others' POVs."

[fascisthunter]

15. If You Disagree with What I say,,, just say it

and explain to me why.

[RB TexLa]

7. With a 3.1 trillion budget and 410B of debt not counting all the war cost

I think they have succeed

[DemGa]

12. Yes, conservatives have called it "starve the beast"

Intentional debt/deficits to kill off social programs.

[sabbat hunter]

3. cutting 2 trillion

would cut 2/3rds of the budget. Basically wipe out any entitlements, defense, education and you might meet your goal to cut 2 trillion.

[RB TexLa]

4. Yes

[sabbat hunter]

17. so you dont mind

eliminating welfare, medicaid?

[RB TexLa]

22. Yes I do mind, the 2 trillion was ranting a little too far. That kind of debt is so stupid

and it will be hard to repair the damage from it.

[Deja Q]

8. Hmmm - in theory, these would not hurt:

* Goverment subsidy to large, well-off corporations
* Aid to the foreign governments that don't need it
* Programs with 0 return
* Smarter military spending (e.g. no $40,000 toilets)
* Cut social programs (read on and save the emotional flapdoodle)

As Shell executives and other people want government to tell them what to go do:

* Corporations need to invest in America's infrastructure - do not leave anything to government; they cannot afford it.
* Stop the "money for nothing" mindset; from people with credit cards to executives who'll do anything for a cheap thrill.
* Re-think offshoring. Not end it. Re-think it. If everything is going away from here, that helps nobody in the end. Other markets are being hurt just as badly; or at least that's what the media is saying.
* We, the American people, need to do more on our parts as well. So we too must ask, "What can we do?"

Assuming everything isn't being gutted because of a few tinfoil hat opinions one could think regarding peak oil...

[Lars39]

9. We need the social programs....stop the war and cut the damned DOD budget

[Deja Q]

11. If corporations had jobs, even entry level ones people could GROW from,

we wouldn't need government at all.

Sadly, the corporations didn't get the memo from the "Just Plain Obvious" department yet... :( Kinda hard to move up when they want you pigeonholed until a point they can get rid of you because you had one injury...

[tkmorris]

14. There is another alternative you know

Raise taxes. Selectively of course, but they DO need to be raised.

[fascisthunter]

16. and/or Repeal Tax Breaks for the Rich (nt)

[blogslut]

18. Exactly the totally of the tax cuts!

Repeal em!

[RB TexLa]

19. 2 trillion in tax cuts?

[blogslut]

21. I'm looking for a link

House Budget Committee chair Spratt answered some questions from the press today after the Democratic statement on Bush's budget. One of the reporters asked if he would repeal the tax cuts. He didn't say he would but he mentioned that the tax cuts added up to approximately 2 trillion. Maybe I misheard him. I'll let you know when I find the transcript.

correction - Spratt. Not Pratt

[Rex]

20. They are pushing a 500 billion rebate system to payback debts

from the Reagan era. That will have to be paid back, probably next year. Just when a Dem takes office. Sounds like bad planning. Money means nothing to warmongers, just something to gain.

[Dukkha]

23. I wonder what could be draining our budget so fast?

http://www.nationalpriorities.org/costofwar_home

$275 million per day
$4,100 per household