Hate the sin, love the sinner

[riderinthestorm]

Heard it today on NPR with Dick Gordon on "The Story" and I fucking HATE that euphemism!!!!

A religious whackjob railing about gays and Dick Gordon just lets it all go by without challenging him on his blatent and disgusting bigotry towards gays. That phrase doesn't even make sense! It's impossible to reconcile - "hate their sexuality, but love the gay man" makes about as much sense as saying "hate the black skin, but love the black man" It's bigoted bullshit.

What. The. Fuck.

Why can't the media (in this case Dick Gordon) challenge people who are so obviously, heinously wrong? I know, I know, it's not just gay issues, it's so many other areas but you would think that bigotry would really jangle NPR's alarm bells. Apparently not. This kind of medieval mindset persists even in arenas that purport to be so enlightened.

:puke: :puke:

[El Pinko]

1. I don't agree with that mindset per se, however...

...Part of freedom of religion is that people have the right to religious beliefs that say consumption of alcohol, or gay sex, or gambling are wrong, even though those activities are all legal.

They don't have the right to discriminate in the workplace or harrass people they disapprove of, but personally, I'm glad that they have the right to observe their religion as they see fit.

Hopefully with time and more understanding, a lot of them will eventually evolve beyond such bass-ackwards beliefs, and as annoying as "Hate the sin, love the sinner" is, the fact is that there

are people with much more virulent beliefs than that around. (Michael Savage, for example)

How would you suggest that media challenge these people? By saying "Hey, your interpretation of the scriptures is wrong. 'Thou shalt not lay with another man' means something else entirely."

I suppose you could do that, but being an atheist myself, I'm not all that confident of my knowledge of biblical scripture, and don't make it my business to tell people what they should and shouldn't believe when it comes to religion.

But their rights end where others' begin, and just as we don't have the right to tell them what to believe, they don't have the right to discriminate against LGBT people, or any other minority group.

The same thing goes for gay marriage. I don't think the churches should be able to prevent same-sex couples from marrying at city hall, but the state shouldn't be able to force churches to sanction gay marriages if that goes against their beliefs.

I don't know if this comment makes any sense, but there it is.

[Bluenorthwest]

2. The last acceptable prejudice

And this sort of religious double speak must be called out whenever it is used. I think I'm going to start an ex-Pentacostal Movement and start casting these demons of bigotry out of our society.

[SoCalDem]

3. IGNORE the sin (unless it's yours) or you are a priest giving absolution

OTHER PEOPLE'S SINS ARE NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS... AND MOST STRANGERS ARE NOT ASKING FOR YOUR "LOVE"..

This is what I loathe about the republican party...more than anything else..