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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:26 PM
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White House Writes Pre-Emptive Signing Statement on Exclusivity
Feingold:

"The DNI envisions a government where, if it were technologically feasible, would listen in on every, every international phone call made by its citizens. And read every, every international email. Now that's a police state, Mr. President, not the United States of America."


The letter from Mukasey and McConnell to Congressional leaders is basically a laundry list of FISA amendments with the Administration's opinion on those amendments. Here's the quick summary.

Amendments that would merit a veto:

* no communication collected if the govt knows beforehand that it is to or from a person believed to be in the US
* 3913: Significant Purpose test
* 3912: Specific Individual Target test
* 3915: Limits disseminating foreign intelligence information
* 3907: Straight immunity
* 3927: Substitution of govt for defendants
* 3919: FISC review on immunity

Amendments it doesn't like but that wouldn't merit a veto:

* 3930: 4-year sunset
* 3920: Court review of compliance with minimization

Amendments it very much likes (surprise! They're both Bond amendments)

* 3941: Expedited FISA review
* 3938: Add language on WMD

A pre-emptive signing statement on exclusivity

We understand that the amendment relating to the exclusive means provision in S.2248 is undergoing additional revision. As a result, we are withholding comment on this amendment and its text at this time. We note, however, that we support the provision currently contained in S. 2248 and to support its modification, we would have to conclude that the amendment provides for sufficient flexibility to permit the President to protect the Nation adequately in times of national emergency.


More here:
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/02/05/white-house-writes-pre-emptive-signing-statement-on-exclusivity/
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:28 PM
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1. it's WORSE than a crime that the dems allow bush to get away with this nt
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:33 PM
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4. Yes, it is getting bad and they are grabbing even more power
to protect themselves against war crimes and criminal charges.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:29 PM
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2. Fuck Mukasey and Fuck Schumer for supporting the lying
bastard.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:03 PM
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11. I agree Maddie. How can we help get Schumer unelected? nm
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:40 PM
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13. We need to find a way don't we? There will be many that
say but look at all of the other good things he did for the Democratic party - this is exactly why we are having the problems we are having.

Schumer made a deal with Mukasey and got stabbed in the back and if I were a betting person I bet Schumer's response was "I didn't expect that to happen, Mukasey promised"!!

My 10 year old nephew has the sense enough to figure out if someone or something (Republican Party) lies to you and stabs you in the back then never, ever trust them again. Not so for our Democratic Representatives at least the ones who have the power.

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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:22 PM
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14. Rule of thumb, don't ever trust a republican. nm
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:32 PM
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3. shakes head
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:35 PM
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5. And 90% of DU will not read this or nominate it
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:36 PM
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6. I can't recommend it again :)
but if I could....

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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:39 PM
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7. They should bundle it all up as a bill and pass it back...
Write all of their objections as clauses in the bill.

Sign that asshole!
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:43 PM
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8.  Can't we take their pens away or at least fill them with
Invisible ink ?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:51 PM
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9. Disappearing ink is what this situation calls for.
Then all the damage could be undone in a matter of minutes. :(
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:56 PM
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10. K&R thanks n/t
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:04 PM
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12. k & r. nm
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 11:27 PM
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15. Grrrecommended
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:15 AM
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16. I was cut off the internet after I wrote this
Only now, I can get back on the web.

Coincidence? Of course it is.
No wonder I'm being audited by the IRS
and a police family's son burned down my house.

No wonder I got kick off this website on the night of the FISA bill vote in August

It is all just a coincidence.

Sorry just a rant.




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