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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:38 AM
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How common are killer tornadoes in january like last night's in Tennessee?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:39 AM
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1. It's tornado season.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 08:42 AM by Maddy McCall
Not unusual for the South.

Edit to add: This one was so bad because people were sleeping when the tornadoes hit, and they had little warning.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:47 AM
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5. If I recall from when I lived in SW Oklahoma, peak tornado season
is early March through early May. So, we're just a couple weeks early.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:48 AM
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6. The peak season in the South is February and March.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:56 AM
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10. Yeah...
The worst tornado we ever had in South Mississippi was in early January, 1975. An F4 tornado-- killed 10 in two counties, injured 200+.

The media are saying that the tornadoes that struck last night/ early morning were F3s to F4s.
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:52 AM
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9. Geez, they're marking houses in Lawrence County, AL the same way they were in Katrina.
Showing video on local television. It is so sad.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:08 AM
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14. How are you doing?
Are y'all ok?
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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:11 AM
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15. Fine here at the Dawg house. No damage and it appears that the funnel
that touched down nearby didn't do much at all. I haven't been out, but haven't heard any more about it other than it was there.

Things looking any better out your way?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:17 AM
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18. We had nothing...good bit of wind, hardly any rain.
Glad to hear that y'all are in good shape.

We were lucky here, for sure.

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Dawggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:26 PM
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33. As many of us were.
Thank god I had a gun to keep the evil away. (sorry, I just left a thread with a lot of silly posts).

I am so happy that the storms missed you.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:22 AM
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19. That's awful
:cry:
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:42 AM
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2. Also, it's February.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:45 AM
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3. Not very common....
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 08:46 AM by Aviation Pro
...but they can happen. Basically what you have is a weather pattern that is similar to a typical Spring clashing of airmasses. In this case a deep low in the Northeast and the converging outflow boundary from another low to the west of Tennessee caused some enormous twisting in the squall line ahead of the cold front to the north. This twisting atmosphere, the confluence of three airmasses in a mid-latitude cyclonic storm and orographic lifting in Tennessee's rugged terrain triggers the tornadic activity. Here's the surface analysis chart which shows these features:



On edit: the pertubations, the bowing in the north-south cold front, takes on the same characteristics of a dryline, which is much more common to tornadic activity.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:49 AM
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7. I disagree, they seem to hit during January & February around here.
You may be right statistically but I recall many severe weather days like this in the winter.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:58 AM
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11. Here, too.
Worse we ever had in this area was in January.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:59 AM
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12. From the climatology (meteorological history)....
....perspective they are uncommon, however that is changing because of climate change and global warming.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:02 AM
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13. La Nina could be having an effect as well this year.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:29 AM
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23. La Nina has pretty much abated from last year....
....Currently the sea-surface temperatures are within norms for this time of year:

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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:34 AM
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24. That is a drastically different view from the CPC
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 09:35 AM by RL3AO
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/lanina/enso_evolution-status-fcsts-web.pdf

They have said: "Strong La Nina conditions are now present across tropical Pacific Ocean".

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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:51 AM
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25. I pulled this graphic from the CPC....
...and spoke to one of the Center's analysts. He said that La Nina is not showing off the South American coast (but the SSTs are high for the New Guinea area).
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:45 AM
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4. Very common for the south.
I am always "on edge" this time of year. In the summertime we usually just get big thunderstorms with no rotation. In winter we get bad weather.
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:52 AM
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8. I can not talk about Tennessee
But here in SE Wisconsin we had a tornado do significant damage in early January.

And it also hit close to lake michigan which is supposed to be not possible.

So who knows, this is shaping up to be a strange year in any number of ways.:7
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:11 AM
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16. April, 1974....
I'll never forget that day, I was living in Carbondale, Illinois at the time. Several dozen tornadoes touched down across the Midwest that day leaving a lot of destruction. IRC, it was the worst one-day tornado outbreak in recorded history.

Sadly, it appears several of last night's twisters hit populated areas and I hope for the best for the survivors.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:16 AM
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17. 148 tornadoes. 24 F4s, 6 F5s in one night.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 AM
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20. Thank You
I think one of those F-4s or 5's stayed on the ground for a hundred miles. I've been upclose and personal to a couple tornados in my life, but one of those monsters scare the crap out of me.

Cheers...
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:25 AM
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22. Maybe you can find it.
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:58 PM
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37. I was in the tornado that went through Huntsville
I don't think I've ever been so scared in my life. 5 of us in the bathtub, all high as a kite. We had a dog with us. The walls shook and the pictures fell off the walls. We were OK, obviously, since I lived to post about it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:53 PM
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39. Number 46 hit Cherokee Park in Louisville, and a lot of
old trees got destroyed.
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:27 PM
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34. Ha!!! My birth month/year....
No wonder I'm fascinated with tornado footage and documentories.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 AM
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21. 47 deaths now.
That passes the Oklahoma City Outbreak on May 3, 1999 and makes it the deadliest single outbreak since 1985.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:00 AM
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26. 48 confirmed.
More expected.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:30 AM
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27. Is it possible that Tennessee's killer tornadoes were the
result of God's wrath against them for voting for hukabee?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:32 AM
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28. Some voted Obama. Some voted Clinton...
Indeed, MORE voted Democratic than Republican.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:14 AM
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30. Yes but the rain falls on the just as well as on the unjust
and if the late unlamented Jerry Falwell could blame Liberals for both 911 and Katrina, I certainly can blame fundies voting for someone who is manifestly unchristian as the huckster
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 01:46 PM
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36. No. People who think their petty little things like voting yesterday would immediately
cause a tornado to happen are really grasping. Votes that put people into power that cause environmental destruction ARE responsible for the destruction that eventually happens, but punishment for a vote right then? pshaw and foolish.
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left is right Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 06:52 AM
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40. It was a joke or meant to be one
I was playing on one of the repukes favorite memes: God punishes innocents for the actions of the evil liberal.
It goes without saying, our freaky weather of the last decade is the results of global climate changes that is greatly aggravated by human activity. That and the related issue of the dwindling supply of fresh clean water is the single most important issue facing our world today. If we don't come to grips with it and fast many, many people are going to suffer and die. Plagues, famine, riots will follow and then only God himself will be able to protect us that is unless he is punishing innocents for the actions of us evil liberal
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 10:36 AM
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29. one of the worst tornadoes to hit the south was in Feb 1884 --The "Enigma" Tornadoes
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:16 AM
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31. January tornadoes in February are extremely rare.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 11:37 AM
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32. But they are about 3.57% more likely during a leap year
:dunce:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 12:42 PM
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35. Good point.
:P :D
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 02:38 PM
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38. You need to flip the calendar to the next page
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