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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:14 PM
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WAIT! I thought We didn't torture! I guess our troops can be tortured too then?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/White_House_defends_interrogation_m_02062008.html

White House Defends Technique Known As Waterboarding; Senate Democrats Demand Probe

JENNIFER LOVEN
AP News

Feb 06, 2008 16:37 EST

The White House on Wednesday defended the use of the interrogation technique known as waterboarding, saying it is legal — not torture as critics argue — and has saved American lives. President Bush could authorize waterboarding for future terrorism suspects if certain criteria are met, a spokesman said.



A day earlier, the Bush administration acknowledged publicly for the first time that the tactic was used by U.S. government questioners on three terror suspects. Testifying before Congress, CIA Director Michael Hayden said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubayda and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri were waterboarded in 2002 and 2003.

Waterboarding involves strapping a suspect down and pouring water over his cloth-covered face to create the sensation of drowning. It has been traced back hundreds of years, to the Spanish Inquisition, and is condemned by nations around the world.

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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:17 PM
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1. we just admitted that we torture. why has the Pres not been taken into custody?
did we just not pay attention because of super tuesday, britney spears......
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:23 PM
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3. Bush and Cheney should be on their way to the Hague
about now
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:20 PM
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2. k,r, and ARREST!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:26 PM
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4. torturing our troops is fine now
the repukes are good with it \



and so are a number of "democrats"
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:30 PM
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5. And can't you just hear the mock outrage coming from the mouths
of those who support America torturing people?

The same people in DC defending/enabling/turning a blind eye to torture now will be all over the TV talking about how outraged they are and how horrible it is....

Like they give a fuck



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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:32 PM
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6. A test for whether or not waterboarding is torture -
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 05:39 PM by vmaus
First test - If an interrogation technique simulates drowning, it is not torture.

Second test - If being subjected to waterboarding causes long lasting psychological and emotional trauma and damage, it is not torture.

Third - If the process of being waterboarded can result in the death or execution of the subject, it is not torture.

Forth - If international law classifies waterboarding as torture, it is not torture.

Fifth - If the People of the United States do not impeach and prosecute it's elected leaders and representatives who allow and condone the use of waterboarding as an accepted method of interrogation of prisoners, then it is not torture.

Sixth - If our soldiers are captured and tortured, then that is torture and those monsters should be hunted down and brought to justice.

Are we clear on the definition of waterboarding, now?

Did you pass the test? What was that answer? That's not what I wanted to hear... let's try that again.

Rinse and repeat as necessary for desired results.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:04 PM
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12. Right.
How would we feel about Americans getting waterboarded while in captivity?

One problem with the word "waterboarding" is that the name sounds like an extreme sport.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:40 PM
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7. His confession was not a result of waterboarding
Therefore, it should stand up well at his war-crimes trial.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:42 PM
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8. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!


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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:52 PM
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9. Our Refusal to abide by the Genva Convention could be construed to deny our troops it's protection.
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CRK7376 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:17 PM
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10. Thanks Shrub....
Next time I go into combat, I'll have that little nugget of information floating around knowing that if me or anyof my team mates are captured we could be waterboarded. Hey it's not torture and we do it in the USA...Thanks a lot Shrub. Why don't you go in my place next time out....?
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:08 PM
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11. K & R
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