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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:55 PM
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Why are the liberal radio hosts killing their own
I know many were for Kucinich and Edwards and now that they are out of the race we are told to fight for the Dems .

When all of this began a year ago ALL the liberal host said every Dem candidate would be a great choice , we need to stick together and get a Dem in .

Lately all I hear is a steam of bashing Hillary that has spread almost all the way across the liberal hosts .

so if we still want a Dem then why bash a Dem . Oh I know many feel Hillary is not a liberal and I can't say any of the other candidates other than Kucinich is . This is not to say Hillary is a liberal , alot of the bashing is directed at Bill Clinton .

This does split the Dem party in almost half .

Anyone have any input without beginning a firing circle ?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 05:57 PM
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1. I have find myself with great disgust for the "left"
Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller, Mike Malloy, Randi Rhodes, Rachel Maddow, Kos, Huffington Post, and TPM
have the knives out for HRC and their heads up Obama's ass. :puke:
They are the left wing version of Rush.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:05 PM
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7. If you call Ed Schultz "the left" you need some quick remediation in basic politics
The actual left-wing hosts have some legitimate gripes with Hillary. Calling them "the left-wing version of Rush" betrays a stunning level of ignorance (or spin) on your part.


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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:05 PM
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8. i saw this on the Huffington..>>Link>>
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:52 PM
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16.  I you don't mind , what do you think about this artical ?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:00 PM
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2. "liberal radio hosts"
Could you be more specific cause I listen to a lot of radio and haven't heard anything close to what you are describing.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:08 PM
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12.  Mainly these hosts
Ed Schultz, Stephanie Miller and Randi , Hartmann seems to stay neutral but does at times express some things . I have listened to Malloy the most , he has always expressed his dislike for the Clintons so this is nothing new . I listen to Malloy most since he is reactionary and explodes and does admit when he is wrong .

I do realize radio is a business however .
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:05 PM
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17. I don't get Ed Schultz anymore, thank God.
However, Stephanie Miller does push Obama a lot but I have to disagree with you about Randi. I find her pretty neutral on the air although I'm almost certain she's behind Edwards only because that's how she thinks. Hartmann has out and out said he was for Edwards and when Edwards dropped out, but now he's trying to be positive about both Clinton and Obama. Now Malloy speaks for me when he exposes the Clintons as the centrist, corporatists that they are. But I don't consider that firing on them, just telling the truth. I guess it's all in the ear of the listener.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:19 PM
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18.  I agree with what you've said , just one thing to add
I do appreciate Malloy's honesty . I never really listend to Ed , never liked him , it was when my wife who listened to ED got pissed because Ed went off on Hillary .

Randi , well she started in raving about Obama then backed off a few days later .

Personally I would prefer if the hosts left their choices out of it . I would prefer they give the facts , good or bad as they find them and stay with that . Most give sites where they got their reference .

Personally I would not tell anyone who I voted for since it is really private other wise they would not have booths .

I don't let radio host or blogs influence me on who to vote for however if there is info given that may alter my position and it is reliable then I will look at it . You really have to dig for real facts and then question these too . Of course this is nothing new , it's always been the way of politics .
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:00 PM
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3. HRC hasn't won the nomination, and they think Obama has a better chance of winning the GE
Just my guess...
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:05 PM
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10. The fact that they happen to be right helps a lot here.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:01 PM
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4. where do you hear 'all the liberal radio hosts'?
I use local radio (virtually non-existent) and the 'net...I never have to worry about listening to more than one at a time. Our candidates better be tough...one of these days the RW talk-police are going to be able to set their sights solely on our candidate...if you think the crap Kerry faced was bad, you might want to set this one out. Hell, all the righties are merely tuning up on McPain...they are just practicing the HATE so they will be warmed up and ready this Fall.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:02 PM
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5. My guess
is that the radio hosts you are talking about didn't go into that field to appease the masses and tell them what they want to hear. They probably went in because they want to influence people, and get them to think in deeper more meaningful terms than "we must stick together."

So that, I suppose, would possibly be their motivation. To push their listeners away from someone they feel is going to further damage the country/the world.

But why the change? A year ago, perhaps they didn't realize the extent to which the dems would roll over and be complicit it they got control of Congress. Perhaps they thought the dems would force an end to the occupation. And perhaps now they realize that the war was not, in fact, 2 years in the making before it officially started, but rather was 10 years in the making or more. Looking at the Clintons' involvement in those decisions - combined with recognizing that congress is doing nothing at all to stop the occupation - unless you call funding it "stopping it" has likely made them realize they need to stop making excuses.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:03 PM
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6. I listen to Randi fairly frequently, and I haven't heard her bashing HRC. She
seems (to me) to be treating them both equally.

But you're right - Dems shouldn't diss Dems (just like we don't here on DU! :7)
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:05 PM
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9. WTF is this? My Party right or wrong?
might as well be a fuckin' republican!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:07 PM
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11. Welcome to the heart of the Clinton campaign
Well, the Clinton corollary to "my party right or wrong" is "and we determine what The Party is".

Guess what -- it doesn't include you or me.

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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:15 PM
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13. This is not my father's Democratic Party...
and he's probably checking it out (in some unknown ethereal sense) and saying: "Son, it's not your Democratic Party, either."
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:27 PM
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15.  No , it's not my Dem party anymore either , hasn't been for
a long long time . I don't know if we even have two parties anylonger .

I am not influenced by the talk shows , I know what I am looking at . I've been around a long time ,well before talk radio came to life .

My concern is what the people who are much younger hear and then become confused by it all through mixed messages .

I don't know what the numbers are that even listen to talk radio , it may be so small it does not matter . I fear most of the population gets their view off the TV which is much worse . There is the internet as long as it is a reliable source not where anyone can offer anything and be convincing , like any blog where we well know anything can be said without proof at all .

Perhaps I should have refered it as progressive radio instead of liberal radio , there is a difference .
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:17 PM
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14.  No that's not it at all .
No one has forced me to listen to the radio . It's not me who set the frame work of radio talk shows .

I am of the mindset that it does not help to bash your own , I do realize that Hillary is not a liberal . as i said I only felt Kucinich was a liberal .

I have to listen mostly on the internet because we have one station here and it is clear channel that changes hosts like underware . I have XM but this has been pared down alot in the last year .
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