Destruction of the GOP Imminent: McCain will be a rejected nominee

[sampsonblk]

Imagine this: according to current math, its almost impossible for McCain not to win the nomination. But that's due to the conservative vote being split early in the process. Now, it appears that the conservatives, the base of the GOP, are lining up behind Mike Huckabee.

But McCain's still going to win their nomination.

Imagine Huckabee winning the vast majority of the upcoming GOP primaries. Imagine McCain arriving at their convention as a nominee who is consistently getting drubbed in primary after primary by a bible-thumping baptist preacher from Arkansas.

What kind of GE campaign could McCain possibly wage, when it would be so evident that his own party didn't want him?


At this point, I'd bet money on this scenario. And if it happens I am going to enjoy every minute of it.

[NastyRiffraff]

1. Proof: The Republican primary results in WA

McCain 26%
Huckabee 24%
Paul 21%

Other 30%

[sampsonblk]

7. Yep, shocking numbers

Who ever heard of Ron Paul getting 21% ???

Pretty clear rebuke of McCain, in my opinion.

[liberalla]

11. That percentage for Ron Paul IS astounding, however

back to McCain--I can't help but wish he had gotten the nomination in 2000. I think we (and the whole world) would be in a better place if W hadn't cut him off in SC and gone on to steal the election.

[sheelz]

9. thanks

i needed to hear that message again.

[bluestateguy]

2. It's their own fault for having so many open primaries

In contest after contest, Independents put McCain over the top, producing a nominee that the party true-believers did not want.

[Mojambo]

3. This would seem to be neutralized if he taps Huckabee at VP

I personally don't see that happening, but it would change the dynamic considerably.

[sampsonblk]

8. He may be forced into that if Huckabee keeps winning.

If Huckabee is the one with the momentum at convention time, I don't see how McCain could choose anyone else.

[The Stranger]

15. I would contend that McCain already has a deal with Huckabee to be VP on the ticket.

In interview after interview after interview, Huckabee talks about how much he wants to make love to McCain and how well they get along and really, really like one another.

Huckabee gives McCain the South and the Christofascists -- they are a match made in Hell.

[sampsonblk]

18. Makes sense, but knowing McCain I doubt it

The RW wacko element is looking to use Huckabee as a means of preventing McCain from being at the top of the ticket. Adding Huckabee as VP won't please those people. They won't vote for McCain unless they feel forced to. And even then, many will stay home.

[margotb822]

4. Not to mention the fact that he is crazy

I think that his time as a POW has negatively impacted his ability to make rational decisions. I know it may be taboo for BO and HRC to discuss, but I think it is a rational point for the electorate to consider.

[XemaSab]

5. My friend's dad is a Marine who volunteered for 'Nam

and he says the same thing.

If someone was in a POW camp for 5 years, either they're really strong or there's got to be SOMETHING damaged in there. :(

[margotb822]

6. I don't want to

disparage his time in the military, but we need to look at the impact. That shouldn't be an off-limits topic. I definitely think we are on the same page, and I'm glad to see that other military members are, too.

[rocktivity]

26. I, too, have noticed McCain's Bush-like inappropriate reactions

and his Reagan-like doddering--talk about about worst of both worlds.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Perry Logan]

10. It hurts to see them suffer so much. And after they've been so nice.

[malaise]

12. Their split is beyond

delicious to me. I'm loving it.

[KharmaTrain]

13. The Real Boooosh Legacy

I'm thinking the GOOP Convention is gonna be one rockin' party...lots of restless natives. This inept and corrupt party is splintering along its special interests and McCain is the one candidate that pisses off almost every one of those interests. While we hear the bravado of how they'll "unite" to beat Hillary, that's more whistling past the graveyard.

I suspect McCain will run a very "small" campaign...doing town halls in friendly places in front of controlled crowds and use boogie men or women and fear as the way to keep the party together. While November is a long way away, the rifts going on now are deep and I suspect will show again at the convention. McCain already is showing the strains of this process and I see him losing what energy he has left in trying to not only go up against a strong Democratic ticket and "surge" this year but the on-going sniping from his rear.

Here's the key...a 5% or 10% drop in GOOP turn out will determine the election...especially if its in states like Ohio, Florida, Colorado and Arizona. Those unfilled church busses and lack luster local party efforts will come home to roost...and that's McCain's biggest problem.

[CanonRay]

14. Be careful what you wish for...

Although I agree it's an interesting scenario. Yesterday's results clearly repudiated McCain as the Repug nominee. It's a big fat middle finger pointed right at him.

[L. Coyote]

16. McCain needs 40% from here on out, roughly. With winner take all

it is more complicated, of course, but it is still possible that even with only two candidates, McCain may not get the votes he needs to lock the convention.

It looks like Cheney still has a good shot! :rofl:

[sampsonblk]

17. It will take a miracle for McCain to lose

I hope McCain hangs on and wins. That's the best scenario for us, I think.

[undeterred]

19. Can't we just give them Hillary?

And we'll keep Obama as the Democratic Nominee. That way they'll both get to run for president. Hillary might still get the White House, but as a Republican. :evilgrin:

[onethatcares]

20. so, this is what we do.

we get out there and tell everyone that McCain is Pro Choice, and Pro War, and Pro Amnesty, Pro Gun Control and everyother freeway blog we can beat these guys handily.

[sampsonblk]

22. Zactly. Unfortunately, we are doing the opposite at the moment

Clinton and Obama are out on the stump today trying to convince voters that McCain is a conservative.

[rocktivity]

25. DING DING DING! Onethatcares, you're our grand prize winner!

(W)e get out there and tell everyone that McCain is Pro Choice, and Pro War, and Pro Amnesty, Pro Gun Control...

Well, why not? If people don't vote for fake Republicans when they can vote for real ones, maybe they won't vote for fake liberals, either!

:bounce:
rocknation

[rocktivity]

21. But though McCain's party leadership may not want him, his party's VOTERS do.

What fascinates me about all this is the GOP leadership's lack of interest in what the vote totals are telling them. They seem to be more interested in staying in control than picking the best candidate. Do they believe that they cannot control McCain?

:headbang:
rocknation

[sampsonblk]

23. I think you got it backwards

The GOP leadership is in line behind McCain.

Its the voters who are rejecting the guy. He was winning early primaries by default. Now that Romeny and Giuliani are out, GOP voters are looking for anyone else besides McCain. Even Ron Paul got 21% in one vote last night.

The party leadership is trying to get Huckabee to get out.

[rocktivity]

24. Well, I knew SOMETHING about all this was backwards!

That's what I get for accepting the situation at face value--I should know better to do that when Republicans are involved!

:headbang:
rocknation

[sampsonblk]

27. The whole thing is screwy. I love it!

[Fire Walk With Me]

28. The corporatists who want to control the nation wish to do so through one of two means:

1. A puppet who supports endless wartime economy.
2. A puppet who supports endless wartime economy as well as bringing in the ultrachristian vote.

I believe that ultimately, they wish for the latter as the ultrachristians (who don't take the "love" and "peace" parts of the Bible seriously, or are somehow not conscious of them) are easy to manipulate into believing whatever story line the corporatists wish to feed them. They CAN create a corporate theocracy.

A predictable, unquestioning populace is the easiest to control. Those who can think can be subdued through fear and threat. Apathy is good for others, and it is created through creating the perception that nothing can be done to change what is happening.

I really think that they are aware that they CAN take it all, because who is going to stop them? Truly? This is a war of perception.