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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 08:48 PM
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Bush Orders Clampdown on Flights to US
Bush Orders Clampdown on Flights to US
by Ian Traynor


The US administration is pressing the 27 governments of the European Union to sign up for a range of new security measures for transatlantic travel, including allowing armed guards on all flights from Europe to America by US airlines.0211 05

The demand to put armed air marshals on to the flights is part of a travel clampdown by the Bush administration that officials in Brussels described as “blackmail” and “troublesome”, and could see west Europeans and Britons required to have US visas if their governments balk at Washington’s requirements.

According to a US document being circulated for signature in European capitals, EU states would also need to supply personal data on all air passengers overflying but not landing in the US in order to gain or retain visa-free travel to America, senior EU officials said.

And within months the US department of homeland security is to impose a new permit system for Europeans flying to the US, compelling all travellers to apply online for permission to enter the country before booking or buying a ticket, a procedure that will take several days.

The data from the US’s new electronic transport authorisation system is to be combined with extensive personal passenger details already being provided by EU countries to the US for the “profiling” of potential terrorists and assessment of other security risks.

Washington is also asking European airlines to provide personal data on non-travellers - for example family members - who are allowed beyond departure barriers to help elderly, young or ill passengers to board aircraft flying to America, a demand the airlines reject as “absurd”.

more...

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/02/11/6989/
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:00 PM
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1. I would say that international travel is going to get quite cumbersome for American in the future.
You are going to need a passport, I think by June, to even travel to mexico, Caribbeans, bahamas, and all of the other numerous countries that surround us.

Not feeling so free now a days.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:33 AM
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20. Passports are already required for Mexico... nt
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:06 PM
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2. Dense as a black hole, that boy...
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:07 PM
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3. Between this, the passports to Canada and the electronic fence around Mexico...
Do you get the idea we're being "locked in"?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:10 PM
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4. I just hope this disaster of a prez is long gone before any more of his
brilliant 'ideas' get implemented. :scared:
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 09:16 PM
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5. Thank goodness time flies the older one gets -- or so they say? eom
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:29 AM
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10. Yes. And the directives were all so much more evocative in the original German.
x(

Hekate

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:30 AM
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11. self delete-- very buggy DU today
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 02:31 AM by Hekate
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:31 AM
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6. Peaceful tourism -the fastest way of allowing all the little people to make a
little money - and it's not possible in this baron/corporation/politicsl/reverend/media world delivered to us by Republicans and some Democrats and their partners in other countries.

Blessed be the children for they shall interit ....what?
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:36 AM
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7. I'm glad there's only eleven more months of this idiot's regime.






I hope I can make it. It's been a long seven years.




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Old_Growth Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:24 AM
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8. Going from a police state
to a police world.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 01:40 AM
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9. I remember when Europeans were rolling their eyes at us for objecting
to the new security measures a few years back, saying things like, "The REST of the world has been dealing with terrorism for years, we all expect this kind of tight security. Welcome to reality, you sheltered shits." (Okay, maybe they didn't use those exact words, but that's how I heard it. :D)

Guess they didn't truly appreciate what those initial steps were paving the way for. That's okay. Neither did/do many Americans. :(
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 02:49 AM
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12. The White House is MAD . . . INSANE . . .
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 02:49 AM by defendandprotect
Expect much more insanity and more fires as we near the 2008 elections ---

and don't expect anything but a steal when we get there ---

and perhaps even more than that !!!

Remember Nixon's HUSTON PLAN to cancel the 1972 election ---





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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:05 AM
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13. WTF? Aren't we isolated enough here?
The King is Mad, and the nation barrels headlong into the abyss...
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:10 AM
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14. Those Frenchies might be trying to smuggle some Universal Health Care in here...
Can't have that!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 04:22 AM
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15. What is this going to do to the economy? International conferences
fill a lot of restaurants and hotels, not to mention the huge convention center, shops, etc. It is a huge business.

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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 09:28 AM
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16. Is this sposed to make us more safer f rom terrah?
It definitely hurts those areas that need
foreign travel, business, and tourism.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:46 AM
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17. The greater threat is from uninspected cargo entering our ports.
But it is bad for business to clamp down on this. So instead we violate everyone's civil rights.

:eyes:
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:32 AM
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19. And BushCo wanted to turn over control of our ports to Dubai.




But of course that was different.

There was lots of money to be made there.

:sarcasm:




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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:23 AM
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18. this surprises me
I'd have thought that Disney(R) Corp(TM) wouldn't allow such a thing. This will affect attendance at Disney(R) World(TM) and Disney(R) Land(TM).

I wonder what they're getting in exchange.
:hide:
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