plantwomyn
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:39 PM
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Where is the filibuster we were promised? |
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Where is Dodd? They just passed cloture. Where are all our Senators who promised not to let immunity pass. Look up your Senator folks. How did they vote? Why? Call them and ask. Do it now. Hell it might be already too late.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:42 PM
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1. Hillary - AWOL - Campaigning in Texas n/t |
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 12:42 PM by kirby
Obama and even McCain had the decency to vote on this important issue.
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:16 PM
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5. They lost by 36 votes. 35 is she had been there. They didn't have a chance on this one. |
plantwomyn
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:21 PM
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7. Are you making an attempt to interject common sense into DU? |
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:24 PM
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10. Well...every now and again I TRY. |
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Tue Feb-12-08 02:51 PM
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17. I don't care what the vote count was |
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There is a time to take a stand and this was it. She should have been there. This is our constitution on the line.
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plantwomyn
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Tue Feb-12-08 03:54 PM
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21. So what did your Senators say when you called them today. |
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As you say "There is a time to take a stand and this was it. This is our constitution on the line."
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Tue Feb-12-08 04:23 PM
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23. I emailed both of them |
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Martinez is a lost cause and Bill Nelson is not far behind. I used the word shame a dozen times in my tomes. I am having an excacerbation of my MS today and stuck in bed and I cried when the vote was finished. I know I am emotional because I am ill but I cannot believe that the vote went this way. Are they in some kind of bubble up there? What is their motivation to do this? It makes no sense. Everyone of our Dems should have stood up against this travesty. I can't tell you enough how disappointed I am in them. Bless Sen Dodd and Feingold for doing the right thing.
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Tue Feb-12-08 03:48 PM
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Its a matter of being on the record. She is running for the President - she should try and vote on everything that is critical.
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plantwomyn
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:18 PM
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What do you think the Dem whip does around the Senate? They knew they were going to loss the fucking vote B4 it happened. Subterfuge.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:43 PM
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2. The filibuster got taken off the table last week in that agreement |
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:27 PM
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11. Yep. Reid set it all up to fail, in his deal with Mitch "Grandma" McConnell. |
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The outcome does not surprise me one bit. Reid needs to be replaced!!!
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:30 PM
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12. I like Reid a lot on a personal level, but he's just not performing |
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Tue Feb-12-08 03:57 PM
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22. DLC strategy vs Republic strategy. |
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Republic
Strategy: give leadership roles to Senators and Congresscritters from safe states/districts so they can aggressively push our agenda.
Goal: advance our agenda.
DLC
Strategy: give leadership roles to Senators and Congresscritters from endangered states/districts so people in those locations will be more likely to vote Democrat.
Goal: get elected. We have no agenda, we just want all that fame, power and money. Chicks dig Senators.
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:40 PM
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13. Cheney's speech in January must of persuaded them |
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plus the money they got from the telecoms. Disgusting but predictable.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:45 PM
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3. That vote was the kiss of death for this nation. |
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Mark my words, historians will note that vote as the end of Democracy in America.
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:21 PM
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8. Nahhh... December 12th, 2000 was the end. (NT) |
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:23 PM
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9. historians will have alot of dates regarding the end of Democracy |
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now is it pitchforks and torches time, they continue to use us as doormats, this has got to stop.
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Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 PM
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4. A fillibuster would actually work to stop bad legislation. The opposition |
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to the bill is choreographed so as to appear significant but it will always fail in the end, as set forth by movers and shakers behind the scenes. This is a typical pattern where one or a few congressmen become the holder of the flame against the machine...but in the end the vote inevitably goes the way it's supposed to. We've seen this on DSM, election fraud, torture, etc.. Different congressman each time, usually. His turn, I guess, to look good to the base.
These things aren't chance. Dems could stop this if they wanted. Dodd could have stopped it. Filibuster would work, so they hamstrung it beforehand with a "deal"
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:43 PM
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14. Here - Cloture vote passed by 69 votes. What the f* did the Dems who voted AYE think? |
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Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 01:46 PM by Mass
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00019Democrats votin AYE Grouped By Vote Position Baucus (D-MT) democrats voting AYES Bayh (D-IN) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Conrad (D-ND) Feinstein (D-CA) Inouye (D-HI) Johnson (D-SD) Kohl (D-WI) Landrieu (D-LA) Lieberman (ID-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) McCaskill (D-MO) Mikulski (D-MD) Nelson (D-FL) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Rockefeller (D-WV) Salazar (D-CO) Webb (D-VA) Whitehouse (D-RI)
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:44 PM
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15. they are the "democrats" |
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why would you trust them?
2000 was a coup.
we've been sold down the river.
SHORT OF REVOLUTION this will never be our country again.
Now shut up and get back to work before we fire your ass and hire someone more desperate than you.
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Tue Feb-12-08 01:52 PM
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16. With our constitution. Anyone seen it? It was here somewhere |
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Tue Feb-12-08 03:44 PM
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18. Gives a whole new meaning to the verizon commercials, "can you hear me now?" nt |
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Tue Feb-12-08 03:53 PM
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But filibustering, now that's hard work.
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